<p>@jym626 BUT IT IS STILL A PRIVILEGE. For those who aren’t right handed, the have a different world experience than those who are. Now it’s not a huge part of privilege, but it still is. Even though there is no hierarchy of oppressions, there are varying degrees of privilege. As seemingly insignificant as being left handed, or as big as being gay in the Bible Belt. But again, you will never understand. So I’m done with you. I hope you get it one day though. </p>
<p>Everything that is a majority is not a privilege. Stretching this ridiculously thin. </p>
<p>Hey jym: are you getting IT…let’s take a survey…anyone getting IT?</p>
<p>Are the moral superiority lectures over for the night? </p>
<p>Iman has a line of makeup at Target for darker skin tones, but I cant find any that match my skin unless I go to the dept store and spend $60-$80 for a bottle of foundation!
Just cause Im white doesnt mean Im made of money!</p>
<p>Oh yes dietz, if the high schoolers try to browbeat us with their years of wisdom and superior intellectual insights, maybe soon we will see the error of our ways. Does this come with a free massage afterwards, as our backs will hurt from all the genuflecting.</p>
<p>Kiara, you are the opponents case come to life! This attitude is very hard to explain to people who are trying to make a rational argument in favor of the phrase. I actually think your contributions here have added a lot of insight to this thread. There are posters who were previously unfamiliar with this mentality. That was incredibly helpful. </p>
<p>@emeraldkity4 I love how you keep ignoring the fact that I have repeatedly said it is not only about race, but then when I do acknowledge other aspects of privilege, it’s looked upon as insignificant and silly. Ironic huh?</p>
<p>@jym626 I don’t mean to state the obvious, the people who were around during the Jim Crow days are probably right around your age… No surprise I’m not taking heed to your knowledge on what privilege really is. The thing is, part of being privileged is being conditioned to think that you aren’t privileged. It’s the younger generation that is saving society and I hate to say it, but the older and more discriminatory races are dying out. Why do you think the state of our nation has improved so greatly? Jym626, the mindset you have is LITERALLY dying out. So like I said, I’m not gonna waste more time talking to you.</p>
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<p>You do realize the poor minority with a deadbeat dad and a drug addict mom can still be privileged right? You really are just missing my point. Privilege does not have a single definition. It applies to everything. This concept really isn’t that hard to grasp if you take more than a second to separate the word from rich and white.</p>
<p>Jim Crow is being brought into this?/This thread has jumped the shark. </p>
<p>and otter, privilege is being stretched to try to mean so many things its becoming meaningless. </p>
<p>Some people’s kids…</p>
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<p>You have a big burden providing for my health care, social security and other age related needs…please get to work soon!</p>
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Ah, just one person, and a HS’er. So understandable that the things I think are trivial may be of huge importance to her. Okay, I won’t generalize on that one point though, while it does illustrate the overall fact that some are obsessed with trivia while ignoring the larger issues. And yes, you were robbed. I think everyone who uses those bandaids needs to pay a dividend to you, immediately.[\quote]</p>
<p>I am not a high schooler. I have a lot of good experience with dealing with privilege due to my lifecircumstances changing radically and going from the top of society to the trash heap for no other reason than other people’s ignorance.</p>
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<p>So is being straight and being white in the united states and a million other things. Please stop revelling in your ability to dismiss other people’s experiences because you are obsessed with your own superiority that you can’t fathom the thought some of it might be because society caters to a large number of your traits.</p>
<p>Is posting your personal insults as a quote sign of privilege? </p>
<p>@otters45 Preach!</p>
<p>Can I get an Amen! Hallelujah Amen!</p>
<p>Look i am not preaching. If you don’t care for my posts because i am not a long time poster go back and read cardinals posts because unlike some of you, my ideas didn’t fly over his head. I think the most interesting thing about this thread is how desperate people are to deny that society caters to certain traits because why? I am not really sure? Maybe it offends their ego? Everyone has privileges and disadvantages relative to other people. Its just that some are much more destructive then others. Like the skin tone bandaid thing is just an example people! They aren’t saying its a horrible travesty. Its just one little example. There are a million more.</p>
<p>Its true that majority often makes the rules, unless the minority come up with better ideas.
I as one of the younger baby boomers appreciate being part of the majority now that we are all aging.
Im not going to apologize for that.
I appreciate that I live in a part of the country that still has union jobs, (a few), that has legalized gay marriage and recreational marijuana use and where we are removing dams and looking to other sources of energy that dont destroy the earth.
Those things benefit everyone IMO, and I would encourage folk to get involved in their own communities to support the things they value.
You will get more satisfaction out of it than trying to change someones mind on the internets.</p>
<p>First of all, let’s all cool it down or the thread will get locked.</p>
<p>There are two distinctions that seem relevant to me here. One is the difference between a disadvantage based on injustice and a disadvantage based on plain old reality. Racism in its various forms - in hiring, in assigning criminal penalties, etc - is an example of the former. But things like the fact that black person will normally have majority white teachers, or that a lefty will often encounter tools designed for righties, or that people of many minority groups will have to explain cultural practices or facts that members of the dominant culture won’t understand, is simply a function of statistics. That doesn’t mean these things can’t factor into discussions of privilege - it is pretty nice to be around others who are already familiar with your culture – but it does mean that getting resentful over them is a losing proposition, and acting as if their existence suggests a problem in society is, in my opinion, wrongheaded. </p>
<p>The second distinction is the one between the fact of a prejudice’s existence, and the actual impact it has on a given person’s life. On the privilege checklist a few people have posted, a number of the categories are things like “I have never been called a racial slur.” But what if you’ve been called a racial slur once in your life, or even once every three or four years? What if there are one or two instances in which you’ve felt the need to hide your religion, or you occasionally get cat-called?</p>
<p>Obviously, none of these things are OK, and I don’t want to trivialize the fact that there are people whose experience of racism and sexism is far more profound than that. At the same time, things like that privilege checklist seem to encourage (no pun intended) privileging the worst and most uncomfortable experiences you’ve ever had over what may actually be a narrative of relative success, acceptance, and fair-treatment. </p>
<p>It also, frankly, makes it harder to know when to take seriously reports of what may be real, honest-to-goodness prejudice. When someone starts complaining about things like having to cope with people referring to something beige as “skin-tone,” or someone not knowing that “Nigerian” isn’t a language, or only having 9 % representation of a certain group when really it should be 12 %, then yes, I’m going to be more skeptical when they talk about teachers ignoring them because of their race or gender, or wonder how often they’ve really been followed in the local store. And I’m sure some people aren’t exaggerating at all, and don’t deserve the skepticism. But we’ve all heard the story of the boy who cried wolf. </p>