<p>Uhh, you guys honestly believe that there is a positive correlation with number of posts and test scores/stats? I know people with 36s, 2400s, and 4.0s who have never gone on CC because they hate the palpable stress and desperation of the atmosphere. Maybe he is the same way most of the time.
I believe him. And congratulations on all you have achieved.</p>
<p>Nocturne’s stats are perfectly plausible but don’t guarantee acceptance at a school like WashU.</p>
<p>I wasn’t commenting on the number of posts assertion, actually. That is meaningless I think. I meant the scores seemed suspiciously perfect. The number of people that score that perfectly on that many tests is so small as to be negligible. But one clue that his post is fictitious are his own words:</p>
<p>“SAT I: 800M, 800CR, 800W, 12E, 80MC single session”
“ACT: 36 (36M, 36E, 36R, 35S, 10W) single session”
“I never do as well on the ACT essays as the SAT ones, for whatever reason”</p>
<p>That last statement implies multiple sessions, contradicting his claim he only took them once. I suppose you could say he took them other times and only the last time did he get those scores in a single session, but unless he is spending every weekend taking exams, this also seems unlikely. Also there is a STRONG correlation in test scores even over multiple takings, Kaplan and the other programs notwithstanding. Just too many flags to ignore, if this were really an investigation.</p>
<p>Mostly though, I thought it was just fairly amusing; unless any of you actually know this guy it is all rather pointless anyway. Just fun to speculate sometimes.</p>
<p>ACCEPTED</p>
<p>credit, i just copied someone format for this</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* SAT I: 710M, 680CR, 740W, 9E,
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SAT IIs: 710 Biology, 710 Math I, 760Mathematics II, 730 U.S. History, 730Physics
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GPA: 3.9 unweighted ~4.16 weighted
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Other stats: APs: graduating with 11 : Euro, Comp Sci A, American, Lang, Stat, Physics B, Lit, Econ Micro, Macro, Calc BC, Chem
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Essays: Amazingly written
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Teacher Recs: Excellent. (was a student teacher for 2 years with one of my teachers)
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Counselor Rec: Excellent.
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Hook (if any): Lab research, Science research, poster for state level science competition, etc
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* Region: Northeast
- School Type: Public, about 600 students
- Ethnicity: White
- Gender: Male
</code></pre>
<p>I looked at nocturne’s other post and I believe him… It says single-sitting, but he did take it more than once… I dont think THAT many more times, but it says his last test, kept the CR and W at 800 but raised math by 50 pts, so he did take it more than once. His strategy was to practice for a long time before-hand with as many practice tests he could get his hands on. In addition, his biggest piece of advice was just to practice because test-taking is a skill that may be strengthened through repetition in a familiar environment. Very small % of students are like him, but they exist and should be proud of their accomplishments. He may have gotten waitlisted at WashU, but he has gotten into some very good schools otherwise. Good luck to him.</p>
<p>Decision: Waitlisted</p>
<p>Stats:
-SAT I: 630 CR 780 M 650 W E-10 (one sitting)
-SAT IIs: 770 Math II 730 Chem 710 US H
-ACT: n/a
-GPA: 4.00 (unweighted), 4.44 (weighted)
-Rank: 1/204
-Other stats: Member of a Research Institute/H Rights Advocacy Group toward Lebanon. President of my church youth group (also an ethnic youth group). I play Rugby on a nationally competitive team (won an award for defense on the team). Teach bible classes at my church to kindergartners. Senior editor of Yearbook (only senior in the yearbook club). And a couple other minor-school-based clubs. (e.g. Investment Club). About 2-4 hrs of service per week (tutoring in school, out of school, et. al.)
-Essays: The writing for my essay was decent, but the topic was very unique IMO. I wrote about how I came to finally appreciate the land of my heritage (Leb) after experiencing the 2006 Summer War in the country and observing the interesting psychological state of those around me (and myself) while we were trapped in the country amidst warfare.
-Teacher Recs: One should be very good, another should be very good/good.
-Counselor Rec: I have no idea.<br>
-Hook (if any): Not really. I guess I just have had more unique experiences in my life than the typical applicant. I live in Leb every summer, speak arabic, and (as you can see), much of my Ex-Cs are geared toward my heritage.
-State or Country:
-School Type: College-Prep
-Ethnicity: Leb.
