Colleges full of people that WANT to be there?

<p>I really want to go to a college where students want to learn and everyone is open-minded and themselves. I've already been to high school and definitely don't need anymore superficial experiences. Do you know of any schools that can offer what I'm talking about?</p>

<p>Many, many, many schools fit that description.
You need to really give some more specifics if you need further guidance.</p>

<p>Yale.</p>

<p>Only school that's really able to compete with Harvard for cross-admits.</p>

<p>You've got intellectual curiosity and motivation, school spirit.</p>

<p>Deep Springs College</p>

<p>Top liberal arts colleges. The prestige isn't as there as for Ivies, academics are rigorous, people are quirkier.</p>

<p>Lolo,
Lots of colleges are full of students who love it there. One of the USNWR factors is Freshmen Retention. While you can't take this as a complete statement on the school's relative attractiveness, it does say something. Here is how a comparison of the USNWR Top 75 national universities and the USNWR Top 40 LACs.</p>

<p>Freshmen Retention Rate , College</p>

<p>98.5% , Columbia
98.5% , Pomona
98.0% , Princeton
98.0% , MIT
98.0% , Stanford
98.0% , U Penn
98.0% , Dartmouth
97.8% , Caltech
97.8% , U Chicago
97.8% , Bowdoin
97.5% , Brown
97.5% , Notre Dame
97.2% , Harvard
97.2% , Amherst
97.0% , UCLA
97.0% , U VIRGINIA
97.0% , U N CAROLINA
97.0% , Williams
96.8% , Northwestern
96.8% , Johns Hopkins
96.8% , Rice
96.5% , Wash U
96.5% , UC BERKELEY
96.5% , Georgetown
96.5% , Swarthmore
96.5% , Carleton
96.2% , Duke
96.2% , Cornell
96.2% , Haverford
96.2% , US Naval Acad
96.0% , Vanderbilt
96.0% , USC
96.0% , U MICHIGAN
96.0% , Claremont McK
95.8% , Tufts
95.8% , Davidson
95.8% , Vassar
95.5% , Boston College
95.5% , Holy Cross
95.2% , WILLIAM & MARY
95.0% , Middlebury
95.0% , Wesleyan
95.0% , Barnard
95.0% , Bucknell
94.8% , U Rochester
94.8% , Wellesley
94.8% , Harvey Mudd
94.5% , Carnegie Mellon
94.5% , U FLORIDA
94.5% , W&L
94.5% , Bates
94.2% , Emory
94.2% , Brandeis
94.2% , UC SAN DIEGO
94.2% , Colby
94.0% , Lehigh
94.0% , Colorado College
94.0% , Whitman
93.8% , Hamilton
93.8% , Lafayette
93.5% , U WISCONSIN
93.5% , UC IRVINE
93.5% , Colgate
93.5% , Oberlin
93.5% , Bryn Mawr
93.2% , Wake Forest
93.2% , U ILLINOIS
93.2% , Rensselaer
93.2% , PENN STATE
93.2% , U GEORGIA
93.0% , U MARYLAND
93.0% , Grinnell
93.0% , Mt. Holyoke
93.0% , Macalester
93.0% , Kenyon
92.8% , U WASHINGTON
92.8% , U CONNECTICUT
92.5% , NYU
92.2% , GEORGIA TECH
92.2% , U TEXAS
92.2% , Furman
92.0% , TEXAS A&M
92.0% , Worcester
92.0% , Occidental
91.8% , OHIO STATE
91.8% , Scripps
91.5% , Case Western
91.5% , US Military Acad
91.2% , George Washington
91.2% , Syracuse
91.2% , Trinity
91.0% , Boston University
90.8% , MICHIGAN ST
90.8% , U Richmond
90.5% , UC S BARBARA
90.2% , UC DAVIS
90.2% , VIRGINIA TECH
90.0% , U PITTSBURGH
90.0% , U DELAWARE
90.0% , Smith
89.8% , U Miami
89.8% , CLEMSON
89.8% , Fordham
89.8% , RUTGERS
89.2% , UC S CRUZ
89.0% , Pepperdine
88.8% , Sewanee
88.2% , Yeshiva
88.2% , INDIANA U
87.8% , SMU
87.5% , Tulane
87.2% , U MINNESOTA
86.8% , BYU
86.5% , Bard
85.0% , PURDUE
83.5% , U IOWA</p>

