<p>You should replace Purdue with Indiana (Kelley School of Business). Much better for business than Purdue. I like Richmond for business, too.</p>
<p>i forgot to mention: make sure you check out rice university. its a smaller school but relly good.</p>
<p>from your posts, it seems like you would like USC or Stanford. there are also a lot of indian internationals here at SC. i think these schools should be at the top of your list, as it seems they would fit you best.</p>
<p>lol akshay bombau is the largest city in india not one of the largest! Anyway i am 100 % sure that purdue, ucla and rice dont offer significant aid ( not tha amounts you want anyway)</p>
<p>Some choices for you:
Emory University, top 20 school, and top 20 business program. Apply for the Emory Scholars program by November 1st. If you are a finalist, that’s a full scholarship. I will be honest when I say I think you have a decent shot at that. Georgia too has pretty good weather, and Emory has a diverse population, with many asians.</p>
<p>Georgia Tech, while known mostly for its great engineering, also has a fairly good business program (college of management). I believe its business program is ranked 34, and the school itself is 40 or so. If you apply before October 31st, you will be automatically considered for the Presidential Scholarship. If you are a finalist, again, that’s a full ride (plus stipend if i’m not mistaken). </p>
<p>University of Georgia also has a good program, ranked 29. They may waive out of state tuition with stats like yours, and you can qualify for numerous scholarships.</p>
<p>I know about Georgia, so those schools are what I know about best.</p>
<p>USC seems like a great place for you though, apply to all of these and try to get their full ride scholarships.</p>
<p>Mr. Trojan, I’m surprised you regard USC’s business prog as a SAFETY for me. Afterall, its UG business prog is ranked #9 by US News. HOWEVER, it IS MY DREAM SCHOOL since all my preferences are in USC’s favour.</p>
<p>I’m also not giving my SAT IIs.</p>
<p>Hey, STANFORD sounds too good to be true for me.</p>
<p>Akshay, definitely apply to Stanford. And have you been to USC? It is a fine school and has a decent campus, but it is not for everyone.</p>
<p>If you like Southern schools, also look into Rice, Texas-Austin, Emory. I believe they all give generous aid to international students. Rice does not have an undegraduate Business program, but it is an amazing university and it has great connections to industry.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, you really want to apply to the likes of MIT, Princeton, Stanford, Harvard and Yale…and at the same time, to top Business schools like Wharton, Ross, Stern and Haas.</p>
<p>NEW LIST</p>
<p>Business :</p>
<p>Carnegie Mellon University ¶
Univ. of Southern California (Marshall)
Indiana University–Bloomington (Kelley)
Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
University of Notre Dame (IN)
Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC)
University of Georgia (Terry)
Tulane University (Freeman) (LA)
Boston University(MA)</p>
<p>Economics :
Stanford
UCLA
University of Chicago</p>
<p>1) Any other top business/economics school where the climate is pleasant that I did not mention here ?</p>
<p>2) Please tell me why why Uof Virginia, Uof Illinois, cornell and purdue are being disapproved for me, even though they are in the top 20 for business</p>
<p>3) IS IT POSSIBLE TO APPLY TO BUSINESS AND ECONOMICS PROGRAMMES (DIFFERENT COLLEGES) ?</p>
<p>Thank you for all comments and suggestions</p>
<p>I would keep Cornell on the list. It is an awesome university with lots of opportunity to take courses that interest you. The business program is well-respected. It’s cold up there, though.</p>
<p>USC is safety to you. applicants there are competitive, but youre something else. you would be the ideal applicant to a lot of good schools.</p>
<p>1) i think you should check out rice, u michigan, nyu, and stanford.
2) those 4 schools are good but the schools on your list are better, yet they still will probably accept you with aid and fit you you better.