-Gender: Male
-Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: My strengths include my GPA, class rank, Ex-Cs, Service, Essay, Some Recs. My weaknesses: SATs of course! (especially CR). SAT IIs are not that great, but I guess they are decent. I also showed no interest toward Wash U (visits, mailing list, etc.). </p>
<p>-Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/denied: I think I was waitlisted because of 1. My SAT score. 2. Lack of Interest. or probably 3. A combination of poor SAT scores and lack of interest.</p>
<p>General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc: I was actually expecting an acceptance, but looking at all the other more qualified applicants who were accepted/waitlisted, I realize I have no reason to complain. Wash U was my 2/3rd choice, so I am definitely staying on the waitlist. Congrats to all those who were accepted!</p>
<p>I totally understand why I waitlisted, but does anyone think I actually had a chance for Wash U, or have a chance for Duke? Thanks for your chances.</p>
<p>Your CR is a little low but that’s the only possible setback I see in your application. I think if you do a good job showing interest in WashU, you should stand a chance. Can’t really speak for Duke but I think you stand an excellent shot anywhere. Don’t be too down about being WL’d at WashU.</p>
<p>Yea I know my CR is very low (in respect to top schools of course) and my writing (which should really be 700+)!! But, thanks for the input. I would definetly not be suprised if Duke rejected/waitlisted me. I was just worried that I did not even stand a chance. I just wish I could retake the SAT so I can get at least 2100+.</p>
<p>Decision: Wait listed! Ah it’s horrible! lol at least I got inot V Tech.</p>
<p>Hey Guys, is there anyone from Nepal other than me who was waitlisted?</p>
<p>[ size=+1][ color=blue][ b]Decision: Waitlisted [ /b][ /color][ /size]</p>
<p>[ b]Stats:[ /b][ list]
[ *] SAT I: didn’t take
[ *] SAT IIs: didn’t take
[ *] ACT: 32 - I guess I just didn’t really realize how important it was to take the ACT. I’m from Minnesota, where literally everyone takes the ACT. I think only like 10 to 15 percent of my 3,000 student school takes the SAT. And colleges say they don’t care which one you take, but I’ve been rejected or waitlisted everywhere…
[ *] GPA: 3.96 unweighted
[ *] Rank: 36 of 790 - This is a complete joke. It’s a huge controversy at my school. We’re a huge sports school, so to protect the GPAs of the athletes, grades are unweighted. Historically, the majority of the valedictorians have been athletes who spent most of their time taking ceramics. I’m only just realizing now how much this may have hurt me.
[ *] Other stats: 4 AP Microeconomics, 5 more coming this year!
[ /list][ b]Subjective:[ /b][ list]
[ *] Essays: I think they were good. I honestly can’t remember which one I submitted. Kind of about growing up in the heartland.
[ *] Teacher Recs: Never saw them.
[ *] Counselor Rec: Never saw this either. Our school got like two new counselors this year. My counselor decided to retire the year before my senior year. I got one of the new guys, and, go figure, he has literally no counseling experience. My old one had done it for thirty years…
[ *] Hook (if any): Don’t know if you could call it a hook, but I spent some time living in someone’s home in China this summer.
[ /list][ b]Location/Person:[ /b][ list]
[ *] State or Country: Minnesota
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: White… and sick of being judged by it.
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: Class rank and the fact that I didn’t take the SAT are huge weaknesses. I thought I had a good shot because I really focused hard on my music in high school and didn’t join a million different things. I also have a ton of experience in the work force.
[ *] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: Donno. Probably the test scores. And the fact that I’m a white female from the Midwest.
[ /list][ b]Other Factors:[ /b]
[ b]General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:[ /b] I really don’t think I’ll go here now. Even if I do get accepted mid-June, I don’t think I can handle that psychologically. By the time May 1 rolls around, I want to focus on the college I chose, none of this after-the-fact stuff. I’ll probably end up at the U of MN, the worst thing that could ever happen in the world, but it seems like maybe it’s my only choice. Congrats to everyone who got in!</p>
<p>yeah i got invited to the multicultural weekend but didn’t the moog fellowship…but i got the summer scholars program! idk if i’ll go there though…</p>
<p>**Decision: ACCEPTED **</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I: 1890
[</em>] SAT IIs: 740 Math I, 610 USH
[<em>] ACT: 30
[</em>] GPA: 3.85
[<em>] Rank: School doesn’t rank
[</em>] Other stats: Moved to US junior year
[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: Tried to encorporate my diversity into this
[</em>] Teacher Recs: One was really good. Other one was ok
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Ok i think
[</em>] Hook (if any): URM
[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Indiana
[</em>] School Type: Private
[<em>] Ethnicity: Arab
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Perceived Strengths/Weaknesses: URM, soccer
[</em>] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: I know it was because i’m Arab. No way i could get in on just GPA and test scores
[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:</p>
<p>Only school that i felt really cared about me during the application process. I’ll probably end up going here if i don’t get in Stanford.</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted into the College of Arts and Sciences </p>
<p>Stats:
SAT I: Cr 590, M 660, W 720, Total 1970
SAT IIs: Math IIC 660, Spanish 660, English Literature 600
ACT: 32
GPA: 4.1
Rank: Top 10%
Other stats: 3 on AP BIO and 5 on AP English Reading and Comp.
