<p>yabeyabe - your comment reminds me of a poster who took her D to visit Wake Forest on a Saturday morning. In the fall. She complained that they crossed the school of the list because the campus was dead and deserted. Yes - they were all at a home football game!</p>
<p>SUNY Binghamton: Does anyone know what their high school naviance says about this school for OOS acceptance (ACT and GPA)? Also, does this school appear to be more similar to UMCP or Towson? We are very impressed with the large new Chabad on campus (has 3 rabbis, many programs, over 20 pages of description in its brochure on line). Anyone know about the business program? I am trying to find out chances of acceptance OOS and impressions by students, particularly about the business school. There are at least 5 or 6 majors my son could pursue, more than any other university considered. I like the longer list of potential majors should my son decide to switch to something else. Thanks so much.</p>
<p>all of our 3.0/1100 or higher kids have been accepted–much, much easier recently OOS than in state, where you need to be an A student</p>
<p>It is a good business school</p>
<p>re binghamton school of management – business week rankings – [National</a> Graduate Specialty Program Rankings - BusinessWeek](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
<p>[Top</a> Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)
fyi – i found these links by starting here – [Binghamton</a> University - Premier Public: Rankings](<a href=“http://www2.binghamton.edu/features/premier/index.html]Binghamton”>http://www2.binghamton.edu/features/premier/index.html)</p>
<p>business week also provides info re binghamton that breaks down admissions for the overall institution vs. school of management – [Binghamton</a> University: Undergraduate Profile ? BusinessWeek](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?) it does NOT breakdown in-state vs. OOS. but to give you an idea of how SOM compares to the overall university in terms of selectivity – according to businessweek, binghamton accepted 33% of applicants overall and only 16% of its applicants to the business school (i assume that means SOM).</p>
<p>i doubt you will be able to get any firm info regarding OOS admissions stats to the SOM – that could be something you ask about when you go to visit.</p>
<p>binghamton has less than half the number of undergrads that UMCP has and less than 1/3 the number of grad students. it is a little smaller than Towson in terms of number of students. i really don’t think you can try to pidgeon hole is as more like UMCP or Towson. there are too many factors other than size. if you son is this interested, you really need to go to visit to get the answers to all of his and your questions.</p>
<p>something else people should understand about the SUNY system – unlike many other states, there simply is no flagship school. i’ve seen people try to claim that one of the university centers is “really” the flagship and the former governor once talked about having a state flagship, but it simply doesn’t exist in actuality.</p>
<p>i think that in and of itself makes it hard to compare binghamton (or the other suny university centers) with other states’ flagship schools. binghamton is the most selective of the suny university centers, but that doesn’t mean that it is necessarily the “best” university center in all fields.</p>
<p>MD, have you gone on the Bing forum?
I think unbelievablem has provided excellent info and advice. For the comparison to UMCP and Towson, in addition to size, remember that Bing is not near any city; is much colder than those two; is much more like Towson in terms of sports; unlike Towson, it was likely the first instate choice for most of its kids and they probably have higher stats; you can check, but I suspect has many fewer OOS kids than UMCP and fewer commuters than Towson. I assume it is more expensive than both for you and obviously much harder to get to.</p>
<p>If you are going to look at Bing, go before Winter to give it a fair shot (and avoid a painful drive).</p>
<p>A few pages back chocchipcookie (?) asked about Lehigh. D and I visited last February–I was hoping this might be a fit, although maybe somewhat of a reach, for my D. It was a Monday about 10 a.m. and we got turned around on the seemingly large campus when trying to find the info session. Oddly, we couldn’t find any people! Over the next 10 minutes of driving, we came across two people and neither knew where the building we were looking for was! My D developed a very negative impression and she now jokes that “there are no people at Lehigh”! We did finally find the correct building and the info session and tour were okay but, again, during the tour–about 11 a.m. on a Monday–there were very few people around. Was too big a turn off for my D to overcome and she ruled it out. Very odd experience!</p>
<p>I don’t post often but do check in every couple of days and can’t thank everyone enough for their activity on this thread. My D has narrowed down her list to about 8 schools and is preparing for the SAT (2nd time) Oct 9, making some limited progress on her supplements and working very hard to pull strong first quarter grades as they’ll be submitted to the schools she’s applying to–one of which will be EA (no ED for her). We’re in for quite a ride!</p>
<p>I check in on this discussion from time to time. Good and interesting info. Perhaps someone has already shared a link to this article on SUNY schools published last July in the NY Times but in case not, here is an important summary of issues facing the SUNY system.</p>
<p><a href=“The Accidental Giant of Higher Education - The New York Times”>The Accidental Giant of Higher Education - The New York Times;
<p>re: Binghamton…having lived here my entire life (or rather in the county). Definitely NOT a college town. School is in the suburb of Vestal, on the Vestal Parkway (rt 434). Parkway has lots of restaurants and shopping. Car would be nice, but not essential as the school has a GREAT bus system that goes to downtown Binghamton, the Oakdale Mall (across the river in Johnson City) and down the Parkway in both directions to shopping, movies etc.
