Apparently some of the current CMU students have said that calls would come before the portal change- but who knows…
Does NYU take your grades into consideration before selecting you to audition (like Michigan) - Or when making the decision after your audition ?
The academic and artistic processes at NYU are separate. So you have to pass both, but the auditors at your audition don’t know if you have passed academically - unlike Michigan, which I believe (from reading CC, no direct knowledge) that you don’t pass prescreen if you are not qualified academically. Which i would say is NOT the same as academic admittance- I don’t know that they fully review your application etc- they check grades/scores as a benchmark. But auditors at NYU cannot choose who to admit until after academics are done. I have read about them going to bat for people they want who didn’t pass the academic bar- but idk how often that happens
Thanks- hoping her academics will finally aid her through this process.
The only rules are there are no rules. LOL. I was wondering if Carnegie would call before the portal change this year since it is Easter weekend. But last year our portal changed at midnight Friday, got the call over the weekend (Sunday I believe) and the letter showed up on Tuesday. (We’re in Texas so it had a ways to go). I guess we will see. Good luck to those waiting. Unfortunately it’s only half the battle. If you get in you’ve got to figure out a way to pay for it.
The biggest obstacle at NYU (even if clearing academicaly and artistically) to us would be the cost of attendance :((
@MTDadandProud @Guppie …truer words have not been spoken
You guys are so correct! The odds of getting in to these great programs are staggering. And the odds of getting a financial match along with (now that we are in the thick of it) the offer are 0.5%. Lololol! Not what we expected going in. Lots of scholarships out there, but the best programs know you will pay up. I am seeing the business side of this now. They have us where they want us, don’t they?
I good “list” should always have a financial “safety” - if such a thing exists. 
Agreed @mom4bwayboy ! The dilemma of “getting in” and not wanting that option now that the other exists. It will all work out for all of us. And our kids are learning great lessons about life what with rejections, redirections, financial decisions, navigating travel issues (NY blizzard anyone?), and more. Some people do not learn these until they are much older. They will have good survival skills!
We started saving for kids education before they were born. However, being able to pay X and willing to pay X can be different - that’s I’m struggling with regarding the options we have. There are no mathematical input for kid’s dream, prestige, future opportunities, and all other unknowns into this equation. This is an investment with no guaranteed return.
We also started saving before my S was born and it wasn’t enough, but good god, it helped. That’s my advice to anyone with kids, put money away even if it’s only a little, but every month. You cannot believe how many more doors open for your kids when you have a little put away for them.
Yep @mtmomofone to the NYC blizzard! And, yes @guppie regarding saving since birth. We have too - but given the cost of most of these schools - we will honestly be lucky to pay for one full year. That is so sad. Could we have saved more…not with our financial situation. Should we have - probably. But we DID save for 18 years. 
I am already planning this for little sibling and learning from CC on which schools are better financially.
Things we’ve realized since paying the first tuition bill for my daughter three years ago:
We don’t need magazine subscriptions
We don’t need cable
Hubbie cannot have the single-line phone service he loves…the family plan will do
The couches we bought when we got married look just fine…
So do the kitchen cabinets
Bye bye landscaper, we’ll do our own garden clean-up and mowing
Restaurant? What, they still have those?
I remember vacations…the photos of old trips will have to do
Name brands? Never. Not even the peanut butter.
I love my car, scratches and all
I could go on, but you get the picture. Now that second child is going, I fear more cuts ahead!
@claire74 - good for you and your family for being able to make the needed adjustments. I’m not sure I can convince husband to do so. And we have many friends that don’t seem to change lifestyle at all. We could get rid of cable too and a few other things…not sure it will put a dent in what is needed. But every little bit helps. Thanks!
@bfahopeful, ha, ha. We quickly realized there are a lot of things we don’t really care about. And we do care about our kids… so we don’t miss the Jif! Besides, they are going to be rich and famous, so they’ll pay us back, right? Right?
