Colleges you/child crossed off the list after visiting

<p>I’m not a ■■■■■ but a longtime lurker who really needs to put LeechBlock on this site because I spend WAY too much time here!!!</p>

<p>Daughter went on a college tour last spring, and we have visited a few schools on our own:</p>

<p>UC RIVERSIDE: “Everyone looked sad there and told us they were redirects (after having applied to other campuses of the Univ. of Calif.) and wanted to be elsewhere.”</p>

<p>UNIV. of SAN DIEGO (the Catholic school): “Students were walking alone and talking into their cells.”</p>

<p>UC Irvine: “Ugly.”</p>

<p>LOYOLA MARYMOUNT: Too preppy; her image of SoCal with a lot of girls wearing Hollister and the like. (Their brochures seemed to have the most attractive students of any I’ve seen!)</p>

<p>UC SANTA BARBARA: “The frat guy who talked to me looked like a god!!! But it’s too much of a party school to me.”</p>

<p>WHITTIER: “It felt like high school, especially the way the Psychology professor was talking to the class; the students should have learned how to make presentations in high school.” She sat in on a class, and the professor told the kids to make eye contact, not just read their notes, etc. We found notices in the restrooms reminding students that they needed to start preparing for finals, visit the academic support center, etc. The school is and has been working to increase its retention rate so I guess this hand holding is part of that effort. Both students and professors were quite friendly and sat with us at lunch. A friend whose dad was a professor there and whose daughter will be attending Whittier this fall said, “The facilities have a Quaker vibe; they are not luxurious but they get the job done.” I didn’t “get it” until we visited Occidental. Whittier is nice and adequate, but most definitely does not exude $$$$. </p>

<p>OCCIDENTAL: “My dream school but I don’t think I will apply.” Why? The guide’s course load was six or seven classes, she was involved in varsity sports, working, and was in a sorority or otherwise had a social life, and DD felt intimidated by such over-achievement, especially the extra heavy course load. </p>

<p>UCLA: Too big.</p>

<p>USC: Too big; sketchy part of town. (But actually, she’s also considering Clark in Worcester, MA because she finds the city appealing, although she has never visited.)</p>

<p>ST. MARY’S in Moraga, CA: Too close to home.</p>

<p>UC BERKELEY: Too close to home. Huge. </p>

<p>Places visited and still on the list:</p>

<p>Pitzer College: Beautiful; especially loved the dorms. Really good cafeteria food like Occidental’s. Did not seem overly or especially hippie, but then we’re from NoCal so maybe don’t see those things. Was inspired by students’ campus projects. Walked around campus but did not attend any other Claremont College tour. Pitzer seemed to be the best fit.</p>

<p>UC Santa Cruz: I didn’t think my city kid would like the redwood trees as much as she did; she said the school looked like summer camp. The students looked <em>normal</em> to her and not particularly hippie. We didn’t make it to the college with the highest concentration of students in the arts, so we didn’t see any or many artsy looking types. The school IS extremely spread out.</p>

<p>Sonoma State: Great dorms, nice looking campus. Supposedly, we saw the <em>worst</em> dorm and not the apartment style ones with granite counters. The new music center is GORGEOUS but quite a hike from the rest of the campus. SSU is supposed to be the CSU most like a private college. For some reason we missed the dorm dining hall and were horrified by the dreadful food in the campus pub and the limited food in the <em>Commons</em>. We found the dining hall after we ate, and she pronounced the food to be <em>normal</em>, so Sonoma State will remain as our financial and academic safety school.</p>

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<p>“(But actually, she’s also considering Clark in Worcester, MA because she finds the city appealing, although she has never visited.)”</p>

<p>HAHAHAHA! I am sorry, and I especially apologize to folks in Worcester, but I have NEVER heard Worcester (and especially the neighborhood where Clark is located) described as a positive about Clark.</p>

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<p>Hey akapiratequeen ^ This is the parents forum. We play nice here.</p>

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<p>I am very sorry! Truly did not mean to offend. I thought it might be helpful to the previous poster to know that the city has issues. I will be happy to delete the post.</p>

<p>Can’t seem to find a way to edit/delete–please let me know if you know how I can edit.</p>

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<p>That’s the bad thing about having second thoughts on this site - no editing allowed after a certain amount of time. I learned that lesson in my first year of posting and was happy to have the un-editable post scroll away.</p>

<p>I was just thinking about my niece, and other seniors, who have Clark on their short list. I thought the area around Clark was a little sketchy but Worcester itself looked like a pretty interesting city to my son and I. To each his own.[Museums</a> & Galleries | Worcester, Massachusetts](<a href=“Home - WCC”>Home - WCC)</p>

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<p>Um… We must not be on the same Parents Forum, or else you have never visited any of the many threads that have been deleted for too much acid and acrimony among mature parents :D.</p>

<p>@akapiratequeen: Couldn’t agree more with you about Worcester. Have never heard anyone say anything nice about it, including those who have lived there.</p>

<p>D1-Fell in love with Kenyon-reach for her-admitted-thrilled to be there. Started looking at transfer schools on winter break.</p>

<p>Variety of reasons, including:
1-Small, isolated (in beautiful setting, though)-translates to limited social opportunities-OK if you find your niche, but lonely if you don’t. </p>

<p>2-Discovered there were limited academic opportunities in both of the areas she was interested in pursuing. In retrospect this really gave us something to think about. With a small LAC many depts can have just a few faculty members, whose interests may not match yours. It never occurred to us to check whether either of the two faculty members teaching her chosen foreign language were interested in fluency, as opposed to scholarly examination of centuries of literature, but there you go. (Her other interest also turned out to be a bad fit, but she subsequently admitted that people had told her this, but she
was too in love with the school to pay attention.)</p>

