My son has also released a few schools but doubtful it will immediately affect waitlist since they accept more than they need. Good luck to everyone in these final weeks
My kid will be releasing some schools this week.
Obviously one kid releasing one school doesnât mean one person off the waitlist but itâs really awesome of you guys to communicate the âeasy noâsâ this early - itâll help those schools plan their freshman class faster and that, in turn WILL help out the 2023 waitlist crew overall.
Question⊠the head of the MT dept emails your D and asks her to call him tomorrow. Thoughts? Why would anyone do that and make her wait? Haha Has anyone ever been told no on the phone? Just wonderingâŠ
@AGMomma wow⊠thatâs different!
I imagine sheâs either in (or heâs going to clarify her position on the waitlist.). I think itâs a good sign either way!!!
@AGMomma ⊠have they already been in phone contact? If not Sounds promising Bc if it was a no he could have just used the email to say no!
@jbrown He gave my D a FaceTime tour of their facilities because she auditioned at unifieds and couldnât visit their campus. So theyâve been in contact that one time, but thatâs all. I pray itâs a good sign. Who would possibly call in person to say no? I canât even imagine. Fingers crossedâŠ
@CaMom13 Thanks so much. Heâs still waiting to hear from some other schools. Then heâll choose two or three and visit them in April. Heâs releasing all but PP, OCU, and ShenCo. It will be a hard decision for sure!
@mauidad I agree that it may not have an immediate effect. But who knows? If enough people did it, it should allow someone to come off the waitlist (I think??). Anyway, it just seems like the right thing to do â for other kids and for the schools.
@mammameuh again congrats. Thanks for your reply.
@AGMomma I cannot imagine a scenario in which that is not good news. Please keep us posted!!
@mommyMT With 3 waitlist schools, I have to believe that something good is going to happen! But as @Kkrazie said, it will probably be a long, nail biting, six week wait. Ugh ? Hang in there and keep the faith. Thanks to âveteranâ parents, weâve heard so many encouraging stories about kids getting that exciting offer at the 11th hour. There are lots of prayers and âgood karmaâ floating around here. ?
@mommyMT per Dâs friend who is in WMUâs program currently, several of this yearâs incoming class were originally WL, so hereâs to hoping it is active again this year.
@âboola boolaâ OCU and PP were in the final mix for my D as well, and she attends PP. If you want to chat PM me.
Does anyone have any info on Univ of Oklahoma? We read here about an acceptance call last month but nothing since and itâs been crickets for my D since her audition in Chicago. Expecting a no at this point, but still curious.
@larken19 My daughter received a call in late February. Her brother has heard nothing.
Odd event today - D received an email with a WL for Elon. Very confused bc we were told Elon doesnât do WLâs. But, maybe they are trying something new.
@Divamamacita - I kind of wonder whether all the schools donât have to go to having some kind of waitlist. With talented applicants applying to so many schools itâs got to be hard for most of them (even super well regarded programs) to know what their yield will be like. Congrats on Dâs waitlist!
@larken19 We too are waiting on Univ of OK. Itâs totally been crickets! I had D email them last night to ask when we could expect notification. If they have called their yeses, what would be the delay? Are they making WL decisions? Have they not called all of their yeses? What gives? Itâs been since LA unifieds for us so definitely expecting a no at this point, but It was one of her favorite auditions so we just want closure, I guess. :-S
I agree with both @mauidad and @boola boola. Not all schools will have immediate activity based on releases from kids but alsoâŠevery bit helps - the sooner kids finalize, the sooner kids get off the wait list. There are two things that affect who comes off the wait lists at all schools, regardless of their selectivity. Offer yield and release count. Itâs actually counter intuitive but the lower yield schools need much more decline activity for someone to successfully come off the wait list. Smaller amounts of activity from the more selective schools actually yield quicker wait list movement. Here is an example with no school names included (fill in your own assumption about which schools these might represent in your specific case )
School A has a 96% yield meaning that 96% of the time kids receive an offer of acceptance, they wind up enrolling. To get a class of 12, they make 12 offers and mostly expect every kid to commit. 4% decline rate x 12 kids = .48 kids per year get an offer and donât wind up enrolling, choose another program etc. Since you canât measure partial kids, thats like saying about 5 out of every 10 years the school has to go to the wait list to make another offer. 5 out of 10 years, they get a class of 12 with 12 offers (and no wait list offers). I have heard on CC (no first hand knowledge) schools like this actually have a 1 for 1 paired wait list with each offer. A male baritone gets and offer, a male baritone gets a wait list. If first male declines, 2nd male gets off wait list. If a female soprano declines, a female soprano gets off the wait list. Whether this is true or not, these schools most likely do a 1 for 1 wait list. ONLY 12 offers go out, 1 kid decline = 1 kid getting off the wait list.
School B has a 60% yield meaning that 60% of the kids that receive an offer of acceptance wind up selecting that school as their final choice. The school guessing this yield based on prior years and trends year to year will make 20 offers to kids x 60% = 12 kids anticipated that they hope will wind up committing to that school as their final choice. The first 8 declines have little or no impact on the wait list. The 9th kid to decline now means the class is smaller than the school would like so they go to the wait list to take the next kid in line. If the school UNDER estimates how many kids will accept offers, then they are stuck with a bigger class than they would prefer and have to adjust offers the following year to balance out. I guess itâs a double edged sword that a lower yield school has to have more activity but their yield rate reflects that they DO have historical decline rates which is why they over offer. The use of the wait list only comes into play when they OVER estimate their yield in a given year.If their actual yield is 50% instead of 60%, they get 10 out of 20 kids so 2 come off the wait-list.
The math gets a little more complicated when you add singing part and gender but the basic concept is the same. If School B winds up with a class of 7 boys and 4 girls (maybe soprano dominated) and has to go to the wait list, they will likely skip any boy on their list and make an offer of their top choice girl (maybe an alto) and try to balance the class.
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My D has heard nothing from Elon or Wagner. I know that kids have received calls for acceptances and emails for rejections but this is the first Iâve heard of a waitlist for Elon⊠Congrats for your D! This waiting is brutal=0
@mommyMT and @larken19 I donât know about Univ OK MT, but D received a wait list for drama last week, I think Thursday. Weâre in Oklahoma, so the mail was probably delivered next day here. She was at auditions last Saturday, and it looked like they also had some musical theatre auditions happening at the same time.