Colleges you/child crossed off the list after visiting

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Got to agree with this one … with my oldest we went college shopping during spring break of her junior year which is prime time for accepted students to visit. Some schools were pristine … not a gum wrapper or cigarette butt to be seen … or a flyer for an activity other than on the activities board … or any tables for clubs … or, etc, etc. Of course people’s reactions to this may vary but my oldest cracked me up when she rejected a place by describing it as a “Stepford Campus”; everything was in it’s perfect place … she was drawn to campuses that had a little student driven chaos actively underway and allowed to be seen.</p>

<p>While I didnt personally climb any threes while at Vassar, I do not recall any rule about it, and vaguely remember a few folks up on the big branches of the trees on the lawn in front of the library (between the library and Main). In fact, I think there is a photo or two in the yearbook of such. Maybe a tree (or a person) got damaged in the past 30-35 years and a rule was imposed. Dunno. As for Poughkeepsie- we called it the armpit of Dutchess county. Title was well deserved. The shops right off campus are cute though.</p>

<p>My son crossed Skidmore off the list after the tour guide spent 80% of the time focusing on the music building and the drama and arts programs. He got the vibe (incorrectly or not) that sciences weren’t valued. At University of Rochester, on the other hand, he got the feeling that only sciences were valued. Also, he said it felt “awkward” there. My son is one of those types who makes a decision based on a quick initial impression. I hope he never goes on any blind dates!</p>

<p>University of Texas - one of about eight schools on a swing … 90 minutes in my DH and DS called and said they were bailing. This after - UT had been at the top of the list. Too much about how hard it is for OOS kids to get in, much less lucky enough to get a major or a dorm room. Great sales job at their visit.</p>

<p>storytimes–are you sure you didn’t wind up on one of the arts tours by mistake? Skidmore has special tours that focus on the arts facilities for the first half-hour and then hitch up with a “regular” tour in progress. We went on one of those, and they did indeed go into a lot of depth about the arts resources & programs, which for us was great, since our son is a music major.</p>

<p>Pitzer: There wasn’t anything bad about the campus. It just felt too small for my daughter, despite being part of the Claremont Consortium. She also felt that she wasn’t a good match for the overall environmental and social activist feeling on the campus.</p>

<p>I remember visiting Wheaton College MA with my son and daughters and having such high hopes, but it didn’t go very well. It was summer and very warm, the tour guide seemed tired and she was working so she could go abroad and get off campus for a semester.
I remember the freshman dorm being very small and musty, I wondered if there was a leak somewhere because it had that odor. As we walked by the pond, which at the time was covered in green algea, she talked of how they liked to throw students into it which might be fun, but at that moment wasn’t very appealing. :confused: The classrooms were okay, we did like how the professors really like to get to know you, one videotaped his students in his large Psych class and watched them on his TV to get to know them (some though might think that was odd)
It got worse when my son asked about getting off campus, and taxi’s were mentioned or shuttles to grocery stores. Any shuttle to Providence, etc. were 10.00 if I remember correctly and for events. At other colleges like Holy Cross, it was free and weekly. We also saw a newspaper that had an article about graffiti and notes left on an African American female students door and some gay bashing. I know this exists other places but Wheaton, but it just added to the “this isn’t a good fit”.
She also insisted that no other small LAC had Intro Psych classes under 100…I knew Drew Univ did, we had visited there and corrected her since we were alone, but she seemed surprised. I told her they had 50 or under and when my son did maltriculate there, it was true, they just had more classes.
I know Wheaton is a good LAC, but it shows how a visit can give you pause.</p>

<p>We’re going to NYU on Wednesday…wondering how d is going to like the “no campus” feel.</p>

<p>Reaction to NYU is very mixed. D loves the fact that she is a part of the city on her walk uptown from her Broome Street dorm near Soho/Nolita/Little Italy. It is an unbelievable part of the city. It gives her a chance to be more than a student. However, as she approaches the village/ Washington Square area, the city very much becomes NYU, as you are surrounded by students/ dorms/ and NYU buildings. It is perfect for some and not campusy enough for others.</p>

<p>BC and BU. BC campus is beautiful but she wouldn’t get out of the car. I think she does not like Boston.</p>

<p>For me, NYU wasnt impressive. It used to be my first choice/dream school, but after i spent a week there the more i felt insecure as time passed. And after that i changed my mind. Maybe its more the city that i didnt like but the school as well. Just not my taste. But then again this is just me.</p>

