Cheating at NorthWestern

<p>We all Know at elite institutions cheating will put you in alot of trouble, most of the time, expullsion!</p>

<p>But the way NorthWestern detects cheating is unique</p>

<p>As quoted from one student</p>

<p>“Northwestern has a system that scans every single academic paper and tests it for violations of the honor code. Turn in a paragraph of an old paper in a new paper and you can get put on academic probation. Don’t try to cheat here. It won’t work!”</p>

<p>*Amazing huh? If some of my classmates were to ever attend NorthWestern, a lot of them would’ve been kicked out in the blink of an eye because they’re prosperity through school revolves around cheating. SMH</p>

<p>A Little Advice::* If you’re smart enough to get into NorthWestern or any elite institution for that matter, then you’re smart enough to thrive without cheating.</p>

<p>Um…every top school has a program that does that.</p>

<p>Even high schools have access to that technology.</p>

<p>Um, that’s not too surprising. My school does that for every essay we write – in fact, we have to submit them to turnitin.com, which then checks for plagiarism.</p>

<p>wait…to the first post…even if you are the original author you can’t use your own previous writings for a new topic?? seems kind of stupid if that’s the case…</p>

<p>yeah turnitin.com does that.</p>

<p>First, the school is named “Northwestern” not “NorthWestern”. Second, that bit of information is just not true. There is NO system that “scans every single academic paper.” That is, most professors don’t bother to get papers scanned and such; it’s just not worth their time. And yes, cheating is ALWAYS bad.</p>

<p>^ not true…</p>

<p>They create an account at Turnitin, which is usually funded by the school so the teacher doesn’t lose money, and the students upload to that site. It builds up a report that lists every paper turned in and the %age that was copied.</p>

<p>turnitin.com is pretty interesting. Our teacher showed us an example of the report it produces. According to turnitin, legitimate papers can be 50%+ plagiarized because the field it searches through is so big.</p>

<p>“not true…”</p>

<p>-Not true? I suppose your knowledge of how Northwestern works led you to make this conclusion? I’m not saying that theses systems don’t exist; I’m saying that, as a student of the university, I know for a fact that every paper is not scanned by any such system. Neither I, nor anyone else I know, has EVER submitted ANYTHING to turnitin or any similar places. I’m not saying that it’s impossible that SOME profs do this, but, from what I’ve experienced, the majority does not. It’s just not worth their time. </p>

<p>If, however, you have knowledge of how Northwestern classes function and can speak to a situation that is counter to what I’m saying, then please feel free to do so. And, yet again, cheating is ALWAYS a bad idea - no matter where you are.</p>

<p>I think the discord is not about whether or not Northwestern utilizes this technology but rather to what extent.</p>

<p>I’m sure there are professors who run every paper through, but there are probably more who only check certain papers that seem a little too good.</p>

<p>“I think the discord is not about whether or not Northwestern utilizes this technology but rather to what extent.”</p>

<p>“I’m sure there are professors who run every paper through”</p>

<p>-This is quite possible.</p>

<p>“but there are probably more who only check certain papers that seem a little too good.”</p>

<p>-I don’t even know that this happens at a large scale either. For one, TAs do a lot of the grading of papers and tend to be pretty lazy where extra work is concerned - if they see a good paper, they usually just give a good grade and move on; very rarely is any in-depth analysis of sources and such conducted.</p>

<p>All I’m saying is that the OP is simply incorrect when he says that their is a system “that scans every single academic paper and tests it for violations of the honor code.” This is simply not true.</p>

<p>I’m not even going to argue^ Kk goes to NorthWestern whereas i don’t</p>

<p>“That is, most professors don’t bother to get papers scanned and such; it’s just not worth their time.” </p>

<p>Just saying that it’s pretty simple for a teacher to screen everyone.</p>

<p>^If the papers are turned in digitally to the website. Hard copies would be more labor intensive.</p>

<p>Even my HS does this. It’s not a big deal really.</p>

<p>“That is, most professors don’t bother to get papers scanned and such; it’s just not worth their time”</p>

<p>Thats why they have the scanning to make thing seasier aqnd faster rather than taking in a few words and seeing if it matches any link on the web</p>

<p>So Authentic, once again, it’s Northwestern, not NorthWestern. Thanks in advance for spelling it correctly.</p>

<p>The same people who cheated in high school will be cheating in college. And then they will go to work and cheat there, on their spouses, on their taxes and in business.</p>

<p>Most often, they are scofflaws. Often, they are the life of the party and socialites. I can pick them out in my own neighborhood. And they scorn and scowl at people who follow the rules and insist that others do the same.</p>

<p>They are often wealthy, attractive, have nice cars and homes.</p>

<p>They may even rise to the top of the ladder.</p>

<p>But they are still scum.</p>

<p>Academic papers are technically intellectual property of the author. Using a system that profits off of others intellectual property is stealing/copyright infringement. Unless you pay me to scan my paper into the database, you can’t have it (unless you threaten me with a lower grade…lol, but that’s basically extortion).</p>

<p>^ This may be incorrect, but doesn’t it become property of the school?
They can’t say that someone else wrote it, but don’t they have rights to it?</p>

<p>And they can certainly scan it legally. They’re not “using” it.</p>