Colleges your child crossed off the list after visiting, schools that moved up on the list. Why? (NO REPLIES)

Pitt - Way up

S26 had two days off of school for Election Day so the family took a trip to Pittsburgh. We have a relative that teaches at Pitt so we spent 3 nights at the University Hilton Garden Inn - got to explore Pittsburgh quite a bit and just walking around so close to campus provided a good impression of the daily student life.

We attended both the general campus tour in the morning and a presentation from the School of Computing (SCI) in the afternoon. I highly recommend doing both- the Pitt “campus” is very urban and it’s quite difficult to tell what’s a school building versus private property. The walking tour did give a good overview of that. The SCI was a simple PowerPoint presentation that covered the nuts and bolts of the program. At the end of the day we had a good idea what a normal day would look like for him.

S26 loved the overall feel of the urban campus. The Cathedral of Learning particularly impressed but the opportunity to continue playing an instrument in an orchestra is there, SCI meets all the needs and the May-mester opportunity for study abroad was appealing. Cultural and sporting opportunities in the city abound, public transportation seems accessible and easy to get around.

We also strolled through the Carnegie Mellon campus nearby this weekend - they were off school for Election Day, so no opportunity for a formal tour. The CMU campus is a much more traditional college campus, fairly closed off to vehicles and self-contained. My son much preferred the energy and vibe of the Pitt campus. The opportunity to compare and contrast campus feels right next to each other was pretty cool!

The only real negative was the dorm they showed in one of the towers. We didn’t visit one of the LLCs, but will definitely want to check them out if he gets in next year, simply to have a better living situation. He did not like the towers…

Overall Pitt seemed like a fantastic match for S26. He’ll be applying next year for sure and will hopefully get some decent merit. It’s not the most affordable option we’ve looked at!

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We still have a lot to visit, but the one school that I think is officially off and will stay off is Swarthmore. I really thought it could be a great match for our daughter (though I had some reservations about its intense reputation). As soon as we pulled in, she knew. We walked around but she just wasn’t feeling it. And honestly, neither were we. I was so so disappointed. I tried to be upbeat and positive…”oh, look at all the puzzles here in the student commons. I love puzzles!” “Oh, the roses are in bloom, how lovely!”

Her father commented that he wouldn’t mind spending time there when he retires. D was uncomfortable the entire time. It may have been late August so campus was a bit quiet. Perhaps it’s more joyful when campus is very active.

I’ve tried negotiating a revisit, but she has crossed it off and won’t look back.

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University of San Francisco (USF)

D26 visited USF this week since it’s close to home.

The campus is pretty and D absolutely LOVED the location, in a nice part of the city with great access to everything that the city has to offer. She also liked the vibe. One of the things USF says about itself is that it’s very “diverse” and D did feel that it seemed diverse and welcoming for a wide range of folks. The people that she met seemed cheerful and friendly. D said “it felt more like a public school, and that’s a good thing”; she often gets the feeling that private schools have a snooty vibe. Classes at USF are on the small side, and she got the impression there was good access to professors and research. Good place for pre-health majors due to proximity to major medical centers and UCSF. Lots of study abroad opportunities and students encouraged to study abroad.

D asked about music, and was disappointed that they don’t seem to have an orchestra (at least the people she asked didn’t think they had one). Someone said they had practice rooms in the dorms, at least. If D does apply to USF, she would have to make a plan to get involved with some other youth orchestra in the area.

D also felt that the school and campus was “small.” This is a mid sized school with about 6000 undergraduates (I think). She is starting to think that she probably wants either a huge school with tens of thousands of undergraduates, or an extremely well resourced mid sized school that has a strong graduate program and similar resources to the huge schools.

In general, she could see how the school could be perfect for some people, but not quite what she wants. She probably won’t apply, but the visit felt positive anyway :slight_smile:

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University of Redlands - Way Up! We attended Discover Redlands Day and they knocked it out of the park. It was very well organized with presentations from the university president, a faculty panel, alumni, the community service office, and the career center.

The faculty panel included information on the Johnston Center for Integrative Studies, which D25 isn’t interested in, but could be a great option for the right student. Students design their own major and can receive written evaluations instead of letter grades.

The Community Service Office presented on the Community Service Learning Internship graduation requirement. D25 liked how community service is emphasized and even woven into courses during Mayterm.

The campus is beautiful. It was a perfect fall day and we had a great view of the ‘R’ on the mountains above campus. It is supposed to be one of the largest collegiate letters in the country.

We also attended a football game where they lost a close one to Pomona/Pitzer and a very exciting women’s basketball game where they defeated #17 ranked Transylvania.

D25 loved the whole day and the ‘on-the-spot’ admissions sealed the deal. She received preliminary admission based on her transcript. Official admission will come later after they review her entire application.

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S26 and I took a weekend trip to Chicago to see two reach schools.

UChicago – WAY UP! S loved everything about it. The campus is gorgeous and he loved the city location. The info session was entertaining and informative. It was just one AO presenting, but she managed to hold his attention for the entire time, he even put his phone away. S really liked the idea of the core. This is a kid who strongly disliked the pre-professional, internship-focused schools, so Chicago, being pretty much the opposite, seems like a great fit. Our tour guide was an engineering and creative writing double major, who was really into poetry. My kid was kind of inspired. Really liked the idea of the quarter system, which allows to take more classes throughout the year. Loved the availability of research opportunities, with many kids apparently getting involved in the freshman year. Loved the housing system and the fact that they did not even mention the frats on the tour. He loved Chicago too and was excited to explore another city (we’re in NYC). I think this may be a top contender for ED.

