Class of 2019 (the journey begins) - Sharing,Venting, Etc

It’s all students not just MT. It’s because they’re so big. They get almost 30,000 applicants a year.

@Bogeyw - I am so sorry to hear about your D’s audition experience, but unfortunately I think it is not all that uncommon in the industry. My guess is that they really really loved her, but when they sat down to make their class they realized that your D didn’t fit the needs they had based on shows they planned to do, how many people of her “type” they already had at the school, height, look, whatever. My S did a number of professional auditions when he was young, and so many times someone from the casting team would come bursting out of the room and start excitedly asking me all sorts of questions about availability, how everything was going to work, etc. Then S would go to the callback and get more incredibly positive feedback, and then… crickets chirping. Usually they wouldn’t even let him know he hadn’t gotten it. It just seems like a really tricky business, and even when they get super excited about a kid, you just don’t know who walks into the door after you, or if they have already gotten just as excited about someone else before you and that is just the way they are. It seems you have to learn the hard way that no matter how much they seem to love you, you can’t count on anything until you get that offer in hand. And of course then there are those times where you walk out of the audition and think they weren’t the least bit interested, and BAM! you get a call the next day. Glad that you have some other great options, and tell your D that it probably won’t be the last time this happens to her!

I don’t know why Syracuse or others have yet to notify some students but I would hesitate to make the leap to it reflecting the quality of the program. I would say the same thing about issues encountered with students who lead tours who may not be particularly helpful, or financial aid office workers who are rude on the phone, or any type of less-than-positive experience dealing with the administration of a college. I have never seen any correlation between that type of thing and the actual quality of the program.

p.s. I am still awaiting a promised audition fee refund from CMU from 2003. :wink:

I second this lack of correlation. I found several of the admissions folks at D’s school a bit elitist and dismissive before she was admitted, but since then we have found everyone to be extremely helpful, patient and kind.

Yeah I never received a rejection or acceptance or Waitlist letter from BW MT and it’s been 4 weeks… I don’t get how that happens.

Got Emerson’s wait list today.

I agree with @SJBmab‌. My kid’s top choice has handled this entire process very professionally and it speaks volumes to us. The acceptance was an email to all students at once, not these phone calls or letters that trickle out and cause all of this “drama” on social media. The acceptance came shortly after all auditions were completed in February, so they did not drag this process out for months. Also,the email was very clear and concise. “Accepted” was in bold print and all caps, unlike a few other letters that we actually had to call the schools for clarification on. The initial acceptance letter was followed up with welcome letters from faculty in each department describing the curriculum and what would be expected of the students, and an offer to answer any questions we might have. We have commented several times that the organization and professionalism they exhibited in this process says a lot to us about this department.

@Patrice13 - do you mean Syracuse?

Syracuse was very up front (last year) about how their system would work- the multi week notification is their “thing”. Last year Ralph Zito- (head of bfa) said at accepted students that it wasn’t his 1st choice for how to do things- “but it’s my department, not my university”. Sometimes even the decision makers have to play by a larger set of rules. I really do think the fact that the last wave came 4/3 was unfortunate- but I would say with ANY school, don’t let admissions determine your impression of a school- you’ll never deal with them again

@Raam102 Yes I meant Syracuse. Sorry about that. I am really losing my mind. :-/

I’m in the “camp” of not feeling there is a correlation between a university’s admissions office and the quality of the college or the program. And as others have said, you never deal with admissions again once you are accepted.

I remember on our first visit, junior year, to Brown, with one of my kids. While waiting for the admissions information session, in the waiting room with other parents/students, who I noticed were browsing through an official brochure, I asked the receptionist if we could have a copy too, and she said we couldn’t because my D was only a junior. I thought that was very strange because college visits are appropriate for junior year, and we went to the expense and time to make the visit. However, my D ended up attending Brown and it was a fantastic four year experience in every respect. Luckily, we didn’t judge the school on something in the admissions office.

True about the admissions departments. But, a lot of these acceptances that are dragging out are being handled by the MT departments and have nothing to do with admissions. And, the example I gave was handled entirely by the MT department. The university admissions also sent info and letters, but I was only referring to what is done by the department to make sure everything was well organized and that the students felt welcomed.

I understand, truly. But I still don’t think it is a good measure of whether the student will be happy with the MT program once there. I recall several administrative snafus with the CMU Drama Department in our year in our situation and they were quite frustrating. Still, I believe they have a great program and had my kid gone there, there was a good chance it would be smooth sailing for four years. I truly commiserate with the way some schools handle admissions, but just saying that I would not make a correlation with that process and what the experience may be for the student when they attend. I realize now it is the only contact one may have, but I still wouldn’t gauge my decision to attend much with that aspect of the program.

Another day…another “no word from Hartt”

Seriously? We’re assuming a no–but would really like it confirmed!

I’m a little confused on the resurrecting of old threads and those being locked. Seems that the ones that get locked are ones that have someone saying something that may not be the most popular. Currently there is a thread going that is older than the one that was locked but is still allowed to have postings. Doesn’t seem consistent or fair. I hate to see a good productive discussion that can truly help others going through this process be locked. JMHO

I must say I was curious about that as well @bisouu. I know I commented on a thread about coaching today only because it appeared in my feed with current posts and questions. I thought everything being said was in a nice tone and quite helpful to people thinking of getting a coach. I had no idea that thread had been officially retired since it popped up today with new posts from several people. How do you know a thread has been retired so you don’t comment on it? Many of us go back quite a ways in the threads to search for information as there is so much good info out there. Are these retired threads noted some way so we know not to comment on them? Why are certain threads closed? Just curious.

@vvnstar I felt what you said was extremely helpful and it was a shame to have it shut down. The only thing I can surmise is that it wasn’t what people wanted to hear. Makes me hesitant to spend a lot of time responding if it’s just going to be negated by it being closed. Hope the new poster comes back and starts a new thread. I remember being a newbie and making tons of “no no’s” on here but I am tenacious and stuck around. Things like this can scare people off and make them not return. Such a shame.

I think it has to do with difference between a thread that’s been continuously added to for a long time, on a regular basis, versus one that has been moribund for a year or two and then brought back into play.

Pretty sure the moderators aren’t hanging around deciding whose opinions are “popular.”

Maybe, the one thread that wasn’t locked it older but hadn’t been touched for 7 months…the one that was locked is newer but wasn’t touched for about 14 months…still not understanding the difference. With this computer age they should just lock all threads automatically after a certain date.

I wouldn’t think so either! Just wasn’t sure how we know not to comment on something when it pops up in our feed :