Class of 2019 (the journey begins) - Sharing,Venting, Etc

@origamimommy I would also check if the BA music program allows the vocal performance students to sing the same repertoire as the MT students. Many VP programs are more classically based and might not allow them to work on many MT songs.

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KaMaMom + D = Woot Woot!!!

I am late to the party - but happy to join the celebration now
 CONGRATS @KaMaMom‌ and D!!! YAYAYAY!!

Rumor has it CMU calls are happening


@uskoolfish I hadn’t thought about that, great question! @vvnstar‌ @emsdad Thanks for all the thoughts! We have a lot to talk about and my D has a lot to process through. I have no doubt the BA programs are wonderful there. We LOVED everything about OCU
except the $$$ :neutral_face: That is a big factor too! It will mean major debt for D after graduation, will it be worth it?

Doing a happy dance for you @KaMaMom, for you and your D. Tenacity and resilience win the day!!

Doing a happy dance for you @KaMaMom, for you and your D. Tenacity and resilience win the day!!

Doing a happy dance for you @KaMaMom, for you and your D. Tenacity and resilience win the day!!

Doing a happy dance for you @KaMaMom, for you and your D. Tenacity and resilience win the day!!

I’m making one more venture out of my two year plus lurking stint to join the celebration party for @KaMaMom and D! I am so thrilled to hear this news! I hope even more great news comes your way!

@kamamom so so so unbelievably happy for you, your daughter and the wise folks who accepted her! insert happy dancing here!

Okay, so after lurking here for months, I’m about to burst! After a very low depressing first two weeks of March, a lot of rejections and two wait lists, in the past week, my S got his first acceptance to UC Irvine, then a few days later to UCLA and then today to USC!!! And to top it all off, he was just cast as the Baker in a local children’s production of Into The Woods on Tuesday! Could this week have gone any better??? I just had to share it here because NO ONE else realizes that magnitude of getting into these programs - they are all impressed with the names of the schools but don’t realize that it’s even harder to get into these programs than it is for most kids to just get accepted into the school itself! Thank you for all being here for me to tell it to people who realize what it means!

Way to go @clangirl and S!! It DOES all work out. Many times the path getting there is a tough one. Congrats.

OK, just because it’s the wee hours and I can’t keep myself from playing with matches, I’m tossing this grenade into the fray. Feel free to ignore. This issue of verbal acceptance/enthusiasm/praise/fawning or whatever seems to be endemic in the theater/music world. H (in the position of hiring/firing people on a regular - daily - basis) and I were discussing last night that many people in the Arts world are conflict-averse and really cannot deal effectively with, or directly communicate ambiguity/negativity. Inflated affirmation is EVERYwhere and what occurred at @bogeyw’s audition happens over and over again (“We LOVE your band and really want to sign you to our label. We’ll talk to your manager tomorrow”, anyone? And yes, many of those band members are teenagers.) This type of communication/interaction does not fly in the business world, but it is almost a “standard” in the Arts world.

And to be fair, how many of us/our children are “honest” about our/their true feelings/intent regarding a prospective school/program when we/they are in the interview room before acceptance? What do we coach our kids to say in those situations? I agree that adults auditioning kids should be more forthright, but what are we teaching them about how to communicate as they move forward in this career? I will bring up S’s “pre-” professional experience again. He is only one year beyond what all of you are going through. He has received very positive feedback at summer audition callbacks, and been told “You’re in. Just shoot us an email and we’ll work it out”, or “We think you would be perfect in our ensemble. We’ll send you something in writing in a few weeks”, only to get zero response to said email, nothing in writing ever shows up. He is in the position of having a few legitimate offers, and still hoping he will hear from some “enthusiastic” others. In the meantime, said offers are asking for commitment by X date (sound familiar? And yes, the lack of “promised” response does not feel good). Advice from his older peers on how to proceed is, “Say yes to whatever comes in. It doesn’t mean anything until you sign a contract”, or “Sign the contract. What are they gonna do to you if you change your mind?”. What kind of forthrightness is that? Yet that is the perceived expectation of how to go forward. This world is a tough one. People in the business don’t always say the truth. How do we teach our kids to navigate this and at the same time keep their positive attitude, self-respect and decent human character?

