<p>CGM,</p>
<p>Women can vote in Iran, as well. </p>
<p>Who should I thank for that?
Khomeni?</p>
<p>CGM,</p>
<p>Should I thank Khomeni as well (remember, he was quite a little radical himself–real big on “progressive” social change), or not…still waiting. : )</p>
<p>Please that was a pathetic response, but I should have expected it…</p>
<p>it is great when women can vote anywhere…woohoo, your wit is truely amazing…what is your point?</p>
<p>you don’t have any thoughts about the women in this country who were tortured for your rights…if you don’t even more pathetic</p>
<p>“George Bush = Osama Bin Laden?”</p>
<p>No, I don’t think they are equivalent in all ways, nor are the others. I feel silly writing this answer.</p>
<p>
Madam, heres the point. </p>
<p>Many people can do many things in our time that they could not do at various points in history. The world changes; it evolves, if you will. A particular social phenomenon reaches critical mass. Such phenomenon also tends to have leaders, many cranky, many good. The 20th century was the time women <em>around the world</em> were publicly enfranchised to elect representatives to their governments. <a href=“http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/indicators.cfm?x=264&y=1&z=1[/url]”>http://hdr.undp.org/statistics/data/indicators.cfm?x=264&y=1&z=1</a>
Some put in more effort than others but it is not at all clear to me that I should express my gratitude in this matter by being deferential to a woman now living in San Francisco, in 2006
how old are you, anyhow?!? </p>
<p>That is to say, referencing Vossrons problem, that this equation (equation: root of equivalent in the sense that Christian fundamentalism and Muslim terrorists are not equivalent–even if it would make your world simpler) does not hold water:</p>
<p>CGM = International Womens Suffrage </p>
<p>Im from Canada. Women there received the right to vote before Women in America; Women in America, before **Women in Iran<a href=“where%20I%20can%20also%20vote”>/b</a>. Curiously, Wyoming and Utah were the first to grant women the right to vote in modern America, 1869. The rest of the country did not follow that lead until 1920. </p>
<p>As I understand it, Wyoming and Utah are now considered VERY RED STATES perhaps they are just mean ingrates, as you say you ought to give them a good slap!</p>
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<p>SO, do you vote in Canada? I didn’t ask if you vote here…do you vote anywhere?</p>
<p>You blather quite a bit, but say nothing…</p>
<p>Currently, Wyoming and Utah are red states,not always so, btw</p>
<p>I never said to thank me, but hey go ahead</p>
<p>I enjoy how you flounder around, twist people’s words, and come across as panicky instead of clever</p>
<p>So, do you vote? Simple question…I am pretty sure Canada has election, and you must be getting close to the voting age…I checked its 18!!!</p>
<p>And sorry if I assumed you were an American, your posts make it sound like you are, my error, you seemed to defend my government so much, I assumed it was yours as well…</p>
<p>And FS, i must apologize, I did not realize I was talking to a liberal!!!</p>
<p>Welcome to the club</p>
<p>I read you hate racism, and you do all you can to stop…that is admirable</p>
<p>Thank you for that…what is it you do?</p>
<p>CGM,</p>
<p>Do you mean besides all the work my family has done to help refugees? Even received a commendation from former Prime Minister Jacques Chretien…wait,…yikes! of the Liberal Party.</p>
<p>My Father was the editor of the Multicultural, in Montreal, and I spent a good part of my youth living in a public charity that served people from every continent except Antartica. We ate and slept with people from different parts of the world on a daily basis, most of them were refugees looking for a bit of help after arriving in North America.</p>
<p>In high school I was chairperson of the Multicultural committee, even though, by then, most of my actual time and effort had shifted towards working with students with disabilities. To that effect, I spent two summers working in the University of Michigans Department for Students with Disabilities, amongst various other engagements from camps to schools. I learned a good deal. It sparked my interest in ethics and medical ethics.</p>
<p>There is more, but this gets boring; I dont generally post on the What I have done to save the world threads. I leave that to those who feel that peculiar need to talk about it.</p>
<p>I wont ask what you have done, as Im sure, based on past experience, that it will be peppered through most of you posts anyhow.</p>
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<p>Wow, that paints quite a different picture than the FS who posts here. Pundits say that the Internet’s anonymity sometimes results in rudeness by otherwise pleasant people; I hope that’s the case here. </p>
<p>FS, you do more than I for the less fortunate; bravo. May your future posts reflect your thoughtful, caring activities.</p>
<p>You are a liberal, FS ,who constantly puts down liberals…whose parents are liberals…
and do you vote?</p>
<p>and if you have been here forever, fine, but do you vote in canada</p>
<p>that is the first step to making change</p>
<p>This is so tiresome. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, in Canada:
</a> There are exceptions for those serving overseas in the military or those engaged in UN activities or diplomacy. We have no residence in Canada.</p>
<p>Is there anything else, CGM, out of gratitude for all that you have done to make this world a place where I can marry who I want (what on earth does that mean?), vote and presumably stand upright, that I should have to answer to you for? Blood type? is this Senator McCarthy, redux?</p>
<p>In any case, I am not really what you would call a liberal; I am what you should call reasonable and realistic. There is a vast divide between the two. To my way of thinking, I am classically liberal; that is, I value and preserve (conserve) culture, civility and human dignity against those storming the ramparts with incivility, barbarism and nihilism. I am not tribal in any sense; therefore I do not think I would fit into your fashion of liberal. </p>
<p>There are of course those who believe that to be a good person any other person would have to be the same as they are: Liberal/Conservative–Democrat/Republican–theist/atheist.
-I do not. </p>
<p>I believe good people are good people <em>because they are good</em>…not because they are liberal or Republican, etc. You clearly disagree. To me, you are on a slippery slope, a mud-slide that inevitably leads to hate, anger…and hysteria, as the case may be.</p>
<p>Still, as these things go, I am what many would term a Burkean Conservative (as he lived long ago, youll need to look it up on wikipedia). I do not, however, think Burkean conservatives are good, or better I just think that an honest effort can lead one to goodness.</p>
<p>Here, maybe this will help: <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke</a></p>
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<p>How do you know what I all a liberal? You hve NO clue what I call a liberal…I never said conservatives were bad people…where did I say that…you lve putting words in other peoples mouths</p>
<p>As for Canada, who knew that your family has no place at all to vote…doesn’t seem right…</p>
<p>So do you plan on ever votng? Takng part in the democratic process in any country? You don’t have to answer, that is for you to decide yourself</p>
<p>The most important thing a person can do is vote, even iwht all its inherent problems, voting is a responsibllity no matter where you live, if you have the right, it must be used</p>
<p>You call liberals names allthe time, by the way, with cute little adjectives.<br>
I at least am honest</p>
<p>Burke was known as the ‘Dinner Bell’ to his contemporaries because MPs would leave the chamber to look for dinner when he rose to speak. After years of such declamation, the anticipation of his longwinded eloquence led his peers to salivate as soon as he rose to speak.</p>
<p>There is a great deal more to do to help your fellow man than voting, as those below voting age, immigrants and those who live in countries that deny them the vote well know.</p>
<p>I oppose racism. You say that makes me a liberal. </p>
<p>For this reason, to the degree that you say or believe me to be a liberal, you have indeed <em>defined</em> liberal; inasmuch as, in your world only liberals are allowed to oppose racism. If what you say is what you believe, you live in a small and prejudiced world. I feel sorry for you.</p>
<p>My disposition is conservative and classically Liberal. I’m afraid thats the way it is. It’s part of our political “diversity”, you see.</p>
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