<p>My daughter crossed off Clark College after she saw the rough surrounding neighborhood, and learned that the college provided security vans to transport students through the neighborhood. She basically just wanted us to turn the car around and drive away. We have had friends whose kids went to Clark and had a wonderful experience, but it did feel like a walled-in compound. </p>

<p>She also crossed off Hobart - William Smith because she, “didn’t want to go to a Girl’s School”. I found this one to be terribly unfortunate, because I loved HWS and thought it would be a good place for her. I tried pointing out that the two colleges were completely merged in every way, except for athletics, and there was only one women-only dorm. She just could not bear the thought of getting a William Smith diploma.</p>

<p>Post 2072: I’m curious as to where you D ended up. We are planning a visit to Princeton and Penn. My son has a friend or two at Princeton and we are also planning to visit the Evangelical Fellowship there. I am prepared to like it despite it being a totally different world from our very working class neighborhood and lives.</p>

<p>My son visited U of Chicago and felt the atmosphere was too cold; that is, people were not particularly friendly except for one professor.</p>

<p>^And Chicago’s atmosphere is physically very cold as well. :P</p>

<p>BU. Despite our family’s long history living in and near Boston, when we took our son for an official visit we all realized that it just doesn’t have a cohesive campus feel. We were positively surprised by Northeastern’s campus, which has come a long way since I attended another college in Boston 30 years ago, although in the end he chose a very small LAC in the mid-South.</p>

<p>True but the cold seems to be something my son doesn’t mind…but he’s never lived in it so that may be wishful thinking!</p>

<p>D1 (interested in engineering schools) : we are from Texas and she only wanted to look at schools where the weather is warm. I will list all schools we visited due to this reason.
However, after all of the below visits, we convinced her to at least LOOK at Colorado School of Mines. She was very reluctant, but agreed. we flew up there in September, but of course she knew it would be a cold weather place. Everything changed for her after that visit. It was a two day visit and she got a fever and was sick the last half of the visit, which could have really soured her, however, upon leaving the school’s campus, it was THE school for her. Even after her acceptance into UT Austin’s engineering major, she could never get excited about any other school so she ended up matriculating at Mines, is a sophomore there, deep into a very difficult curriculum, but she LOVES it. </p>

<p>(her critiques not mine unless stated)
UT Austin: eventually just too big for her, and too many people going to this school from her high school. She wanted to start over and not run into a lot of familiar faces.</p>

<p>Texas A & M: same as UT, too big and way too close to home, and also too many people from her high school attending. </p>

<p>USC: Too artsy. We had a private tour with a great guide. Didn’t like surrounding area outside of campus.</p>

<p>Harvery Mudd: Ugly campus. ** see below, because D2 has applied to this school and it’s one she likes a lot.** Too small. Seemed too hard for her.</p>

<p>U of Arizona: Nice campus. Great visit with an engineering professor. Probably would have loved it, she ultimately decided to go with Mines, though. Gave merit money which didn’t sway her.</p>

<p>Arizona State U: she wanted to love it. They’d organized a great visitors day. She felt it wasn’t academically challenging enough, seemed too much like a party school, dorms were tiny rooms and horrible. Crossed off her list that day.</p>

<p>Rose-Hulman: (we didn’t get to visit this school and found out about it too late in the application process, so she did apply and was accepted with $15K per year merit scholarship. Probably might have been similar to Mines, except it’s private. I felt she would have received better instruction at this school, but colorado weather won out over Indiana.</p>

<p>Now to D2 (a senior in High school currently): mostly all LACs </p>

<p>Note: D prefers the rural schools which are “isolated” and away from urban distractions, so many we visited were not urban locations.</p>

<p>WILLIAMS: Awesome tour guide. Classroom visit - students very friendly, she liked that only 12 students were in the class, teacher friendly, challenging discussion and lots of input during class. Beautiful location. Parents Did NOT see inside any dorms, however she did… many singles even for first years, which she sees as a negative because she wants a roommate…So much to do on campus life outside of classes ++
(now for parents’ view: husband and I thought that the students weren’t overly friendly to us while we were sitting in the dining area waiting while she went to a class) Vibe was Intellectual. Didn’t feel overly preppy…we didn’t know if it would or not. This school remains at the top of her list. we are awaiting decision on acceptance.</p>