All the students I know who go there LOVE it! Very, very active Chabad and Hillel. Small local Jewish community, but we do have reform, conservative and orthodox congregations which are very welcoming to students.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for this valuable info. My son is going to apply to Binghamton. The size sounds perfect. I love the fact that there are numerous majors of interest so if my son needs to switch a major, he can easily do so (except for SOM). Variety of majors is really an important consideration with college choice. Majors such as Economic Policy Analysis (sounds perfect for my son but he said where will he find a job with that major?), Financial Engineering, --not found anywhere else for B plus students-- plus the usual Accounting, etc. Also, heard the Chabad is fabulous and there is plenty of activities for a Jewish student. I think we will be flexible about location because the programs and Jewish community are obviously at Binghamton.
I’ll check the Binghamton forum.</p>
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<p>well actually, Binghamton itself IS a city. the school is in the suburb of Vestal. Binghamton is no NYC or Baltimore, but it is a city. in contrast, for example, SUNY Geneseo is quite rural.</p>
<p>One college not mentioned that has a Hillel and is a great college for B students is Albright College in PA. I don’t know the Jewish population but the synagogue is not far from campus. It’s a small college - 1600 undergrads but the kids I know who attend really like it. Business and education are probably the two most popular majors.
Might be worth checking into…</p>
<p>Yeah, that was me, Collage1, suggesting Lehigh. We know three people who went there who are now very highly respected engineers and doctors. It’s really too bad that their reputation as a drinking & partying school is so pervasive. I think that’s a turnoff for so many people. Yeah, it’s odd that you had a negative experience of finding no one on campus…I can only imagine because it was in Februrary? And that at that hour kids were either in class or still sleeping?! What did your D think of the campus? The buildings? The academic programs? Would you bother to visit again in better weather?</p>
<p>My S also was turned off to a few schools that unfortunately we saw on rainy days. It’s really too bad. He found some of the school reps very pretentious and was turned off…wonder if the schools marketing people know that they may not be putting out their best choices for reps!</p>
<p>RE: Binghamton - The school actually closed Labor Day week this year since it was also Rosh Hashanah. Dorms closed and everything. That’s pretty Jewish. (SUNY Albany too)</p>
<p>RE: Lehigh - Hope the weather holds up and that it’s a beautiful fall day when we visit next month (Election Day). It definitely makes a difference!</p>
<p>MDCISSP - I think Binghamton is a great choice for your son. Which college did he decide to apply for? or will he apply as undecided?</p>
<p>MDCISSP: a couple of things Bing related; agree with yabeyabe: OOS around a 3.0 1100 is fine but for Harpur College (arts and sci) only; the only kids I know in NJ who have been accepted to the Business School have been higher stat kids…I don’t have specifics, but a ballpark would be 3.5 and at least 1200 (just from two kids I know)…</p>
<p>Your son could apply to the business school but if he really wants Binghamton even without business (he could minor), instruct admissions with a letter that your son would attend Harpur if the business school doesn’t work…I know at least 5 students who were deferred/waitlisted to the business school who did this and were automatically (almost) admitted.</p>
<p>as has been mentioned on this thread earlier, it is very, very (did I say very?) difficult to transfer into the business school at Binghamton from any other school there…</p>
<p>so kids HAD to leave for Rosh? A shame Jewish kids couldn’t experience the holidays at Chabad or Hillel, if that’s the case.</p>
<p>^^not only did the kids HAVE to leave, but according to some of the students on the BIng forum, dorms were closed and kids who lived far away HAD to disperse a week after school started; not a good move IMO from a school that wants to increase geographic diversity…dorms should have stayed open…they never did this back in the day</p>
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<p>For any of your kids who end up at Binghamton… Here is one “Jewish mother” who is willing to be resource for them or you . Over the years I have hosted students at my home for the holidays ( especially when, unlike this year, there was no long break. I can also help with medical referrals etc.</p>
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<p>Holliiesue: Thanks so much for your support. Your kindness is greatly appreciated should my son end up at Binghamton.</p>
<p>Rodney: I really appreciate you mentioning the letter that you will take Harpur as second choice. Have not yet seen the SUNY application. My son will start it this week-end. Do you list a first and second choice major on the application? I could see my son happy with 5 different majors at Binghamton, more than any other school we considered. I like the fact that he can change majors if need be as many freshmen do change their minds. Also, like the large Chabad, and smaller size than UMCP and Towson. My son likes Towson but thought it a little big. Stevenson was too small for him. Binghamton sounds like the right size. Also, OOS Binghamton is less than $50,000 a year school. My son said he wants to visit if he is accepted. Told hubby we should head up there a week-end before winter.</p>
<p>Any other suggestions for schools similar to Binghamton and Towson-greatly appreciated as my son is now finalizing his list choice. </p>
<p>Thanks so much for everyone’s support and help. I really appreciate it.</p>