This is not how I feel. The investment for my kids, no matter the major, was about getting a college education. It is not all about how much money they may or may not earn as graduates. A college education provides an educated mind, which never goes to waste. A college education is a very good experience to have before entering into the full responsibilities of adulthood. A college education is really needed in today’s world to be able to get most jobs even if not what you majored in. It definitely costs a LOT of money, but to me, it is worth every penny. I never thought about its worth in terms of a “return” on the investment.
Yes, it is good to save for college! But many of us do not have all the funds on hand to pay for it outright. I am paying off my kids’ educations for an additional ten years post graduation.
And yes, some schools are super duper expensive, but the bottom line is the final price tag, which obviously varies from person to person. My D did go to NYU, a very expensive school, but got a substantial four year scholarship which helped. My other D went to an expensive college (Brown) and two expensive grad schools (MIT and Berkeley) and again, financial aid/scholarships brought the ticket price down by a lot (even though it was still quite costly).
@mom4bwayboy
There are many financial safeties but the kids have to recognize them as valuable! D wouldn’t hear of many of the less expensive but less known programs when this whole thing started. She figured that Montclair, Wright, Webster, Texas State were plenty of affordable safeties for the list. Even ccm was more affordable. She wouldn’t listen when I told her that is precisely why those programs are so competitive. Good AND affordable is an exciting combination.
Some of the only deals left these days are those 'hidden gems" that people have been writing about.
No doubt if you get into a “biggie”, people will find a way to pay, however.
My advice is to start early, say Sept, and understand that you still may be auditioning into March.
I agree with @soozievt that you cannot put a price tag on a college education. And keep in mind that there are VERY few majors where a Bachelor’s degree guarantees a good salary. Even graduate degrees…I know a lot of lawyers and others with advanced degrees out of work.
The bottom line is, you can’t put a price on passion. Sure, some of these kids could have gotten a BS in Finance and maybe make close to 6 figures when they graduate (like my nephew). Or rec’d a BS in Physics and get paid a living wage to go to graduate school (like my son). But would these MT kids be happy doing that? Probably not. And there are a lot of kids out there with BAs in psychology, anthropology, communications, marketing, English literature, etc. etc. who cannot get jobs. My advice to my D was, “If you can think of doing ANYTHING else and picture yourself being happy, do it. If this is the ONLY thing you can see yourself doing, then try.” She chose the latter, and it remains to be seen what will happen.
The decision re: how much to pay, how much to go into debt (if any) for a MT degree is a very, very personal one. There is no correct answer for everyone. And as has been said numerous times on this board, the degree in MT prepares them for a whole lot in the world. If they can’t make a living doing MT, they will simply do something else. The degree will never have gone to waste. And one thing is for sure…they will not make it in this business without the drive and the passion. So if your child has made it this far, they have SOMETHING that is driving them. And that can only be a good thing.
Wishing you all the best as you make your decisions and figure out how to pay for it. (P.S. Who needs cable when Netflix costs $8/month?)
@claire74 - my daughter gets told all the time that about being rich and famous! (“don’t forget about us!” haha) Your post gave me a smile.
@mtmcmt - I totally agree. My daughter was not interested in the couple in-state options that offer theater. And they truly do NOT have the program she wants. She was extremely particular and researched in where she applied in terms of the training she could receive. She didn’t apply just because everyone else was – in fact some of the schools she applied to were questioned by her director. But she knows what she wants. However, that left her a couple public out of state options and Webster as being the “cheapest”…and those still aren’t so cheap. I am so, so thrilled for my daughter to have options and that she is happy about them. However, I do look a bit longingly at her peers going to some in state schools that are less expensive. Although our largest state university is not actually that reasonable. Only some of the smaller schools (and, again, they just don’t have a program that holds any interest to my daughter). …sigh…
My daughter has applied for a few outside scholarships. Probably long shots - but am happy she at least tried.