<p>Went to a college presentation and heard the admissions rep from UMBC. I am very impressed with the info. presented. UMBC emphasizes small classes and personal attention.
It is a school for serious students. Although does not have the classic business administration program, the school has various certificates to gain specialty skills. Has top chess club, Jewish groups (there is a Hillel and a Jewish Students Organization–not sure if these are 2 different groups or the same group with different names), and a shuttle to get to the train station back to DC. I suggest everyone on this thread to consider UMBC. Tuition is very reasonable both in state and OOS.</p>
<p>MDcissp, good to hear.
Sockher–I think FIT is an excellent suggestion–and a great value… I am far from a fashion expert (as my wife and kids would attest), but some possibilities (which I might be wrong about, in or near NY are SUNY Purchase; Pratt; Pace; Marymount; Manhattan College; Adelphi; Wagner; Manhattanville; CCNY; Queens College; and Brooklyn College.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>…and of course, Parson’s (New School), setting for Project Runway. SVA also has a fashion program.</p>
<p>yabeyabe2-FIT looks perfect, will also look at the others. THANKS!!</p>
<p>Best of luck Sockhermom–NYC is a great place and much safer than its reputation.</p>
<p>I hope I am not the only one wondering about the origin of your screen name :)</p>
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<p>SockherMom, Not real close to NYC, but within an hour and do-able by train is Marist College in Poughkeepsie, NY. [The</a> Fashion Department - Fashion Merchandising: Marist College](<a href=“http://www.marist.edu/commarts/fashion/fashmerch.html]The”>Fashion Program)</p>
<p>Philadelphia’s Moore College of Art and Design deserves a look.</p>
<p>Slight correction-- Marist is about 90 miles from NYC. It is easy to take the train from Poughkeepsie to NYC, but it will take more than an hour. According to the schedule, its more like 90-105 minutes. <a href=“http://as0.mta.info/mnr/schedules/sched_results.cfm?n=y[/url]”>http://as0.mta.info/mnr/schedules/sched_results.cfm?n=y</a> ( this link now erased the schedule I typed in , but it can be easily recreated)</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.mta.info/mnr/html/mnrmap.htm[/url]”>http://www.mta.info/mnr/html/mnrmap.htm</a></p>
<p>sockhermom- if d’s sat’s results are disappointing- please don’t rule out ACT. My d had a much easier time with that test format than the SAT. Didn’t even need to study much for it. Just got Real ACT studyguide did a few practice tests and was good to go. As been said countless times, some kids just do better on one type of exam than the other. </p>
<p>don’t know much about fashion design- but can tell you SUNY Oneonta is in the middle of nowhere. Lovely campus- but for west coast kid, it may not be a top choice. Winters can be pretty severe.
I’ve been in Poughkeepsie and have driven by Marist college. Seems to be a nice campus. Commuting to NYC via metro north ain’t a bad commute at all. So it could be a nice blend of a real campus environment and an easy commute into NYC on week-ends. It’s pretty popular with kids from my area of Long Island. I don’t know if there is a strong Jewish presence on campus- but it is a school to check out due to it’s proximity to NYC. And of couse FIT with SUNY tuition can’t be beat. Dorms are in midtown area around
7th Avenue and 28th Street (or thereabouts). Not too far from Macy’s flagship store.</p>
<p>Just thought of another possibility. Montclair State U (in NJ) has BA in Fashion Studies through their Department of Art and Design. Do not know much about the school- but I think it may be easy commute into NYC and they seem to have a strong Arts and Theatre proigram. May be a school to put on your radar!</p>
<p>Marist is a good school, with a nice campus on the Hudson, but do not discount the harsh winter and the 90 miles from NYC. For those who want major NYC time, 90 miles (which is the distance from NYC to Philadelphia, too) is very different from FIT, Parsons, etc offering the chance to spend every free moment there.</p>
<p>Montclair is much closer–about 25 miles–but the shcool is dominated by commuters, so be sure it is a good fit. Rutgers and Hofstra are also suburban options.</p>
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<p>^^yabeyabe: Montclair is building/has built dorms for 2000 students and more are in the works…around here, has become a go-to school for kids who cannot go to Rutgers or TCNJ and alot of them are choosing to live there as well…</p>
<p>Marist is a good school for someone with a learning disablity/ADD, from what I have heard. It is, as yaybaybe said, far from NYC. One can get to NYC by train, but this is not a quick ride on the train! I have heard that Marist has offered group trips into NYC for the day with very steeply discounted tickets to Broadway shows. I don’t know how often these trips are organized. As student from the west coast, if I did not love cold and snow, I would stay away from Marist. If one does not mind cold weather, it is a good choice.</p>
<p>I don’t know how happy a student from the west coast would be at a NJ state school. NJ students can basically get home on any weekend in about 2-3 hours (MAX). How would your child feel about watching that happen? Something to think about. Hofstra, also has a lot of commuters, but they seem to also have a fair number of students from New England (I doubt that the majority of them are leaving campus, other than for holidays/breaks). I have heard that many students even leave campus at Rutgers (full disclosure is that I was told this by an admission counselor who works at another NJ college), but the suitcase feel is not noticed as much because of the size of Rutgers. There will still be plenty of students on campus on weekends.</p>
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<p>I posted the time, distance and train schedule/map route from Poughkeepsie to Grand Central Station in post #2788.</p>
