College options for a PERFECT SCORER

<p>If you’re applying with the class of 2006, don’t you have to take the new SAT I? I know that a few schools will accept the old one but I think most won’t.</p>

<p>I don’t want to take the new SAT I,
I may sound too iterative, but anyone please suggest some really good UG business schools that will accept the old (i.e. current) SAT I scores and could award me a FULL TUITION WAIVER considering my PROFILE (that’s post 1, page 1)</p>

<p>Thanks, Thanks, Thanks</p>

<p>i dont think the fact that you took the old sat 1 would effect you much. you should be fine.</p>

<p>this is what i would do if were you:</p>

<p>check <a href=“http://www.usnews.com%5B/url%5D”>www.usnews.com</a>. see what universities from the top 50 interest you the most. check out the top 50 ranked liberal arts colleges too. then go to <a href=“http://www.review.com%5B/url%5D”>www.review.com</a> and <a href=“http://www.xap.com%5B/url%5D”>www.xap.com</a> and <a href=“http://www.collegeboard.com%5B/url%5D”>www.collegeboard.com</a>. these three sites will give you more specific info on each college/university you are interested in. when you narrow down your search more, start emailing the schools youre looking at. tell them what you originally posted on this board. tell them you took the old sat1, too. theyll help you more than most people on this board. call them if you have too. </p>

<p>i think usnews ranks undergrad biz programs, that will help a lot. anything ranked lower than usc would be very reasonable for you.</p>

<p>good luck, this process is going to take you some time and effort.</p>

<p>MrTrojan,</p>

<p>I’ll totally abide by your advice.</p>

<p>What are my chances with a FULL TUITION WAIVER at all UCs and USC ? (it’s California because of the favourable Indian like climate)</p>

<p>Since you are a student of USC,
I’d like to know more about yourself, your SAT scores, ECs, amount of financial aid, etc.</p>

<p>ucla, ucb both MIGHT give you aid. im pretty sure usc, uci, ucsb, ucd, ucsd will all give you a lot of money, if not a full tution waiver. i doubt stanford or caltech would give you aid, but try anyway, i could be wrong. </p>

<p>check out these schools too: claremont mckenna, pomona, harvey mudd, scripps, pitzer. these are liberal arts colleges which only have like 2000 students each. they are still really good and probably will give you lots of aid.</p>

<p>im actually a transfer student. i had a poor sat 1 score of 1210 out of high school. sats are suppose to be a good indicator of how well you are suppose to do in college…ya right, how wrong is the college board? i went to uci for 2 yrs before transfering. i had a 3.5 at uci. lots of ec’s: fraternity, one cultural social club, one cultural charitable club, two honor societies, student government, and work. i was involved in all. it might not sound like much, but its a lot for a college student, especially while getting good grades at a competive school like uci. i prabably spent a little under $20,000 supporting myslef totally out of pocket, at uci. usc didnt give me a very good financial package, only about 5,000, probably b/c i missed the deadline by about…6 months (oops). they probabaly would have given me more if i hadnt missed the deadline. uci never gave me aid, and i hated the people at their financial aid office. i should have about 15,000 coming in from outside scholarships, maybe more if i get my lazy a$$ up and start applying again. </p>

<p>take your sat 2’s as well, if you have not already.</p>

<p>Thanks MrTrojan (are you a CA resident ?)
Anyway, are the liberal arts colleges and community colleges (as called here in India) actually the same</p>

<p>With your scores, interests and needs, I’d definitely recommend Claremont McKenna College (<a href=“http://www.mckenna.edu%5B/url%5D”>www.mckenna.edu</a>).</p>

<p>no, liberal arts colleges and community colleges are not the same. liberal arts colleges are a lot better, dont even consider community college. community college is designed for people who want to transfer out of it in 2 yrs to a better uni. </p>

<p>i would not recommend liberal arts colleges for 2 reasons: you can do better, and they dont have business majors.</p>

<p>but check them out if you want, they are allright. though i think the reputation for most liberal arts colleges are over rated on this discussion board. the UC’s usually have a better reputaion in ‘real world’, mostly b/c they are better known and they are more uc graduates in cali. they are also private, whcih means they are expensive. here are the best liberal arts colleges in california : <a href=“The Claremont Colleges Services – The Claremont Colleges Services (TCCS) is the central coordinating and support organization for a highly regarded cluster of seven independent colleges known as The Claremont Colleges located in Southern California.”>The Claremont Colleges Services – The Claremont Colleges Services (TCCS) is the central coordinating and support organization for a highly regarded cluster of seven independent colleges known as The Claremont Colleges located in Southern California.; . some of these schools only have about 1500-2000 students each.</p>

