To address a few questions. Yes, people are rejected in the first round EA. On CC you tend not to hear about many. In the real world they exist. Before asking don’t think anyone knows how many.
OOS financial aid/merit. Merit is extremely hard to come by either instate or OOS. But Michigan has many plans to help families afford Michigan and yes… Even OOS families. Might not get the same as instate but it can be a large enough amount to afford Michigan based on your individual situation.
@AndrewTC1 You sound like a perfect student for Michigan- you’ve gone beyond- your school offers 7 APs, but you found a way to take 9. Your school doesn’t weight GPA and you have a 4.0. You spent your summer further broadening your education. And you volunteer in your community.
Bring from a rural community, I can guess that your school doesn’t offer the kind of rigor necessary to get 1400 SAT scores. If I were you, I’d keep my score to myself when you get to A2 and take advantage of all tutoring, math and English and continue to challenge yourself academically. Your test scores are personal and a lot of people exaggerate them anyway. The first semester may be a challenge, but you’ll learn from it and rise up to it! Stay curious!
Oh, I’m perfectly OK with it, @Knowsstuff . If it’s meant to be, it’s meant to be. Unlike some other alums, I’m not convinced that there aren’t just as great schools as Michigan. I’m not happy that for us OOS parents, who are upper middle to middle class, it costs an arm and a leg to attend Michigan. My friend’s kid got in two years ago, and he’s a double legacy. Michigan gave them nothing and now he attends Journalism school at Mizzou and couldn’t be happier. We were talking about how it is close to criminal that with a $12B endowment, Michigan can’t find a way to lower tuition for everyone that needs it. Sorry for the rant.
My DD got accepted to Wisconsin today and she’s happy about that. That makes ASU’s Honor College (full tuition ride!), Oregon’s Honor’s College (partial scholarship), and Wisconsin. UC decisions to come. She will end up where it’s meant to be and I’m sure will love college.
FWIW, I was super impressed with Barrett Honors College at ASU and they really want her, rolling out the red carpet for us.
Deferred
OOS (MN)
LSA for Math
Ross
4.0 UW Michigan Scale
33 with 36 on math (34 superscore)
Just got 780/800 on physics/math 2 but on December test.
Idk, Michigan’s OOS acceptances for EA feel random. Not sure how much one ACT point could’ve helped as math is already maxed. I’m a tad frustrated, so if someone can help spot weaknesses in my application, please comment on my most recent Chance Me.
I was deferred 2 years ago during the EA round at Michigan LSA. I was very upset to say the least. 3 weeks later in Jan, I was not only offered admission but a merit scholarship as well. So hang in there and don’t lose hope. I know how it feels.
My brother on the other hand applied EA to engineering this year and was accepted . I dont know if there is a difference between deferrals/ acceptances in Engineering vs LSA. Both of us had similar GPAs and scores (5s in STEM APS, college level courses, 35-36 ACT, research, and great ECs)
So for those who got deferred, my advice is not to lose hope, stay positive, finish up the rest of your RD applications. Things will sort out sooner than you think. I was a mess when this happened, I dont want you guys to go through the same thing!
Good luck and remember things eventually work out, even though its hard to believe me now!
@sbdad12 Congrats to your D on admission to Wisconsin, ASU and Oregon. Those are all outstanding schools. I couldn’t agree more with your comments. As a Michigan alum, I can honestly say there are definitely schools out there with as much if not more school spirit, high quality academics, and opportunities during school and after graduation. Penn State jumps to mind. I have attended the white out football games there and it hands down beats the atmosphere at the Big House IMHO. Penn State’s alumni association is also second to none in terms of support for graduates, networking, etc. and they are ranked #2 for graduating Fortune 500 CEOs. My student has been accepted at PSU with a scholarship and we are leaning that way. We are still weighing whether to continue the process with Michigan (we probably will - we have come this far). However, the admissions process so far as been murky at best - some deferred students asked for HS transcripts while others asked to have counselor upload grades to Common/Coalition app. Why the difference? Deferred students have to write another essay (“thank you sir may I have another?”) and then will be evaluated against RD applicants who are not writing a 5th essay - how does that work and why make MORE work for admissions staff? Course rigor and GPA stressed as being very important in the holistic admissions process, yet students from our school who did not pursue the IB diploma (and all the additional work and requirements) were admitted over IB diploma candidates with similar GPA and test scores. My student wrote essays that were genuine, lightly edited, and reflected the perspective, hopes, and dreams of a 17 year old, and my child is very proud of those essays. My student worked their butt off for 4 years in challenging courses and achieved the highest marks (like pretty much all other applicants). My student did their best to prep for the SAT while balancing school, athletics, and community service. Due to struggles with test anxiety and standardized tests in general, they have lower (although still strong) scores. TBH, Michigan was a reach, so being deferred isn’t a surprise, but we are struggling to understand and quite frankly accept the process. That said, college admissions has a luck factor and no one ever claimed it was fair - at Michigan or any other school. In the end, Michigan could care less if an applicant walks away (in fact they appear to be encouraging that rather than just denying applications). They have plenty of highly qualified applicants to choose from. My student is looking for a school that appreciates the person they are and I am confident they will find a place and be successful wherever they land and that is what counts. And as a Michigan alum, I love that my child’s reaction to all of this was to say “maybe now I can cheer for a football team that actually wins big games.”
