Class of 2018 Decisions

Colleges & Universities Tulane University
981

<p>I responded to you, fc, but it didn’t show up. Here’s a re-try: I hear all this talk about colleges are business and yadayada. Let me change the discourse: how is spending lots of money on marketing and brand improving the education of one single student? That’s what colleges should be focused on, not getting their “CEOs” and admins promoted.</p>

982

<p>I applied EA and was accepted early in December to the Honors program with a presidential scholarship.
My stats:
ACT: 35
Class Rank: 1
GPA: 4.350 W, 4.0 UW
Lots of extracurriculars like debate, speech, etc.
Not sure if I’ll be attending Tulane but it’s definitely an option!</p>

983

<p>Admitted!</p>

<p>3.49 UW GPA
4.0 W GPA
2180 SAT
30 ACT
Good essay/Good recs</p>

<p>Got the Founder’s Scholarship $22,000/yr
Just applied for the DHS and about to apply to the Paul Tulane Award.
Hoping to get one!!</p>

984

<p>jhh - too late now, pretty much, but did you apply for either the DHS or PTA?</p>

985

<p>jkeil - I understand what you mean, and it is a topic that could be discussed for hours. But let me give you my take on that.</p>

<p>A great college experience is made up of many factors, of course. The campus and location, the quality of the faculty, the opportunities for numerous other activities such as research, sports, clubs, and so on. But at least half the equation, I would say, is the quality of your fellow students. It impacts almost everything, regardless of these other factors. My son’s experience is a prime example. He went to a state school virtually identical in size to Tulane, and while not quite as high stats as Tulane’s it is the state LAC and is the most selective in the state system, but it could not have been more rural. It was hours from anyplace of any size. It also didn’t present the research opportunities and was not as well equipped overall as Tulane.</p>

<p>My point being that mostly because the other students were also bright, engaged, and cared about balancing school and play, he had an excellent college career. And even though this was a state school, they marketed themselves to ensure they got the type of student body that made that possible and created a “brand” that becomes, if not self-perpetuating, then at least becomes established and something to build on. It is very similar to what Tulane is doing, and in some ways Tulane has a bigger challenge because they want to do this nationally and internationally. But to stay on point, it is all geared towards, to expand on your phrase, “improving the education of every single student”.</p>

<p>Using that money to buy more lab equipment or hire a few extra professors or whatever seems tempting and maybe even logical in some ways, I get that. But take my word for it as someone that has observed the effects of not marketing aggressively, even when one is on top. It can have quite negative, and sometimes even disastrous consequences.</p>

986

<p>fallenchemist - I did not apply for either of those</p>

987

<p>I have experience in this matter, too, fc, and I think that if college administrators spent as much time and money empowering their faculty and students as they do convincing everyone that a business model is appropriate for academia, schools still would market themselves successfully as they always have. as for the rural or smaller or less well known schools, they can’t survive when the measure of their quality is how much they spend on advertising. Schools shouldn’t be expected to be all things to all people from all over the country, yet that is the direction administrators want to take us in because that’s what makes them successful in the eyes of politicians and boards full of meddling businessmen. If your child wants to go to a school where he or she will be surrounded by bright, motivated globalists, America has such schools for them. Why should a sleepy state school have to compete for that kind of student when its own citizens and the majority of its students have needs and desires that are not so far-reaching? Who benefits when those marketing dollars are spent to make the sleepy state school appear as if it is something it is not? to be continued…</p>

988

<p>Was accepted a week ago and got my scholarship letter recently, 22k/year. I’m excited because this takes a lot of the financial pressure of college off my family as I have a sibling in college as well. Putting my deposit down this week!!! Can’t wait for next year!</p>

989

<p>Fantastic, bromar! Very exciting. Welcome to the world of being a Tulanian.</p>

990

<p>jkeil - I think you impute motives to the ad campaigns I didn’t state or intend, but I also suspect we won’t agree on this topic. As I said early on, it could go back and forth dozens of times as it is very complex and subjective, and distracts from this thread. So I will let your previous post stand as the last argument for this.</p>

991

<p>and I will salute your polite gesture. now, back to the students: congratulations, bromar! how excellent that tulane can serve your family as well as you.</p>

992

<p>How long does it typically take to hear back from admissions counselors? I emailed mine on the morning of the 12th regarding my deferral and she still hasn’t responded. Just wondering when I can expect a response.</p>

993

<p>Obviously they are EXTREMELY busy as the deadline hits today. I would say if you don’t hear by the end of the year, write again shortly after New Year’s Day. Did you actually ask a question that requires a response, or were you just writing to say you still want to attend Tulane? If the latter, then maybe no response is required.</p>

994

<p>Ewtoast,</p>

<p>Three of my son’s four emails to his admission counselor have gone unanswered during this whole EA application process. He’s another high stats kid who was deferred despite legitimate interest in Tulane. It’s hard to show “demonstrated interest” when it’s a one-way conversation. Hopefully, as FC noted, in your case it may simply be that his/her plate is very full at the present time.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

995

<p>I think it depends on who your counselor is. I’ve emailed my counselor twice and have gotten a reply within a few hours.</p>

996

<p>Colleges have billion dollar budgets and many good things go down the tubes if they don’t put butts in seats and bring in tuition revenue. Like it or not. Tulane is actually a leader in this aspect of higher ed. All those merit scholarships from Tulane you all delight in getting? That’s page one from the Enrollment Management 101 playbook. What universities call “merit scholarships” are what other kinds of businesses call a “discount” or a “sale.” Pretty good marketing – it worked on me! </p>

<p>And look who one of the top guys at the Royall consulting firm is: </p>

<p>"Richard Whiteside, Ph.D.
Dean, Strategic Enrollment Management
Royall & Company</p>

<p>Dick works directly with members of the Client Development and Account Services groups, deepening their understanding of the implications of Royall programs on enrollment offices, on the strategic, tactical, operational and financial levels.</p>

<p>Before joining Royall in 2006, Dick spent 37 years in enrollment management and academic affairs, the last 13 as Dean of Admission and Vice President of Enrollment Management at Tulane University."

997

<p>@asleepat the wheel,
There definitely seems to be a difference in response time to emails depending on who your ad counselors is. We have nothing but good things to say about Jeff who is in charge of SoCal. It really does not seem equal with the various regions. Also, there definitely does not seem some consistent measure how interest is being evaluated…and obviously they got it wrong with some of the deferred kids where Tulane was their first choice. The college process and acceptance seems to be a little random process at times. The only good thing is they will All go to college somewhere next fall, and most of them will be happy where they ultimately end up, and will never look back to those schools where they applied but did not get accepted. There is not one college that kids have to go to to be successful…just there is not the one person in the whole world that you have to find to get married to…��</p>

998

<p>Also, keep in mind some of the admissions counselors have been there for years, and others are either rookies or 2nd year. That certainly makes a difference as well.</p>

<p>As far as inconsistency in evaluating interest, that will always be true. No two applications are identical and, since there is no mathematical formula nor can they read minds, it is a semi-subjective analysis. Admissions in general will never be an exact science.</p>

999

<p>Congratulations to everyone!!! </p>

<p>Admitted!</p>

<p>2210 SAT
4.0 GPA 6.0 Weighted
Bunch of APs
Some ECs</p>

<p>When do we get the admit packets in the mail?</p>

1000

<p>Should be there this week sometime.</p>