College like UPenn

vanderbilt, duke, smu, case western, purdue? (noturban but a good engineering program / shake up)

pk1jk1: Have you applied to schools with rolling admissions so you have acceptances in your pocket? It is a little worrisome that you were rejected and not deferred in the Penn ED round. Your numbers are competitive (GPA is a little low for top schools). You really need to have safeties you love.

For urban, engineering and research:

Ga Tech
Pitt
Case Western
Ohio State
Northeastern
U Miami (suburban)
U Minnesota
Maryland (suburban)
Delaware (small city but close to Philadelphia and Baltimore)

Not urban: Penn State, Alabama, Florida

@quakerstake ya, my high school is pretty competitive so it is not out of the ordinary. Are these safeties that you have listed?

Drexel and Temple

I put together an undergraduate engineering research ranking for you.

I decided others may be interested on the information, so I posted it as an independent thread.

Feel free to ask questions.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/1945178-engineering-undergrad-research-ranking-based-on-nsf-fellowsip-data-p1.html?new=1

Do you know what branch of engineering you are interested in?

Best of Luck!

@Mastadon Thank you so much!!! I am currently interested in computer engineering or aerospace engineering but leaning towards computer.

You also might want to look into schools that give students access to Penn - e.g., Swarthmore, Haverford, Drexel, etc. Not sure what the restrictions or eligibility rules are (you’ll have to look at both Penn and the other colleges’ websites), but Haverford has a 4+1 program with Penn which results in a masters in engineering from Penn, for example.

I think the schools I listed above would be realistic. Ga Tech would be a harder admit OOS than the others, but is close to the top nationally in computer and aerospace engineering (better than Penn).

Unless you really want to be in the Philadelphia area, Swarthmore and Haverford are liberal arts colleges and very different than Penn. You can’t expect to be spending much time at Penn instead of your own school. Drexel is a fine engineering school and borders on Penn’s campus but I just think that someone who had his heart set on Penn would feel disappointed going there instead. I’d look at other cities.

@tlospar @quakerstake At this point, I wont be applying to schools in the Penn area. Even though I wanted to go to Penn, I understand that I can potentially get a great undergraduate engineering education even without the supplement of Penn or the Philly area.