There should always be at least two officers/officials anyway- regardless of sex or gender. That just seems like good policy.
I’m surprised they haven’t located them by tonight.
The escaped killer’s options are to hunker down and wait to be captured, steal a car and eventually have to get gas and risk being spotted, break into a house and order the family to hide them, or contact friends and ask them to come and get them.
I think seven years is a small price to pay for the havoc she has wreaked.
If, God forbid, they commit a murder while they’re out she should be charged as an accessory.
I don’t know if I believe the husband was an accomplice, as the news is gleefully reporting. It would make sense that he is being questioned at length about his wife’s movements and behavior over the last few months. What husband would be happy to have his wife having sex with two inmates?
In VA we had six death row inmates escape from a high security prison in 1984. Two of them were brothers who had murdered twelve people, including a four year old boy between 1971 and 1979. All were recaptured within nineteen days. I still remember the craziness while they were missing.
Exactly. What did she think was going to happen when she was helping them? That they’d go off and teach Sunday School?
ETA: These are the nice fellows she helped:
I hope we can all agree now that this female tailor does not represent all women, and that women have a right to apply and be hired for these jobs at prisons.
I am surprised these sniffer dogs haven’t found their trail. I can guess that they were picked up in a car or hopped on a boat or ferry which would explain why they are no longer traceable. I am pretty far from the edge of Lake Champlain, but you can be sure I double checked my locks each night this week.
The two escapees are probably long gone from NY and located somewhere like Florida where there are so many transients where they could blend in. They are probably split up by now. If they get cornered in Florida they likely won’t come out alive…cops don’t like cop killers.
Upstate New York is pretty wild with many remote cabins. You could hide up there for a while.
If they are anywhere other than NY I’d think Canada is the more likely scenario since it is very close and easy to get across boarder in such a rural area.
Personally, I think they are hiding somewhere not to far from Dannemora. They eventually will get hungry enough to try something stupid or conflict between the two will cause one to give up.
H bet on today as the day but it won’t get announced until Andrew can get to Dannemora and hold a presser (which will be what will happen whenever they are found.) Neither the Commissioner of Corrections or the Superintendent of Dannemora have been seen or heard from at all since the escape. I imagine they have already been notified of their terminations, though not publicly.
Article on how the escape could happen.
http://www.timesunion.com/news/article/How-the-system-failed-in-escape-6325929.php#page-3
Emily, your insight into all of this is much appreciated.
Emily it sounds like the Governor of NY has the second most out of control ego in the area.
No one, but no one, beats the Gov of NJ. But the last time I brought him up, I got in trouble, so – I’ll just say I agree with @tom1944.
Meanwhile, back to prison escapes!!
They are not going to give up on these guys. They will continue to search until they find them. I sure hope it happens soon.
It’s black fly season. I hope she gave both of them enough bug spray.
Clearly we should be staffing all men’s prisons with militant lesbians. It’s the only way to be sure…
“No one, but no one, beats the Gov of NJ. But the last time I brought him up, I got in trouble, so – I’ll just say I agree with @tom1944.”
Yes, he is second to Christie but they are often also in cahoots (see the Ebola debacle and right before that a presser they had together announcing big increase in Homeland Security presence around the metro area - which was all but forgotten when “Ebola crisis” became all the rage." But at least Andrew had the sense to back off after Christie went all in on the nurse.
This is a good article into the way Andrew operates. http://www.timesunion.com/tuplus-local/article/Cuomo-rescue-trucks-costly-exercise-in-futility-6121331.php
Of course I neither said nor implied that did “represent all women,” but it is still probably going to be a minority of women who will be suitable to work in such a prison – for a whole variety of reasons. But someone with self-image issues should be eliminated, and there clearly should be psychological screening, not to mention a training bar to pass handsomely before being actually employed. She would have FAILED any appropriately rigorous screening process.
And good job by the incompetent and/or lazy guards, all male, for not doing the checks.
Absolutely.
As do I. And I think her wages should be partially attached by the government for the rest of her life, to reimburse for what this manhunt is causing. I am lacking in sympathy for her. I don’t care what her “issues” were. She’s just one step above government political traitor, i.m.o. She betrayed the criminal justice system, and without any justification. Shame on her.
Having lived in this part of the state (Keeseville, NY) for the better part of my younger life I can certainly attest to the remoteness of the areas near this prison. There are probably hundreds of empty camps and the forests are thickly populated with mostly pine trees. Lots of places to hide for sure.
I now live about 3 hours south of this area and I can agree that prisons are a huge employer here in Upstate NY. Once the factories started shutting down the prisons became a major employer (there are 2 large prisons in my immediate area, a 3rd shut down in the last several years). I wouldn’t say that 50% of the local population is employed by the prison system in my area but 20% may be a good guess. Pay is very good and benefits are excellent for the guards that work there.
To the point of a woman being allowed to work with male prisoners like this I would say this much, much less an issue than the question of how is ANYONE, male or female, working with maximum security inmates able to pass off hacksaws and various other potential weapons to inmates without anyone witnessing or stopping it? Why aren’t prison employees subject to metal detectors upon entrance each day? And even failing that, why would they be left alone for the pass off. Something is very rotten in Denmark here and I sense we are not being told everything. I imagine there was a lot more involvement from other staff at the prison than we are being told about. If that is not the case then we have reason to worry about prisons all over the place because some very rookie mistakes are being made as far as security goes. Hardly “maximum” security.
I can only hope they find these guys. It is worrisome to me that by now they could have easily made their way to my area in some way shape or form but like others I feel they probably are a little smarter than that and are somewhere where they are more likely to blend in.
Whoops. Meant “costing,” but “causing” is also not irrelevant!
@MomOf3Stars
I largely agree with you, but maybe I didn’t make the point here but another discussion forum. Not only all the business about the enabled cooperation, but the stupid rule about who gets to go to Honor Block. A known psychopath will deliberately manipulate good behavior JUST SO he can get privileges JUST SO he can be in a better position to manipulate and even perhaps to escape. This is just the biggest DUH. So unless there’s a powerful prison guards union (there probably is), the watchers who were not watching or chose to enable should be fired, and after that the policies about prison sections should also be changed to exclude vermin like Matt. This was a disaster all around waiting, just waiting, to happen.