3) i thibnk some schools will let you APPLY in 2 different majors in different colleges. you can always aplly to one and double major, once you are accepted.</p>
<p>texas gives nothing to international undergraduates, this i am 100 % sure of.</p>
<p>Wait, you are not taking SAT II? Suggest you check the requirement of the schools on your list, especially if you want full ride.</p>
<p>yes, take the sat 2’s. i dont think you can get around it.</p>
<p>Askay, I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about how the American college system works. Its completely different from Europe or Asia. Graduate school whether it be business, law, medicine, or a general doctorate program is separate from undergraduate. Of course, if you want to be a doctor it makes sense to study biology and if you want to get an MBA youd most likely take economics, but basically you can major in a completely different discipline and still go on to graduate school. I know art history majors who have gone on to biz school, law school and med school. In America, this is not at all unusual. Secondly, your choice of undergraduate school does not have a direct link to getting in to graduate school. In fact some say you have a better chance if you get your BA or BS at a different school For example if you get Bs at Yale you may not get into Yale Law School. If you get As (plus good recommendations) at a rigorous LAC youd actually have a better chance.</p>
<p>For the most part, American colleges (both universities and LACs) do not expect incoming freshmen to declare majors. There are some exceptions for specialized programs, like engineering or hotel management for example. They may ask you to state your field of interest on your application, but they wouldnt care in the slightest if you listed undecided. I dont know the statistic, but many, many kids change their majors, more than once, during the course of their college careers. This is okay. In the US system, kids are encouraged to experiment, to take courses outside of what they know and like. Some colleges have distribution requirements or core curricula just to make sure that the science/math kids take literature and art and the literature/art kids try science/math. This is very alien to the European system, but thats what a liberal arts education is all about a balance of knowledge. (Even the phrase liberal arts is misleading. It has nothing to do with the Arts. If you get a BA in economics for example, you have a liberal arts degree.) Many, many kids have two majors sometimes in completely unrelated subjects, like astronomy and Japanese. Again, this is not unusual in the US. Sometimes students start out thinking they will like one area then discover a new interest along the way. The requirements for a major are often not as demanding as you may think.</p>
<p>So, it seems to me that you are jumping ahead of your self. Dont worry about graduate school yet. Pick an undergraduate programs that appeal to you and get great grades. When the time comes, if youre still interested in getting an MBA, youll get in to many schools. Id like to stress that most top B-schools now strongly favor work/real life experience before starting graduate work. Again, concentrate on the next step which is the best undergraduate choice. B-school is still years away for you.</p>
<p>Have you ever visited America? Its a big place and can be intimidating. As an international, you could go two different ways: A large university that has many other Asians where youd have a social group of people from your background or alternately a small LAC where the administration and faculty provide more personal attention. Since financial aid is an issue, you should definitely concentrate on those that are either need blind to internationals or have a history of offering financial aid to internationals. Your school should be able to help you with information on other graduates who have studied in America. </p>
<p>I hope that youll have a chance to visit schools before you make up your mind as those on your short list are very different in character as well as geography. Personally, I think youre making a mistake in eliminating LACs from your list. Im an American who lives in Asia and I understand that excellent colleges like Williams, Grinnell, Carleton, Pomona have very little brand awareness here, but I also know that you can get a wonderful education at these schools and a good entrée to professional schools as well. Because the professors know you personally at a small school they can write strong recommendations, plus these schools have wonderful alumni/ae networks that lead to internships and job placements. </p>
<p>In short, you may end up at a big university, but at this point you should continue to investigate LACs. I went to Michigan myself and my son goes to Williams and I understand that you can get an excellent education at either; they are just very different. Many (but by no means all) of the Asian kids that we know here in Indonesia go to LACs. The small and personal atmosphere helps a lot in their transition to a faraway and alien culture.</p>
<p>As far as weather goes . . . Aside from California and the South, America has cold winters. After the initial shock kids from the tropics get used to it. I wouldnt use it a reason to cross a school off your list. You will experience severe weather at CMU, Indiana, ND, BU and Chicago.</p>
<p>momrath says the best…</p>