<p>Transferred to Barnard (applied sight unseen based on Mom’s recc.), loves it!</p>

<p>D2 (waiting for results)-Went on tour at Brown, left halfway through - just didn’t click with it and felt the guides were too focused on letting everyone know how special and wonderful they were.</p>

<p>Visited U of Chicago because their website made much of their Drama program. Tour guide knew nothing about it, so when we got back to Admissions we asked the staff there - none of them knew anything about a Drama major. Three of them diligently looked through the school’s catalogue and couldn’t find it. So that was it for them.</p>

<p>akapiratequeen, I thought your comments were very much in keeping with the spirit of this thread. Our son applied to RPI and the best thing we can say about Worcester is that our younger son LOVED the Armory Museum. [Higgins</a> Armory Museum](<a href=“Higgins - Register You@Higgins.org and Own Your Identity! | MailPlanet.com”>http://www.higgins.org/) :)</p>

<p>My daughters professors say Worcester is very large and many things go untapped like their museums. I found this link, but haven’t visited any of them yet. The art musuem is always given rave reviews.
[Things</a> to Do in Worcester - Worcester Attractions - TripAdvisor](<a href=“http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g41952-Activities-Worcester_Massachusetts.html]Things”>http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g41952-Activities-Worcester_Massachusetts.html)
I did get a little lost around her college and ended up near Clark, which was sketchy, but I remember my son had Clark in his top 5 years ago, he thought other things outweighed it.
We live in an urban city, so maybe although it’s not as depressing as Worcester, it isn’t a shock as if we came from the suburbs.</p>

<p>I also want to speak up for Clark University.</p>

<p>I visited and liked what I saw very much.</p>

<p>It has a more serious, intellectual vibe (no Greeks, sports are not big, focus on student research), yet it is still within reach for someone who wants to go to a rigorous LAC (like Vassar maybe?) and doesn’t have the stats.</p>

<p>Vassar incidentally, is in Poughkeepsie, which has a similar (if not worse) vibe to Worcester and many love it there anyway!</p>

<p>While we used to refer to Poughkeepsie as the armpit of Dutchess County, there were shops/restaurants right by Vassar’s campus are cute and where most students go. Also, there are some beautiful places to go along the Hudson river, and its a trainride away from NYC.</p>

<p>Worcester (Woosta) is a good sized city - which implies there will be a sketchy element involved - at least in certain areas. It’s not an attractive place and it gets more than the state’s share of snowfall. But, it’s a great college town which hosts WPI, Holy Cross, Clark, Worcester State, Assumption, U MA Medical School & the MA college of Pharmacy. Because of this, the city offers a young and vibrant night scene and a bunch of social opportunities for students. It’s less than an hour to Boston by bus or train if you’re looking for more cultural opps…but I wouldn’t rule out some of the wonderful educational opportunities available there, based on the city, alone.</p>

<p>Mathmom:</p>

<p>Did you mean WPI in Worester? RPI is in New York…my S2 will be looking at both in the next year or so…heard WPI is in a slightly better part of town from Clark?!! Now I’ll be going in to look with eyes wide open…oy.</p>

<p>Clark is a GREAT school and I absolutely wouldn’t dis it! It was one of my son’s top three–he ended up elsewhere because he got better financial support, but I have no doubt he would have been happy there. </p>

<p>Anyone who saw my comments as insulting to Clark, please accept my apologies. I was just laughing because I had never heard of Worcester as a <em>reason</em> for going to Clark. To me it’s like Poughkeepsie (or for that matter, New Haven, where I went to school) – some good points, but I wouldn’t choose the school on the basis of the city!</p>

<p>Ooops mistyped. My son applied to both schools. I thought the area around WPI seemed fine, though I think we drove by Clark at some point. A number of my nieces and nephews liked and considered Clark though they ended up elsewhere. I’ve been meaning to go to the Worcester Art museum for years and years. (Worcester is on my way to visit family in southern NH.) Unfortunately my kids consider being dragged to art museums torture so it never happened.</p>

<p>Funny that my son is considering Colleges in three of the last cities named - Worcester, New Haven and Poughkeepsie! Good thing he doesn’t read CC.</p>

<p>Different strokes for different folks. I lived in parts of New Haven most of my life, I see the bad things, but also all the culture, great shops, restaurants, people.
My son liked Clark and loved Pysch which would have been a good fit, but $$ was very limited for him there. He went to a college that was gorgeous in a small town that was very pretty, but he said at times, it was “boring”. : )</p>

<p>I just had to come back and report. Several posts back I related that my son had disliked Vassar because we were told that there is a rule against climbing the magnificent old trees. At the time I thought that this was a very silly reason to cross a college off the list. Last night I was talking to my college freshman son and asked him how he was. He replied that he was fine except for having a twisted ankle. I asked him what had happened (thinking it would probably be rugby or skiing), he said he had fallen out of a tree. Oh my.</p>

<p>kathiep–I LOVED my four years in New Haven, and my ex-husband LOVED his four years in Poughkeepsie. Either can be a great place to go to school!</p>

<p>Hey, akapiratequeen, I thought at least a few folks would be amused re DD’s (and my) finding Worcester a PLUS, at least in theory. Our orientation is that we happen to live in a city where others think we have drive-bys everywhere and constantly. No, that’s a problem in some neighborhoods but not ours, and a few blocks over sometimes gets hit with graffiti. Cities can have cheap, family owned restaurants; more interesting than chains. Also, kiddo knows how to get around by bus.</p>