@Lawmama91 Ouch ?. Tell us how you feel ?.. Lol…
I think Michigan failure is being a product of its success. You tell me how a school with continuing higher application yearly makes it more fair? They can’t take everyone that applies. I really don’t know. I personally think with the new software system being used you will see more denies much earlier. We started seeing that last year. Schools like Georgia Tech also asks for a written statements if the student wants to go on to the next phase. This way they can review the applicants that truly want to be there. Lots of applicants yearly hang on “just to see” if they get accepted then if they get any money. Trust me, I get that. But with around 40,000 EA applications and accepting usually around 8,000 EA (but let’s say only 4,000 accept) then there’s only around 2800 spots left. Personally, I think the yield also might be higher this year.
Everyone will read this and say that, that speaks to their child… That inlays the problem. Just too many great candidates ?. That to me is encouraging. Congratulations on Penn State!
Didn’t really mean it to come off that way, but clearly it did. Oh well. Yeah, the whole thing is frustrating. My intent was to share a perspective with others in a similar situation. Michigan is not the be all end all. It is what you do with a degree that matters. @RaLaSrSa you are an admitted student on the other side of the process. Exhibiting some graciousness toward those not in your situation wouldn’t hurt. Plus, can anyone really disagree with the comment about the football team? @Knowsstuff - thank you for your perspective. WE ARE!
@Lawmama91 - I completely understand your frustration. Had my son not been accepted 3 days ago, we would be feeling the exact same thing. As much as our counselor tried to prepare us (and we kept reminding our son) that deferral would be more likely than EA acceptance, it’s a tough pill to swallow and incredibly disappointing based on the years of effort and doing all the expected things. I will say that many of the kids from our high school last year who were deferred at UofM ended up being accepted and are now attending. We are OOS (CA) and so far the deferrals I have heard about from our school (6-7) were all very high stat/ more than qualified kids. Quite a few of those deferrals were students who did not have UofM as their top choice (deferred or rejected from Ivy schools or similar). So as much as it sucks to have to write yet another essay, it is a way for the school to further suss out the students that truly want to be at UofM. This whole application process has gotten a bit out of control imho, kids applying to 10-14 schools when he/she can only say YES to ONE is crazy to me. But with # of applicants, the competition level, reach/ match/ safety consideration that is now required - it is what it is. It’s not fun, it’s disenchanting and it can be so disappointing. I don’t feel like you sounded sour - you were being honest and vulnerable and expressing the let down of this temporary decision. But remind yourself it is temporary and there could very well be a YES in the end. I wish you luck and am sending positive vibes your way☺️
@lxhao2000 - A day or so before decisions were released, someone posted a link to an application status page that had required materials (transcripts, test scores, etc) listed as received/not received. Some people had an ‘X’ next to final high school transcripts, meaning Michigan had not received them. These students were accepted. Those who did not have final high school transcripts listed on the page were not accepted.
I agree with you. Michigan cannot win that ONE big FOOTBALL game against OSU. PSU (and MSU) is not a big FOOTBALL game for Michigan. However, Michigan leads the PSU series 14 wins, 9 losses. And Michigan has won the last 3 out of 5 FOOTBALL games against PSU.
Now as for soccer, rowing, hockey, water polo, tennis, basketball and a myriad of other sports, Michigan is 2nd only to Stanford in last year’s Director’s Cup standings (consists of 20 sports, both men and women).
A buddy of mine is a PSU alum, we love to argue about this topic almost everyday. ?