<p>LAC doesn’t have much international recognition since 1. LACs have fewer graduates 2. most intnl students apply to graduate schools and these doctorate schools are thus well-known internationally</p>
<p>Steve Jobs (Apple) is from Reed, Robert Noyce (Intel) is from Grinnell, Edward C. Prescott (Nobel Economics 2004) is from Swarthmore, Steve Case (AOL) is from Williams, Charles E. Merrill (Merrill Lynch) is from Amherstm just to name a few…</p>
<p>I had visited this place called Anahem (near DisneyLand) in California more than a decade ago and still regard this experience as one of the most pleasant memories of my life. That place wasn’t exactly a concrete jungle (at that time, atleast), but such a place is what I’d least expect for a college setting - and WILL BE CONTENTED with it. </p>
<p>If anyone is familiar with that place as it was 12 years ago, you know what my least expectation for a college setting is.</p>
<p>In fact, an economics major from a TOP LAC is fine for me. So, compared to Anahem, how are the settings of the LACs - Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Amherst, Swarthmore, Haverford, Carleton, Davidson, Williams, Middlebury, Bowdoin, Brown and Dartmouth ?</p>
<p>Is there any other GREAT college (for UG business/Economics or Lib Arts) that you’ll may have crossed off due to my city setting preferences ? I’m still deliberating on the CLIMATE issue - but definitely don’t want to live in HARSH and EXTREME weather conditions.</p>
<p>Pomona and Claremont McKenna are not far from Anaheim and would be a good climate. Davidson isn’t bad. The others are cold, especially Williams and Carlton. Rice is a good climate and a university setting- not a LAC. Indiana isn’t as cold as Williams or Carlton. It is on the same latitude as Swarthmore.</p>
<p>Just to clarify Brown and Dartmouth are ivy league universities. They have small college “feels” (difficult to describe) but they are not LACs.</p>
<p>If by severe climate you mean lots of snow in the winter then avoid the Northeast and the Midwest. This means Amherst, Carleton, Williams, Middlebury, Bowdoin, and Dartmouth. (I defer to the Indianians – or whatever they’re called – on the weather at University of Indiana, but if it’s anything like southern Michigan where I grew up, it ain’t California!) Personally, I think climate’s not such a big deal but it’s okay to use whatever criteria you like in narrowing down your search. If I were you I’d put “need-blind” to internationals on the top of your list of requirements and forget the weather.</p>
<p>Since you’ve been to California and can envision what it’s like, definitely apply to California schools, both universities and LACs. They are excellent. I’ve known internationals who have gotten good financial aid from Pomona, but I don’t think they are need-blind.</p>
<p>Heartfelt thanks OH MY MENTORS and also CC, for all the beautiful advice that I have received from you people. A student just can’t do without CC for matters relating to studying in the U.S.</p>
<p>However, I also apologise to anyone who may have been appalled with my outrageous posts and tastes, and I hope that my PERPETUAL DOUBTS and COLLEGE LISTS haven’t started to ANNOY you all.</p>
<p>I admit that STRIKING OFF good colleges only because there is COLD WEATHER there OR are in the NORTH isn’t exactly FAIR, but I guess I’ll stick to only SOUTH colleges.</p>
<p>So here’s my newest list and it consists ONLY South colleges - Yup, I know this is crazy.</p>
<p>BUSINESS MAJOR
1)University of Southern California (Marshall) - DREAM SCHOOL IF I GET THAT COVETED FULL RIDE…</p>
<p>–</p>
<p>ECONOMICS MAJOR (merely beacause they don’t offer BUSINESS) (Colleges are in no specific order)
2)Stanford University
3)Duke University
4)University of California - Los Angeles
5)University of California - San Diego
6)Vanderbilt University
7)Rice University
8)California Institute of Technology
9)Pomona - LAC
10)Claremont McKenna - LAC
11)Harvey Mudd (where is it? & est-il LAC ?)
12)Davidson (where is it? & est-il LAC ?)</p>
<p>–</p>
<p>Should I apply for ECONOMICS or BUSINESS in these colleges ? (Which DO allow applying to both programmes ?? - and I’m not talking about DOUBLE MAJORING)
13)University of California - Berkeley
14)University of South Carolina – Columbia
15)Emory University
16)Tulane University
17)University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill
18)University of Florida
19)University of Georgia
20)Georgia Institute of Technology</p>
<p>–</p>
<p>Any other GOOD SOUTH COLLEGE that I missed out ?</p>
<p>–</p>
<p>Since my college list is pretty big, I NEED TO SHORTEN IT TO HALF
So,
A) Which of the colleges in this list (particularly UCs, Stanford and Rice) are not good with INTERNATIONAL STUDENT ‘aid’ (need-blind or whatever) & ‘scholarships’ ?
B) Still any colleges above, where there is cold weather (particularly Duke, Vanderbilt and Uof North Carolina)?</p>
<p>Look into New College of the University of South Florida.</p>
<p>Ashkay-
With the list you are generating, it would be a good idea for you to pull up these college websites and do some further research, if you haven’t already. You will see that Harvey Mudd is in California, but is predominantly a math-science school. It is part of a 5 college consortium, and perhaps one of the other schools there,e.g. Claremont-McKenna or Pomona, might be better for economics. Davisdon is in North Carolina. they are on opposite coasts of the US. Also, as a general guideline, a school that has the term “University” in the name will be that- a University, and one with “college” will typically be a LAC.</p>