Congratulations, @clangirl!

And ugh, mom4bwayboy - I knew that in the professional arts world, effusive praise leading to nothing is common, but I didn’t realize actual promises of OFFERS with no follow-up were common too!

As for the question of what to do when you receive an offer for a role while waiting on another one: on Audition Update, people recommend contacting the one you’re waiting on and saying “I received another offer that would conflict with your project, and need to know whether to take it. Can you let me know if I’m still in consideration for your project, and when you’ll have a final decision? Thanks!” Productions understand that. If you don’t hear from them, then take the one you have - bird in the hand and all that.

Thanks @actorparent‌ - that’s the “honest” advice that S is following.

Has anyone had a rejection letter from Hartt? D is waiting and we are seeing acceptances stager in so was just curious. Also noticed that many of the acceptances listed on the other thread has most of the Hartt ones from Chicago Unified. Not sure if that means anything at all. My D auditioned on campus.

A huge CONGRATS to all the acceptances, enjoy the feeling. I just wanted to add my thoughts
it is difficult to switch from HS parent to college parent, but it is necessary. I think this type of forum is exactly the place to vent so that you can work through your emotions and then find a way to help your child navigate. But there are very few circumstances where you should ever contact the school and following up on auditions is a big no no for parents. These schools are building ensemble and what works on Monday may not be what they want on Tuesday. It is tough, but these rejections are not a rejection of your child’s talent or worth.

Thank you guys so much for all the well wishes yesterday!

Such a relief that one little email was. I feel like we all took a deep breath after being oxygen deprived for 6 months!

We did cancel the audition we had scheduled for this weekend - but kept No. Kentucky for next weekend because you never know! The kid wanted and deserved one Friday off 
 and I don’t blame her one bit.

We were chiding each other last night for both of us wanting just one more yes - just so she has a choice. At this point, there is one school that she did fall in love with (though she desperately tried not to - the heart wants what the heart wants!) that we have yet to hear back from. But even if that’s a no, she really likes SIU’s program and knows she would be quite happy there.

I cannot thank all of you enough enough for the immense amount of support we had here. This audition process is like no other - and no one in real life really gets it 
 but you guys do! And I really cannot give thanks enough!

:x

Yeah kakamom and d!!!

But i like matches as well so here goes:)

I view college as training. While training my d doesn’t want to hear what u think she wants to hear. She doesn’t want u to worry about being overly sensitive. She is more interested that you have a positive experience that is mutually beneficial.

During cmu auditions the accompanist and others in the vocal portion raved about her singing, commented that she was better than the broadway version, said they had never seen anyone with her range and diversity looked at her book to see what else was in there etc. After monologues Barbara sat and literally held my ds hands for a reported 10 minutes while they talked about ds background and experiences. In the end Barbara told her “it’s very clear what your strength is”. When the rejection letter came neither d nor I were put off. The message was clear
your singing is amazing
you need to work on your acting. Both sessions appeared to be honest specific, with some indirect feedback.

That was last year and the only school that d auditioned for mt. Otherwise she auditioned for vp and is loving her vp school of choice.

In my humble opinion it may be a blessing in disguise. If the culture of a particular collegiate program is such that they cannot or do not provide honest critique and feedback than maybe it’s not the correct learning environment to improve your craft.

Conversely processional jobs are not training platforms. They are job interviews. I would not expect anyone to provide feedback or affirmation or constructive critique during an interview. Your either offered the job
or your not. If anyone does offer such information
i believe it’s often more about making themselves comfortable and less about the auditioner/interviewee.

I don’t like fire
so I’m not going to brooch the tone/us versus them issue and instead just offer everyone a snickers