<p>in my opinion: if i were to use USC as a point of reference, i would say the claremont colleges are decent. i say this b/c USC has better FINANCIAL AID, more international students you can relate to, its bigger, better soical life, and more oppurtunities to grad school and jobs. they are on par for academics, probably.</p>

<p>I agree that the Claremont LACs might not be as well known (outside of pomona), but LACs in general are great. If you go to Amherst, Williams, Dartmouth, or Swarthmore you will get absolute attention from professors, have a better chance of going to a top grad school, have a more wholistic experience (where you know alot of people, people LOVE their school, alumni help you out forever, etc). Last night I was in NYC and ran into a random Dartmouth alum, I talked to him for 30 min, and there was a girl who goes to Columbia. All she could say was wow, I didnt realize how amazing school in the middle of nowhere could be. See, as an undergrad you are under 21 for most of your college career, so you never go downtown anyway. Plus at LACs when you go out you know alot of people, and the more you go out, the more fun it gets. Graduation really is sad.</p>

<p>I think the main disadvantage of LACs is that after passing from them,
the top colleges entertaining admissions for junior year can’t award anything like a FULL TUITION WAIVER (or for that matter adequete FIN AID).
It’s because they allocate most of their FIN AID funds towards freshman entrants leaving little to provide for junior year prospectives.</p>

<p>Are LAC grads (called ‘associates’ ?), any day given more preference than the transfer students, because of their very different underlying principles, for junior year admissions into top colleges ?</p>

<p>MrTrojan, Slipper, anyone please comment</p>

<p>Ashkay-
I think you are confused. LAC’s are LIBERAL ARTS COLLEGES (4 yr institutions) not 2 yrs schools where you get an Associate’s Degree (A.A.). You are describing Community Colleges. Very different kind of institution.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that there are deadlines for applying for these grants, which give full and half tuition scholarships. The deadline is usually around December 10th or so. Check out the USC website.</p>

<p>I thougt LACs had only 2 years of study, then you need to search for some other 4 year college for the remaining 2 years.</p>

<p>-Does that mean that you can actually major in a subject (say business or economics) in LACs, like the conventional 4 year colleges; then what’s the basic difference between LACs and the latter (4yr colls) ?</p>

<p>-You intend to say that Community Colleges award Associate’s Degree ?</p>

<p>-I’m applying for the fall 2006 batch</p>

<p>u need money?? no probs :)</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=7252[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=7252&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ashkay-
Look under the CC subforum “top Liberal Arts Colleges”. That should clear up your confusion. Liberal Arts Colleges are superb, 4 yr institutions. They are NOT 2 yr local community colleges. They typically offer only a bachelors degree (occasionally some Masters programs) but do not have Ph.D. programs (at least none that I can think of). They are commonly smaller schools of higher learning, compared to larger University systems, offering the opportunity for smaller class size, a closer working relationship with your faculty, etc. The name Liberal Arts college connotes the kind of education that they encourage-- a well-rounded educational experience. They do not offer programs that require a strict set of core courses, such as engineering programs. Two year community colleges are a whole different animal-- they offer a 2 yr associates degree (A.A.) compared to the B.A. or B.S. that you will get from a LAC or University. An AA is a limited degree-- most people with AA’s will transfer to a 4 yr college to complete the last 2 yrs of their education, though some may end with a terminal AA degree in , for example, Computer Programming.</p>

<p>Ashkay-
The collegeboard website has a good description of the differences between the colleges, junior colleges (Comm. Colleges) technical schools, LACs, Universities, etc. Go to <a href=“College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools”>College Board - SAT, AP, College Search and Admission Tools;

<p>Ashkay, LACs are superb four year colleges. Top ones are Amherst, Williams, Dartmouth (half-way LAC, its an Ivy), Swarthmore.</p>

<p>One thing though, as an international you might want a bigger school with a more international flavor, I recommend Penn and Brown.</p>

<p>Thanks everyone that clears up my doubts for now</p>