<p>Oneonta is not only far from NY but offset from the main roads so that it is difficult to get to. I think it’s probably more than 3 1/2 hrs especially in Winter. I actually like the school a lot for my D, it’s got a cute town and almost seems like a school on the verge of being the next New Paltz. But it’s a destination, not as someplace near NYC. </p>
<p>Poughkeepsie on the otherhand is a quick drive, train or bus ride into NYC. Marist had also been recommended to me by a college counsellor and I looked into it. My own feeling was that if any sort of Jewish feeling is desired, it really doesn’t fit the bill. </p>
<p>Someone added Parsons (now a part of the New School) but I believe they only offer an AAS in fashion marketing. I took classes centuries ago at the New School and my son lived in one of their dorms this summer for an internship but, I’m not sure I’d yet consider it a “real” college.</p>
<p>For anyone interested in any aspect of Fashion it’s hard to beat FIT. The courses offered, the campus lectures and musuem, the displays and the students themselves all live and breathe fashion. And even though the Garment Center which is only half dozen blocks away isn’t what it used to be (little work is done there anymore) the showrooms, findings stores and opportunities for career placement (especially in marketing) really can’t be beat. (Or should I say something like FIT to a T?)</p>
<p>Wow, thanks for all the great input!!</p>
<p>My daughter has her heart set on NYC!! We live in an LA suburb, on the beach and she wants a 'real" city. Took her to San Francisco this summer, looked at a bunch of schools and she liked it but NYC is where she wants to be.</p>
<p>She has a friend at New School, she will be going to visit her this winter…and hopefully it will be really, really cold…lol…too cold for an beach kid!!</p>
<p>FIT, even with our of state tuition is mush cheaper than private schools…and they do have a Marketing degree which would be a great fit. Does anyone know the GPA/SAT requirements for admission?</p>
<p>Maryn1-She will be taking the ACT later in the year, I have also heard that for ADHD kids it is a better test…the SAT was the just being offered first so that is what she will be doing this weekend.</p>
<p>yabeyabe2 :**
I hope I am not the only one wondering about the origin of your screen name ** Yep, kinda guess my screen name implies that I smack my kid around…actually she has been a soccer player since she was 4…it was one of my first screen names and have always stuck with it!! She just stopped playing high level soccer this last year, she had always hoped to play in college and had been really serious about a few schools…and now…her interests and career choice have changed. So now, she is looking in another direction and NYC is it. </p>
<p>We will definitely look at all these other schools and any other suggestions would really be appreciated. </p>
<p>Oh, cherryhillmom…her brother is in school in Philly, we will also be going to visit him and plan to look at Moore…Thanks</p>
<p>how about University of Richmond? And I agree with putting Pitt on the list if you are looking for a larger school.</p>
<p>was just on FIT site- doesn’t look like SAT/ACT scores are mandatory except if you are applying for Honors program and then “solid” SAT or ACT scores are needed.<br>
I don’t think you can beat FIT for location, program, or tuition. You need to initially apply through the SUNY application and then there is usually a supplemental application for the specific SUNY school. So when it is time, there are plenty of SUNY parents on board who can help you out with the application process. It is really quite simple.</p>
<p>as U of Richmond was also mentioned, if you decide to look there- also check out Virginia Commonwealth U (VCU). They have a very well respected arts program and do have a BFA in Fashion design and BA in Fashion Merchandising.<br>
We checked out VCU for my kid. I liked the campus- kinda urban/artsy feel. I felt safe- but in reading these boards- VCU didn’t get high marks. But then again most cc readers are not looking for good match schools for B students so there was a dismissive attitude towards VCU- but I thought it had potential.</p>
<p>Marny1, I visited VCU last January (for a Bar Mitzvah at the beautiful Tiffany Glass decorated Reform Synagogue a block off campus). unfortunately my D couldn’t come. I thought the area was very picturesque and the campus very interesting. I’ve sort of had it in the back of my mind for a while. Can you shed any more light on VCU vis a vis this thread?</p>
<p>(BTW, my sister who is a recruiter for the advertising industry tells me that VCU is a sought after and heavily recruited mecca for anyone interested in advertising).</p>
<p>we just spent the day in the richmond area and then a visit to old dominion and gmu. We really did look at a few Va. public universities. </p>
<p>I also found the VCU area interesting and thought it had potential. But I have heard on these boards, that the area around campus may not be the safest.<br>
Having spent over 40 years living in Brooklyn and now on Long Island-- I just accept the fact that some people have a dislike for urban areas. They just feel out of their comfort zone when in an urban area. So I cannot tell if the VCU area is a high crime rate- or people just don’t feel comfortable in an urban area.<br>
VCU- struck me as an artsy/urban campus. That atmosphere works for some people and not others. I liked it and would have been fine if my kid decide to attend.
my guess is that your relatives in Richmond can give you a much better idea as to how vcu is viewed. But I can tell you it does seem to have a very strong arts program.</p>
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<p>Sokhermom, I know all about picking a screen name on a whim and then ahving second thoughts…</p>
<p>Rodney, I have spent a lot of time at Montclair. Although they are expanding the dorms, it is still very much a commuter schools, except for certain groups. Traffic is very crowded and the campus looks very empty on weekends. Ramapo is also trying to increase dorming. Lots of Rutgers kids leave on nonfootball weekends, but lots are always around.</p>
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