<p>^^^ Those poor flyover states-- they don’t get enough respect And your above post (440) supports the reality that in fact things HAVE changed for the southern flagships, so I am a bit confused by your statement to the contrary in post 436. Yes, more OOS’ers come down to the south, but I think the reverse is true to a degree-- that instaters arent just attending their flagship U.</p>
<p>Response from one of the 2 C of C kids (well, from the mom, who asker her kid and that’s the response) :
Is that sufficient? I asked about how the northerners were seen, but didnt seem to get that in the response. When I went to look at C of C with s# 2, I didnt get any feeling that there was a north/south issue. I was only there a day, but didnt get that feel at all.</p>
<p>In 436, I was saying it is common for NE kids to go to OOS flagships; 440 were some examples. In 436 I was uncertain whether Southern kids do it as often–for example, do Alabama kids often go to Ole Miss, Penn State, etc?</p>
<p>I don’t know about intra deep south. I can say that kids from Northern virginia routinely go to OOS publics in North Carolina, as well as Maryland, PSU, etc. </p>
<p>You hear about some going to Alabama. </p>
<p>Similarly, I am pretty sure NC students at the Virginia flagships are pretty common.</p>
<p>Some areas have regional tuition reciprocity, so it’s fairly common for students to go out of state, e.g. (I believe) Wisconsin, Minnesota, and the Dakotas, or New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona.</p>
<p>man, whoever said this thread moves fast wasn’t kidding! I am away on business and look what I missed. LOL. Anyway, just wanted to tell you Rockvillemom that I actually agree with you on the SCEA for the most part. I understand what Tulane was trying to accomplish, but I think it is more confusing than helpful. I think just EA is enough (although ED would be OK I suppose), but anyway that was exactly why I said that I thought applying EA was a good idea for that student. I purposely did not bring up SCEA.</p>
<p>I had about 5 pages to catch up on and my head is still spinning!</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the great information on Tulane. It is on D’s list and it’s a school we are considering. </p>
<p>As far as the SUNY’s I think anyone with a B child should consider them. It must be harder to get into in state that oos. The stats from my D’s school on Naviance show the average for admitted students for Binghamton to be wgpa 3.66 and sat 1249. If that’s Binghamton, I would think any SUNY school for OOS would be a saftey or match school.</p>
<p>I can’t see how University of Michigan could be a match school for anyone! The average admitted student from D’s school is wgpa 4.49 and sat 1394. Less than 1/2 of those who apply get admitted. </p>
<p>College of Charleston looks like a good match for a B student. The past few years a few of the kids from D’s school have gone. The list of schools that seniors are attending next year came out today and I don’t remember seeing anyone going to College of Charleston. I was surprised by that.</p>
<p>A few things I noted from looking at the list. Almost a quarter of the graduating class is going to UMDCP. Then add in the Towson, UMBC and other MD state schools and I would say easily that over 1/2 the graduating class is staying in state. I was VERY surprised by that.</p>
<p>From our NY high school a 90 weighted GPA is about the minimum for getting into SUNY Binghamton and even then you need an adequate SAT score - most of the acceptees have 1800+ SAT scores.</p>
<p>Rodney:
The response from the other mom (edited to take out side personal conversation):
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<p>BTW-- I don’t know that I would agree about the “hippie/free spirit” comment, but again, I was only there for a day. I haven’t heard it described that way from others, though.</p>
<p>mdmomfromli - you took the words right out of my mouth! Was just looking at the same article - same impressions. I don’t ever recall seeing such a large percentage staying in-state - I can only guess the economy is really having a big effect. Other than that - I’d say the matriculation list is dominated by large universities - most of those going out of state are heading to Michigan, Wisconsin, Delaware, Indiana, South Carolina, etc. I don’t see a lot heading to small/medium LACs - although there were 3 heading to Elon.</p>
<p>This was one of my points when I started the thread - one of the early posters asked why I don’t just see where kids from my hs are going to and start there - and this is the answer - there is not that much variety and I’m hoping for my son to go out of state and to a small-medium Jewish friendly school. No one from our hs is heading to Gettysburg, Muhlenberg, Susquehanna, College of Charleston, etc.</p>
<p>Now, an interesting side note. One student is going to the American Jewish University of Israel and one is going into the Israeli army!</p>
<p>Even higher WGPA at our public NY HS - my D had 92 WGPA and got waitlisted! Did not have strong ACT though.</p>
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<p>Most at our HS don’t go too far (Naviance has a great feature that shows this). Ironically, D’s BFF is going to Susquehanna! She did a summer journalism program there once and loved it. I think the Maryland example is probably common. I see that here - most kids are going to SUNY schools (so many to choose from); some going to neighboring states (CT, NJ, PA); a handful going to Chicago (NU, UofC, Loyola); only one going out to Cali.; couple to FL. Of the handful of Jewish kids - one SUNY, one Vandy, plus my D at UDel (can’t think of any other Jewish kids!!!) My D’s GC was surprised when I said I would be ok with a plane ride to college (no connections though!); turns out my D didn’t want to go that far.</p>
<p>During this process, my frustration was that the GC wasn’t opening my eyes to any possible colleges that I hadn’t thought of. If I had only known about CC… you all have so much to offer and have come up with so many good options to consider!</p>
<p>Binghamton seems unusual in that is easier to get in OOS than instate, while UNC, UVA and UDel are dramatically harder OOS. Perhaps they both fear being 100% instate and do not have that many OOS applicants because of their lack of both big time sports and warm weather–they average only 2 applicants per year from our Central NJ HS, which sends most kids OOS.</p>
<p>The article reporting the overwhelming majority of kids going either instate or big school OOS is a symbol of what I call the ESPN Generation: these kids, boys and girls, have grown up associating college with being shown on ESPN with their faces painted and then heading to huge parties. Our big group headed to Michigan were almost all Ivy hopefuls, who saw a prestigious ESPN school as the next best option.</p>
<p>The most popular privates to apply to at our NJ HS are also ESPN schools: Syracuse, Villanova and St. Joes. Next are the top schools and warm weather or party schools (Elon, James Madison, Tulane, Miami, UMass).</p>
<p>We do, however, have at least 5 going to each of Susquehanna, Muhlenberg and Franklin & Marshall, 3 or more to Dickinson, Gettysburg and at least 1 to Ursinus, Goucher and Reed. I have not yet seen any going to Midwestern or Southern LACs.</p>
<p>I heard that the area around SUNY Binghamton is quiet and nothing around the school. Does anyone know what the adjacent neighborhood to Binhamton is like?</p>
<p>Rockvillemom-
What article are you referring to in post 453? Do you folks mean by"article" the list of schools your respective graduating classes are attending?</p>
<p>I also saw the school newspaper and noticed the majority of kids are heading to in state universities. Very few are going to private schools. I think the economic down turn impacted choice of schools.</p>
<p>Mdcissp- lived in Binghamton area my whole life. The uni is really in the suburb of Vestal. It adjoins a suburban residential area and is located on the Vestal Pkwy. The parkway has restaurants, hotels and shops on it.</p>
<p>Thank you so much for your response as I was going to tell my son to eliminate Binghamton if there was nothing special walking distance of campus. Can you walk to Vestal Parkway and what kind of restaurants, hotels and shops are there? Is it similar to the area near Towson university? My son is fine with a suburban location, but does not want to be in an isolated area. I do not plan to buy him a car.</p>
And your above post (440) supports the reality that in fact things HAVE changed for the southern flagships, so I am a bit confused by your statement to the contrary in post 436. Yes, more OOS’ers come down to the south, but I think the reverse is true to a degree-- that instaters arent just attending their flagship U.</p>