<p>My little brother was caught cheating at a high school summer class on a UC campus?
He regrets it and I made him write a letter of apology to the dean and his professor.</p>
<p>He’s applying to college this year…how do you think this will affect his entrance into the UC system. I’m very scared for him. </p>
<p>More importantly will this affect his entrance into ivy leagues if he were to apply? Will they know about it?</p>
<p>Don’t know about UC. The question as to other schools is if it is in his high school record from where he is. If not he can decide whether he addresses it in his applications. I believe that Brown or some similar schools do have a question as to whether you have ever been suspended or had other disciplinary action at school. What would he answer to that? Sometimes overcoming and learning from something like this can be actually be a character builder rather than a flaw, and the whole picture can be taken into consideration. (those sappy stories re inner city kid who was in Juevie and went on to MIT really do happen.)
His college guidance counselor would be the one he should go to and ask about what is in his “folder” that will be difficult for him with applications. (He can ask open ended like that if he has concerns.)</p>
<p>Worried010 :</p>
<p>Donut forget that at Brown there is no curriculum and no grades …</p>
<p>why else do you think Emma Watson — she who played ‘Hermione’
in the Harry Potter movies — is enrolled there ??</p>
<p>Getting accused of ‘cheating’ at Brown is like getting a speeding ticket at the Indianapolis 500 …</p>
<p>Thanks BrownALumParent. </p>
<p>The thing is, the class was technically a college class so the UC school he went to knows about it. He’ll definitely address his disciplinary record but what I’m worried about is the UC school telling all the other schools about it in their own way before he gets a chance to explain himself. Is there such a thing as a “college record”. Will all the schools he applies to automatically know? Will all the UC schools outside of that one know? Will the ivies?</p>
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<p>You don’t know what you’re talking about. Getting accused of cheating once you’re at Brown is one thing – but being accused of cheating before you’ve even gotten in is another. Unless you can come up with a good way to convince adComs that you’ve “grown” since cheating, then that’s a big red flag on your application. And lying to hide it is even worse.</p>
<p>Thanks lapras. I just want to know what to be prepared for. So you’re saying they’ll know automatically. This was a class he took for leisure and to prepare himself for his last year of high school. He wasn’t even going to mention it on his college apps since he took it for just credit.</p>
<p>I didn’t realize it was an out of school class (skimmed quickly). Errrr, I’m not sure if they would find out…but I think if they did find out and your brother checked “No” to the disciplinary action section, that would be bad.</p>
<p>I’ve been caught up in grad school apps enough that I don’t remember the specifics of applying to Brown for ugrad, but aren’t students expected to send transcripts from anywhere they’ve taken classes for credit, high school or otherwise, to Brown? If so, the transcript for the summer course may include some denotation about cheating.</p>
<p>the question on the app usually asks if you have been suspended or on some sort of warning, so technically it would not be a lie to answer “no” if that is the case. Unless UC is making a record of it, they technically cannot disclose this info otherwise since college class records are usually protected as private info (although since he was in high school, and thus under 18, it may not apply).</p>
<p>My opinion would be to try and find out if there is any record of the incident that can/would be disclosed, if not, deny it ever happened. Pretty sure there’s no way he’s getting in with that. Plenty of applicants aren’t cheating (or certainly aren’t getting caught cheating) why should they accept one who does?</p>
<p>Lapras, please don’t feed the ■■■■■ (shannonentropy)</p>
<p>Being forthcoming – even if it’s not noted on transcripts – is probably the best policy. </p>
<p>Brown (and all college) is about taking responsibility for yourself, and a supplement to the application addressing this as a growth and learning experience would speak well towards the applicant’s maturity.</p>