<p>I know it is impossible to look up each school's latest stats, but Tulane made a big jump to over 90% for the class that will now be juniors, and should maintain at least that for the class that will be soph's. I think it was a hair over 90%. Just to let you know. USNWR is of course always lagging a couple of years. What can one do?</p>

<p>According to collegeboard.com, which has updated its numbers, the Tulane Freshmen Retention is now up to 91%.</p>

<p>BYU</p>

<p>Although Deep Springs was the best suggestion.</p>

<p>@hawkette - is there a reason Yale is not on your retention rate list? According to collegeboard.com (the site you referenced): "Percent of students who return for sophomore year: 99%" That would put Yale as #1.</p>

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<p>I disagree. The abominable yield rates reveal all.</p>

<p>Amherst (2009): 38.06 percent
Williams (2009): 44.42 percent
Swarthmore (2009): 40.66 percent
Wesleyan (2009): 33.59 percent
Pomona (2009): 39.31 percent
Middlebury (2009) 42.75 percent</p>

<p>dan,
Not sure why Yale did not copy over. According to USNWR, it's Freshmen Retention was 98.8% which would have placed it first on my list. Thanks for pointing out the error.</p>

<p>I'm not sure where I can find these stats for every school but this is what Clemson says: (Anyone know where to find and can post the National Survey of Student Engagement survey results about the percentage of students who would pick their school again?)</p>

<p>91: Percentage of seniors who would choose Clemson if they could start their college career over again, according to 2008 National Survey of Student Engagement.
89: Percentage of Clemson students who believe this school has a substantial commitment to their academic success, according to 2008 National Survey of Student Engagement.
89: Percentage of students who believe Clemson places a substantial emphasis on academics, according to 2008 National Survey of Student Engagement.</p>

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I disagree. The abominable yield rates reveal all.</p>

<p>Amherst (2009): 38.06 percent
Williams (2009): 44.42 percent
Swarthmore (2009): 40.66 percent
Wesleyan (2009): 33.59 percent
Pomona (2009): 39.31 percent
Middlebury (2009) 42.75 percent

[/quote]
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<p>What do yield rates have to do with anything? The students who don't decide to attend the school won't represent the student body of that school.</p>

<p>I think the schools you are highlighting have such low yield rates is because none of them give merit aid and lose students to those schools who find it necessary to "buy" their student body.</p>

<p>cornell! i haven't met a single person who isn't happy there and it really is like being part of one big community</p>

<p>I think we can safely ignore kwu. If it isn't Yale, it doesn't exist, lol. The yield thing makes zero sense for this discussion, and yield hardly makes sense to use anyway. In this day and age of 10+ applications per top student, yields just don't tell you what they used to. Actually, except as compared to the Ivies and a couple of other schools, those yields are pretty good.</p>

<p>Anyway, for the OP: U Chicago has always had a reputation of being the kind of school I think you are describing. WUSTL is also one to consider in this regard. Actually, any of the top 20-30 of USNWR will present you with academically challenging peers, as will the top LAC's. You have a wonderful variety of choices. What are your stats?</p>

<p>"I think we can safely ignore kwu. If it isn't Yale, it doesn't exist, lol."</p>

<p>Don't follow, what does kwu, or his post, have to do with Yale? Or were these two unconnected thoughts. </p>

<p>I think what he was implying is low yield indicates proportionally fewer people really want to be there. I think it's more the case though that the competition among liberal arts colleges is quite fierce, there are so many schools having essentially the same offerings.</p>

<p>I find it odd Cornell is so low. All I've heard is praise about it, especially Ithaca...</p>

<p>I was joking about kwu, although only mentioning Yale kind of stood out. Was weird in the conect of the OP question.</p>

<p>Also bringing up yield given the topic was very odd. Yield really doesn't indicate much any longer, other than that the Ivies still enroll most people they accept. No suprise there, but for everyone else, yields are lower at most schools than they were a decade or more ago. Why? The internet and the common app, coupled with the fact that any one student can only enroll at one school. Anyway, this will hijack the thread so no need to go on. Suffice it to say the OP is looking for schools known for academic rigor and serious students. Yield has very little to do with that, especially these days.</p>