Essays: great.
Teacher Recs: fantastic
Counselor Rec: Not sure
Hook (if any): idk</p>
<p>Location/Person:
State or Country: TEXAS!
School Type: Private and Religious
Ethnicity: White
Gender:Male</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted to Arts and Sciences</p>
<p>Stats:</p>
<pre><code>* SAT: M780, CR650, W680, T2110
- SAT IIs: Math IIC 780, Bio 730, Chinese 800
- ACT:
- GPA: 4.0 UW, 4.2 W
- Rank: 1/538
- Other stats: AP Stats 5, AP Bio 5, AP Chinese Lit 5
</code></pre>
<p>Subjective:</p>
<pre><code>* Essays: shows a lot of personality and passion
- Teacher Recs: never read them but assuming very good?
- Counselor Rec: good?
- Hook (if any):
</code></pre>
<p>Location/Person:</p>
<pre><code>* State or Country: CA
- School Type: very competitive public school
- Ethnicity: Chinese
- Gender: Female
- major strength/weakness: strengths are class rank, a lot of summer camps/enrichment programs, piano, essay. weaknesses are SAT scores, not a lot of EC’s, no leadership positions
- why you think you were accepted/rejected/defered: essays, rank, enrichment programs
- going to attend? dont know. i got into washu…i heard it’s better? i’m not sure
</code></pre>
<p>Other Factors: immigrant</p>
<p>**Decision: Accepted **</p>
<p>**Stats: ** [ul]
[<em>] Fee Waiver Used?: no
[</em>] SAT I (by section): took twice, 1st time 2100 (Math 710, CR 700, Writing 690), 2nd time 2250 (Math 770, CR 710, Writing 770)
[<em>] SAT IIs: 800 (Literature) 800 (Chemistry) 780 (Math II)
[</em>] GPA, Weighted and Unweighted: Weighted 4.0 (I’ve had 2 A-s in Spanish 4AC and Algebra 3/4 AC)
[<em>] Rank: ?/500, top 5%
[</em>] ACT: 35
[<em>] APs (including this year’s): European History (5), US History (4), English Literature (5), English Language (5), Chemistry (5), Biology, Physics, Calc BC
[</em>] IBs (including this year’s: n/a
[<em>] Senior Yr Courseload: Humanities AC (2-hr class on history, literature, art history, and music history), AP Biology, AP Bhysics, AP Calculus BC, school newspaper, Film as Literature, Government
[</em>] Number of Apps from Your School: at least 5, 2 were waitlisted, 3 others were accepted
[li] Other stats (Awards, etc.):[/li]- National Merit Finalist
- Most Improved Player in Orchestra
- Joyce Ivy Foundation Summer Scholarship
- 2 Gold Keys from Scholastic Art & Writing Contest
In the Business Professionals of America State and Regional Competitions: - 2007: Regional 4th place in Basic Office Systems & Procedures, Regional 5th place in Fundamental Word Processing
- 2008: Regional 3rd place in Advanced Office Systems & Procedures, Regional 2nd place in Advanced Word Processing, State 7th place in Advanced Office Systems & Procedures, State 3rd place in Advanced Word Processing
- U of M National Nanotechnology Infrastructure Network Award at the 2007 Southeast Michigan Science Fair
- Certificate of Recognition from the Air & Waste Management Association, East Michigan Chapter in recognition of a noteworthy entry in the field of environmental engineering and sciences at the 2007 Southeast Michigan Science Fair</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] ECs listed on app: School newspaper (Page editor, News editory, Managing Editor, I started and led the copy-editing team for 2 years), Asian club (Obviously not the name, Treasurer, President), Business Professionals of America (BPA, Secretary), JV Tennis (co-captain), TAC (Book club, co-founder), Symphony Orchestra (highest-level orchestra), Geriatrics program (volunteered for 2 years)
[</em>] Job/Work Experience: Japanese restaurant (6-10 hrs per week)
[<em>] Essays (subject and responses): This was a very conventional essay, about how I gave up on learning how to dive and how it affected me and my beliefs. It wasn’t very special or outstanding, but wasn’t boring.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Math teacher and English teacher. IDK about the math teacher, she was always very sweet and nice to me, and I always did well in her class. English teacher saw a lot of improvement in my writing, told my dad that I was a natural writer, and knew my genuine interest in literature.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: probably good. He always chooses me for top student awards/prizes.
