chem 20a or 20ah

<p>im in L&S college right now and plan to transfer to chemical engineering.
i plan on taking math 32a, econ 1or2, and chem something. i dont know if i should take chem 20a or 20ah. i would take 20a to fulfill the engineering requirement. but there is a slight possibility that i may not transfer, and then taking 20ah would help with my honors units. Lin (prof for 20ah) sounds kind-of hard. i took ap chem and got a 5 in 10th grade. if i take 20ah and then transfer, then all that extra stress and work would be useless. should i just take 20ah anyways?</p>

<p>lol if ur a chemical engineer why are you taking econ?? I wouldn’t recommend those three classes together (im assuming ur a new freshman) for ur first quarter. If you decide to do it, id stay away from honors.</p>

<p>im taking econ just to explore i guess. just to see if im interested in maybe doing business. im undeclared right now, and want to keep my options open, even though im leaning towards chemical engineering</p>

<p>bumpp :slight_smile:
10 char</p>

<p>Professor Lin is still one of my favorite professors of the year (next to Smallberg :smiley: )
I think people usually either love him or hate him
and during the first lecture, wow did I hate him. He had a horribly thick accent and I had no clue what he was talking about. but I got used to the accent after a couple weeks and his concern for his students was almost insane. He would help out in whatever way he can, he asked his students to fill out a paper about themselves so that he could remember them if/when they asked for a recommendation letter, would stay up all night so he can finish grading our midterms (or “self-examinations” as he would call them), he gave people a reward if you improved a lot on the second self-examination from the first self-examination, and he gave his 200+ lecture Diddy Riese cookies and Belgium chocolates.</p>

<p>but this is the only class where I went to all the lectures and discussions, office hours (sometimes multiple times a week), and had a study group. There was also a Thursday “bonus” lecture which I actually didn’t go to, and it looks like he’s not doing it this quarter. (and I barely go to half my lectures in my other classes, but maybe I just suck at chem)</p>

<p>He had “previews” due every lecture that consisted of one or two problems which was how he kept track of attendance, and a problem set that had about 6 problems due each week. I worked on the problem set with my study group, and this was the only time I used a study group.</p>

<p>He doesn’t use the book that much (Zumdahl) but passes out Lecture Notes in class.</p>

<p>If you go into Chemical Engineering, I’d recommend the class for the “love of chemistry” since the lectures were usually entertaining and I found quantum chemistry to be quite interesting.
If you’re doing it for honors credit, I’m not exactly sure how honors credit works, but I’d suggest getting them elsewhere since I doubt it will be worth the effort.</p>

<p>Note: I took Lin last year for Chem20A not honors.
but being an honors class doesn’t necessarily mean it’s harder (depends on the professor). I took Chem20BH which seemed a lot more chill than the non-honors class.</p>

<p>Also, Lin was a substitute for my Chem20BH class and after the lecture, I heard comments like “best lecture I’ve had at UCLA” from the other students.</p>

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<p>Bruinboy, I disagree with you. Have you heard of management minor for an engineer. Also, those three classes are cake for a first quarter. Chemistry 20AH may be more work than anticipated, but Math 32A is not difficult and Econ1 has an easy learning curve if one has taken even basic Economics in high school.</p>

<p>That schedule should not be too difficult.</p>

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Because the OP isn’t close-minded and clueless like yourself.</p>

<p>@ OP
Lin is one of the best Chem professors you’ll ever take at UCLA. If you ever have any troubles with the class, attend office hours and he’ll help you any way he can. He’ll even hold study sessions during the weekends if enough people need it.</p>

<p>thanks, this really helps!</p>

<p>math 32a easy? i hope so. i took ap calc bc as a junior and got a 5, but i dont remember much, haha</p>

<p>rushrules1: relax, i wasn’t trying to come across as closeminded…
some people might take Econ 1 for the hell of it (openmindednes i guess…) and not know that its a really difficult class that shouldn’t be taken with two other really difficult classes during the first quarter of freshman year. (i don’t understand how math 32a is easy, but it doesn’t seem like it)</p>

<p>Econ 1 is hard? argh. is this a hard schedule? chem 20ah & math 32a</p>

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So you admit to being clueless. Since you are blatantly oblivious, being a freshman has nothing to do with a student’s (potential) capabilities because part of the college experience is about, duh, self-discovery. To you, the approach to tapping into unknown abilities is by not trying.</p>

<p>And too late about you not being close-minded either. Hey I can be close-minded too, considering I don’t understand why people like you think Math 32A doesn’t seem easy and think that Econ 1 & Chem 20a/h are difficult.</p>

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You’ll be in a bit of trouble then, if you forget more than half of it.</p>

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I think Math 32A has a difficulty rating of 4/10. If that is a hard course, then upper division courses in your major will be impossible.</p>

<p>Speaking for a transition, most people who start with 32A do fine, assuming they don’t slack off.</p>

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From previous second hand stories, Econ 1 and 2 are easy. That’s why people swtich majors into Biz-Econ because they want to party, and have no problem with that class.</p>

<p>thanks boelterhall!!</p>

<p>rushrules: relax, i don’t understand how my post could generate such an attack, but whatever…</p>

<p>silly:just take the classes, and self-discover how much harder college is than high school</p>

<p>ahaha okay.
i guess none of us can really be prepared for college work?..no matter how many APs</p>

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Give it up. You gave uninformed, uneducated, crappy advice. And no one on the thread ever said college is easy because, duh again, success, academic or otherwise, takes effort.</p>

<p>I think the point is that it’s not the worst idea to ease into college instead of charging in and potentially being in over your head. Some people have few problems and some are overwhelmed. I know plenty of people who have “taken it easy” their first quarter before upping the course load. I’m also not sure how this could be taken with such vitriol.</p>