Chicago mayor: No HS diploma without a post-HS education or military plan

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-no-hs-diploma-without-a-plan-for-graduation/

I think is a bad idea.

Wow. And we thought the culminating project was a pain in the butt.

If community colleges in IL are open admission, then it should be trivial to fulfill the requirement by showing an admission letter from a community college, so that a student taking a gap year to work or for some other reason can do that to graduate high school, but withdraw later before classes start.

What a stupid, arrogant person. Not only do you have to have a plan, it has to be a plan acceptable to him. Apparently graduating and working at a job isn’t good enough for him. Many people do not want to go to any college, serve in the military or go to trade school after college, they just want to work, and it’s their right to do so. Must we really force people to incur debt for education they don’t want? Or lie about what they intend to do? I hope this does not come to fruition.

http://ccc.edu/services/Pages/Apply-for-College.aspx looks like it will provide the needed admission letter.

Why should anyone come up with a bogus plan so they would be allowed to graduate?! Extra busy work. Absolutely unnecessary.

Ironically, it are those who AREN’T going on to further education who will be hurt most by this proposal. At least a HS diploma designates some proficiencies, in theory. Withholding HS diplomas may cause dropout rate to skyrocket. If the kid needs to work for whatever reason and can’t go on to school or must defer, why penalize?

If this was implemented in towns/cities like that West Massachusetts town a Boston friend is from, that would mean only a quarter of his HS graduating HS class would have gotten their HS diplomas. And I mean the TOP quarter as the vast majority of the rest weren’t interested/weren’t able to qualify to enlist in the military* or couldn’t afford/weren’t interested/couldn’t qualify for admission in/for further education at that point in their lives.

I wouldn’t be surprised if my college town’s local HS ended up with a similar statistic if this policy was implemented there.

Dumb…dumb…dumb…

  • Couldn't get the minimal ASVAB score, legal issues, health issues, etc.

It sounds like a good idea if it’s ‘show you have a plan for after high school graduation : a job, community college, 4-year or trade school, apprenticeship …’
I don’t think it’s arrogant to make sure all kids who graduate have thought about what they’ll do after high school. Where I live, some kids start thinking about it two weeks before graduation and immediately freak out. Having some kind of rule that you MUST think about life after highschool sounds reasonable. An obligation for further education sounds un-necessary to me but that’s not the proposal. If you look at the requirement, it does include ‘job’ (internship, which is looser than job since it can include paid work or volunterr work.) There would be free community college for all students with a B average - this is different from requiring college for all.

That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen…

I think this poses a threat to civil liberties.

Geez, some government officials can’t seem to understand it’s not their job to tell everyone else how to live.

^^especially in Chicago!

I think this idea, in part, is a step to figuring out a way to curb the violence in Chicago. It’s a problem that needs to be addressed on many levels. I don’t see this sticking, or helping anyone.

This won’t curb violence. The HS 5 year graduation rate in Chicago is 75% which is a solid improvement over the last five years so kuods. I see this as discouraging some to just drop out if they hate school, particularly those who would need five years for HS.

It just doesn’t make sense. The proposal included trade school which I think more kids should consider but not mandatory for a degree you’ve already earned.

I totally get what the mayor is doing. These are the same principles my parents set for me and my siblings. We had three choices after graduation: college, military or job. That should be the requirement for all high school graduates.

Job wasn’t one of the options.

Yes it is (read the article not the headline). As are apprenticeships, trade schools, etc.
The one option missing is 'unstructured gap year/travellibg the world ’ but I’m guessing this isn’t high on the list if choices for Chicago public school students.
I don’t know Chicago politics but this seems common sense to me: you need to know what you’ll be doing after high school.
In my town, ‘wait and see’ means hanging out at home or on the street. It rarely bodes well. Anyone who’s worked with high school seniors knows they need to plan for their post graduationndays, and those who don’t have one need an extra push.
The proposal says nothing about graduating in 4 vs 5 years and it has provisions for Special Ed learners or ell 's.
If people from Chicago have other insider info than what’s published in the article, please post, but to me that idea seems like common sense. I wouldn’t want my kid to get to May senior year with no idea of what comes next. I don’t think k it’s too high a standard to expect an 18-year old to have some plan.

“an acceptance letter to a four-year university, a community college, a trade school or apprenticeship, an internship, or a branch of the armed services in order to receive their high school diploma.”

An internship could be a job but there are many jobs that aren’t internships.

At the high school level ‘internship ’ covers paid jobs and volunteer activities.
(a ‘high school internship’ isn’t the same as a college internship’. High school internships cover temp work, manual labor, career preparation…, especially at career high schools). The language could be clearer to make sure that all understand paid or volunteer positions are included. If jobs aren’t included then there’s a problem, but I doubt it’s the case, as it’d make no sense.