any update on when EA applicants to LSA hear back about their decisions if they were deferred? Thanks!
Culture is hard to quantify, but it seems most Michigan students have a negative view that Ross undergrads are more self-serving, shallow, and entitled/privileged. To be fair, a lot of rhetoric in this regard is employed in a joking matter. A lot of what people make fun of Michigan for (students from upper âmiddleâ class backgrounds, people wearing Canada Goose parkas and airpods, Greek Life, narcissistic tendencies), can definitely be found significantly more at Ross than other undergrad schools. I doubt you will see many current or recent Michigan students deny that.
It does not help, that stuff like this happens (I personally witnessed this, as I was in one of the intro marketing course sections): https://www.michigandaily.com/section/business/students-behavior-surrounding-tide-pods-threatens-ross-business-relationship
Does Ross have a culture problem? Yes. Is this found at other top undergrad business schools that are feeders to Wall Street and the like? Also yes. You will find a similar thing with culture going on at schools like Wharton, Stern, and Haas. That being said, not all Ross students are like this. I have several friends from Ross, and they are some of the best people one can be friends with - and I am grateful to know them.
If you are going to take classes at Ross, be prepared for a different vibe (especially if you are taking a class that is a BBA section class, not a class for non-business students). It will be clique-y. Students seem to sit by whichever social fraternity, business fraternity, and/or an almost-fraternity student org (like Nexecon) they are in. You kind of see the same with some LSA classes, but to a much lesser extent, and usually only for large intro classes. Keep in mind that each year of BBAs is separated into âsectionsâ, which makes a pretty small school at Michigan even smaller.
Yikes⊠Thank goodness for the engineering students ??.. L
@yikesyikesyikes - interesting Ross feedback, much appreciated.
I appreciate all of the comments on the Ross school, I think that they are very helpful! I, like many others of you, have gotten deferred from LSA. I was talking with my college counselor yesterday and she told me that UMich does not deny anyone first round, even if you were to be super unqualified. This is so they can get a full picture of the class when they postpone your app and move it to regular. To be honest, I think that that system is pretty dumb and lacks the care/concern for the average student. The whole point of applying EA is to get a decision EARLY not regular. However, Michigan does not care one bit what we think. For all of you that got deferred, follow up with your UMich admission representative on where your app fell short and how you can make yourself more of a competitive candidate. In all honesty, things will work out the way they do and you will end up at a school that is right for you. Good luck and God bless to all!
Check post #1844.
Sorry didnât get around to posting this earlier.
DD accepted EA
Supposed to be IS but somehow got bumped to OOS (we are still trying to figure out how that happened and itâs being corrected)
LSA RC
4.0 uw, 4.2 w
1420 SAT
Full IB, most academically challenging public school in Mich.
Great CAS project, recs and clubs
State debate champ
Visited campus for admissions review day
Not sure about the x was away from home that day and missed all the drama
Thanks for sharing the Grade Guide!!! I did not know this existed. Can you share the link for the ross curve policy. Is this stated on the site somewhere.
Sure thing, here is the link to Rossâs grading policies for BBAs (basically applies to any undergrad Ross core or elective class - there are different curves for core and elective classes):
https://www2.bus.umich.edu/MyiMpact/academics/bba-grading-scales-distribution
The Grade Guide is a fantastic resource, and can show you how those policies actually have manifested over the years.
Thatâs for RossâŠWhat about for LSA?
edit: never mind figured it out lol
I agree, but I wish they would update it with more current data from 2018 and 2019. Do you know if and when it will be updated?
Just curious but does UMich look at all of the deferred EA applications before considering regular?
Sorry Iâm late to the thread. What are you talking about re the x?
For early action, can we expect a decision by 5 AM or do we have to wait till 7 PM?
@Aerschaf EA is long over
Is Michigan need blind in OOS admissions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need-blind_admission
Wiki says need blind for in-state only.
@2022soon Found under âHow Aid is Awardedâ
"The University of Michigan has made a commitment to meet the demonstrated institutional financial need of Michigan resident undergraduates who meet all application deadlines. Need-based scholarships and grants, loans, and Work-Study funds are awarded to eligible in-state students whose Cost of Attendance exceeds their familyâs financial resources.
Non-resident students and resident students who do not qualify for need-based aid may wish to apply for departmental or private scholarships and supplemental loans to cover the cost of attendance."
As @sushiritto found on Wiki, the above basically says they are NOT need blind for OOS students. I think many OOS students do not realize this.
âneed blindâ is only whether a college considers your need in deciding to accept you. It does not mean that they are committing to fund you. There are lists of colleges that commit to need blind and funding, but the two do not always go together.
I think U of M has been clear that they have a commitment to help finance ISS that is greater than for OOS. But they still may be need blind in the admission process.
The last public comment I found was in 2011, when they said they were. I donât recall my kid having to check a box on whether they would be applying for aid at Michigan. He did have that box on some of the other schools (it was part of the common app for those schools).