[</em>] Interview (feel, interviewer and general location): no interview
[li] Hook (TASP, RSI, Research, etc.): none</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Michigan
[</em>] School Type, Average Stats of School (if available): very competitive public school
[<em>] Ethnicity: Asian
[</em>] Gender: Female
[<em>] Income Bracket: $100,000 +
[</em>] Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none
[<em>] Strengths: good test scores, strong courseload, I really love to learn and I think that showed through my courseload and summer activities.
[</em>] Weaknesses: I don’t stand out in the applicant pool, Asian female
[li] Why you think you were accepted/deferred/denied: strong statistics, good recs</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors:
General Comments/Congratulations/Venting/Commiserations,etc:</p>
<p>I also went to academic programs for two summers. I went to Northwestern’s CTD program for AP English: Language and Composition and Columbia’s HSP Science of Psychology. Received As in both classes. I also took an online class at John Hopkins called Crafting the Essay, and received an A.</p>
<p>Decision: Wait-listed</p>
<p>Stats:
SAT: 2070 (Oct 2007)
SAT IIs: 800 Math2C (June 06), 800 Physics (June 07), 800 Chem (June 08), 780 Bio M (June 08)
ACT: 35 / 8 Writing; 33 / 10 Writing
GPA: unweighted GPA not available, 4.56 w
Rank: Top 10% (Cum Laude)
Other stats: taking 4 ap classes this year with 2 honors
APs taken already: Physics B, Calc AB, Calc BC, Chem, Bio, US Gov’t (All 5’s)
Subjective:
Essays: I thought my essays were good, but now that I think about it more, I’m not so sure if they were that good.
Teacher Recs: One from Chem teacher (I’m a Chem major), and one from my math/physics teacher. I wish I got one from an English teacher instead of two science teachers…
Counselor Rec: I seriously don’t know why but somehow he thinks I’m amazing
Hook (if any): None
Location/Person:
State or Country: International student, Currently in Kansas
School Type: Small private
Ethnicity: Korean
Gender: F
major strength/weakness: Weaknesses - really weak ECs, and a typical Asian stat
Strengths - I have good scores (except for my SATI)
why you think you were accepted/rejected/deferred: Don’t know. I’m not going to stay in the wait-list.</p>
<p>**Decision: Accepted **</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT I: 2260
[</em>] SAT IIs: MathII 770, Chem 780, Physics 760
[li] GPA: 4.12</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays:Alright, I suppose.
[</em>] Hook (if any): MK?</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State:VA
[</em>] School Type: Public Magnet
[<em>] Gender:Male
[</em>] Perceived Weaknesses: GPA? SAT?
[/ul]Other Factors: Lots of volunteering. Lots of sports.</p>
<p>Decision: Accepted</p>
<p>Stats:[ul]</p>
<p>[<em>] SAT Verbal: 760
[</em>] SAT Math: 770
[<em>] SAT Writing: 720
[</em>] SAT Total: 2250
[<em>] SAT II: Biology (M) - 720, Math Level II - 800, US History - 780, Chemistry - 770
[</em>] ACT: no thanks, I’m east coast
[<em>] AP scores: Biology - 4, European History - 5, Language and Composition - 5, US History - 5, Chemistry - 5, Calculus BC - 5, Physics (mechanics) - 5
[</em>] GPA weighted: 4.74
[<em>] GPA unweighted: 3.75
[</em>] Rank or % estimate: school doesn’t rank, but definitely top ten %</p>
<p>[/ul]Subjective:[ul]
[<em>] Essays: An inspiring tale of how one underweight freshman overcame all the obstacles… and still got stuck running cross-country.
[</em>] Teacher Recs: Too long, didn’t read. Probably fine, though.
[<em>] Counselor Rec: Good, but she left this year for another school…
[</em>] Hook (if any): I live vicariously through more interesting people.</p>
<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: Pennsylvania, suburbs of Philadelphia
[</em>] School Type: Large competitive public school, 2000 kids, ranked in top 100 high schools by US News & World Digest a couple of years ago
[<em>] Ethnicity: Pakistan is the best!
[</em>] Gender: Male
[<em>] Legacy Yes/No: no
[</em>] Recruited Yes/No: Not that fast, sorry.
[<em>] Important ECs:Cross Country (JV 9/10, Varsity 11/12), Spring Track & Field (JV 9/10/11), Model UN (11/12), concert band - saxaphone (9/10), Hospital volunteering (2008, about 100 hours), guitar (past five years)
[</em>] Likely Letter Yes/No: no
[li] Interview: no</p>[/li]
<p>[/ul]Other Factors: Taking AP Psychology, AP Statistics, AP Literature and Composition, AP US Government, and AP Physics II (E/M) right now. </p>
<p>General Comments/Congratulations/etc: Looking forward to visiting over spring break. Oh, and let’s put another shrimp on the barbie!</p>
<p>Accepted: University of Pittsburgh, PennState, UNC Chapel Hill</p>