<p>MIDDLEBURY: Amazing food, didn’t find students friendly in the dining hall to visitors, though. Beautiful campus according to husband and I. D not impressed by much at this school, just didn’t feel like a “fit” she said. </p>

<p>BATES: Sitting in on a class, students were not as open and friendly to her (as compared to Williams) and she wasn’t as interested. Nice dorms. Only school where students were taken on a tour SEPARATED from parents, so all parents stayed with one guide and students went with the other. Did not like surrounding area near campus. Not rural enough for her. DID NOT APPLY. (wanted to like this school due to inclusive nature and no frats/sororities) Around campus people seemed friendlier than at Williams, but this was my husband’s and my opinion, not our D’s.</p>

<p>BOWDOIN: spring break so no students on campus. She loves this school and isn’t even sure exactly what is keeping it high on her list. Great location near Maine coast. Info session very positive experience, admissions officers spoke to each student in the room going around having each name something about themselves that couldn’t be found on their resume. Some students were unable to come up with things to say that couldn’t be found on the resume, often resorting to naming their favorite EC. D loved that the students who did come up with things off their resume seemed interesting and she could see wanting to make friends. (these were prospies,though)</p>

<p>DARTMOUTH: Great tour guide. She adored this school. It remains at the top of her list, and is the only IVY she visited. We liked that frats/sorority rush doesn’t even occur until the sophomore year. Outing club opportunities seem hard to beat. She loved the D Plan and that all sophomores stay on campus after that year during the summer for a school term. Excellent info session. </p>

<p>DAVIDSON: Liked/Did apply. only negatives for her were the eating houses. School was not in session during our visit, so no class visit, didn’t see students around. Liked the way roommates are matched according to MBTI questionairre. Dorms seem great. Nice athletic facility.</p>

<p>KENYON: liked but didn’t end up applying. Despite gorgeous campus, D didn’t get a feel for a fit here. Most beautiful Athletic facility we’ve seen. Nice campus. Husband and I liked the faculty a lot. Visited for a summer science day. D did like the students available on campus who she spoke with and who she interviewed with.</p>

<p>OBERLIN: D loved mostly, husband and I felt that it would not be a fit but tried to keep quiet and let her apply. After she applied, a number of people have told her that students there are more artsy, hippie vibe, lots of piercings etc. and these adults have said they don’t think she’ll fit in with the dominant culture there. Our D is musical and loved this aspect of Oberlin. We found the campus to appear dirty, buildings dirty, unappealing. D loved her tour guide and interviewer. Old library. Maybe too close to Cleveland for her taste. Excellent info session.</p>

<p>SEWANEE: no students on campus during visit. LOVED, Applied. D didn’t expect to like this school, didn’t think she would be impressed. Isolation a big plus for her, size of campus 13,000 acres, gorgeous. Athletic facilities just average. Likes that there is only one dining hall, so community feels very tight-knit. Although it’s a large acreage, getting from one side of the campus to other isn’t that hard, it’s not that spread out. some dorms have no a/c, some dorms are single sex with matrons living in them. (she didn’t like that) She liked that students dress for class, but didn’t observe it, and she liked the idea of COMPs for seniors, seems academically challenging. Great professors.</p>

<p>HARVEY MUDD: Everyone lives on campus. (this is a plus for D)
Pass/Fail/High pass first semester to help students transition in to program. We liked this. We visited during spring break so no students on campus. Very large dorms, but not overly pretty. Average food only. Faculty and Admissions people we spoke with were friendly, helpful. We liked that they emphasize how important it is to make sure it’s a personal fit for student before attending. Recently many more women attend, so it’s close to 65% men. 35% women. overall. Very small campus. Did not see other Claremont schools.</p>

<p>" Maybe too close to Cleveland for her taste. "
The other issues may be germane, but this one isn’t, trust me. A lot of the students probably never go in there, and it’s not that easy to get places without a car. Still, nice to have, eg if that one big concert is coming through, IMO. But completely optional, and does not affect campus vitality in the least. </p>

<p>Personally I thought the campus looked lovely, but to each their own I guess. On the other hand, probably I never went inside too many classroom buildings, just a couple dorms.</p>

<p>Well, shock of shocks, just took d (who insisted she only wanted a green, leafy campus with big stone walls) to see NYU and she loved it. I sometimes wonder if their mouths and brains are connected at all.</p>

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As our kids would say (or text), ROFLMAO</p>