Northwestern – same/up - they did not really have an info session, just a short video that was basically a school commercial. The campus was very pretty, with a beautiful sparkling lake. My son thought it felt it a bit too quiet, especially for a Monday. We saw very few students outside of the tour. Our tour guide was good, but we didn’t really learn much about the school we didn’t already know. She talked about how many kids like being close to the city while not actually being in it. My kid said he liked the school enough to want learn more but he would rather be in the city.

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Three tours over the last six weeks for D26.

Tulsa - SLIGHTLY DOWN. We did a quick visit with a private campus tour in the summer, and D26 really liked it, so hopes were high for this longer preview day for juniors. It was fine, but honestly I think the expectations were too high, and she came away a little disappointed.

The day began with a warmup activity for the attendee families, who were then divided into three groups that rotated among sessions on the Honors College, the Library, and Career Services. In keeping with the school’s recent focus on high achievers and National Merit Scholars, the whole morning had a very studious, academic feel. The Honors session in particular featured multiple professors and a current student talking passionately about the intense engagement of Honors students in deep thinking about profound questions. For life-of-the-mind kids, this would’ve been really exciting, but that isn’t D26’s vibe, so she was sort of indifferent. The Library session was fine, but a missed opportunity - I would’ve used that time to have students representing a variety of campus clubs talk to attendees about Greek life, intramurals, varsity sports, music/theater opportunities, etc. etc. There really wasn’t much during the day about non-academic campus life, which is important to most kids. The Career Services session wasn’t memorable.

After the sessions, there were campus walking tours. We’d already done that previously, and this was similar except that there really was no time allotted for questions. Our guide was cheerful and informative, but she had so much material to cover in her script that she really never stopped talking. I had a few questions along the way, and finally I just interrupted her to ask one of them before the group moved on. D26 said later that she had a few also as we encountered things along the tour, but just didn’t bother b/c it didn’t seem like there was time for that. One cool feature - they have food delivery robots that deliver to the dorms upon request. Another - they have on-campus apartments that many upperclassmen choose to live in, so the large majority of the student body resides on campus.

Lunch was served (a plus), with a current student at every table to talk about their experience at TU. This was helpful in a way, but by that point, everyone was tired and it honestly would’ve been preferable to just have a few minutes to ourselves to regroup and compare notes. The day ended with a “colleges fair” where reps from each academic unit were on hand to answer questions about the various fields under their umbrellas. We bailed out early, as D26 isn’t sure enough on a particular academic direction to have specific questions.

The big drawback of the day for D26 was the lack of fine arts info, especially music. She probably won’t be a music major, but she really wants to participate in music extracurriculars, and there just wasn’t any mention of that whole realm of activities. The most we got was, “Oh, there’s an activities fair every year on this quad, all of the clubs and groups set up tables and you’ll find plenty to do.” Probably true, but I would’ve liked to hear a little more.

Southwestern - DOWN AND OFF. To be fair, I’m the one who generally puts these schools on the long list for consideration in the first place, so it’s not as if D26 was a huge fan and then suddenly reversed course - she knew little about Southwestern before the tour. But it became clear pretty quickly that it wasn’t for her.

The 2-hr afternoon event began with the tour and then ended with an info session, the reverse of pretty much every other campus visit we’ve had. The tour was OK, but already things were going downhill. The classroom that we visited was dim and unpleasant - butter-yellow walls and outdated wood trim, crowded with too many tiny desks. In fact, many spaces on campus were pale yellow, which did not resonate with D26. Our guide was a recruited athlete who didn’t seem to really come alive until the part of the tour that covers athletic facilities and intramurals, which she is clearly passionate about. D26 isn’t an athlete, so that didn’t leave the best impression. It also became clear at some point that every person on the tour was from Texas, and D26 would really prefer a school with kids from lots of different places (ideally not located in TX, but that’s another story).

The info session wisely focused on the school’s location in Georgetown, TX, about 45 minutes north of Austin. There are countless opportunities for outdoor activities nearby, including a natural spring-fed swimming hole right in Georgetown, and the nightlife and internships of Austin are close by. The rest was mostly taken straight from the website, except the admissions rep did reveal that their recruitment strategy going forward is to double-down on Texas students. Currently, they are about 88% Texans, and they expect that number to go up in coming years.

One headscratcher - they apparently make no effort to water the grassy areas on campus, so in dry years (which is most years nowadays), the “grass” is mostly yellow husks interspersed with bare dirt patches. I guess that could be a good thing, in that they don’t use their water resources on landscaping, but it’s amazing how negatively it affected our impression of campus. When the grass is dead, the whole place feels dead.

Trinity U - UP. Excitement was minimal for this one, as we were coming off a bit of a dud at a similar school (S’western) and this began at 8:00 AM. But the day started strong with a good tour. The guide was very calm and pleasant, and very open to questions. The campus is really lovely, with a consistent architectural style and winding stairways among plentiful live oak trees. There’s a community garden maintained by a student club that harvests the vegetables for use in the campus dining hall. We learned that D26 cares quite a bit about campus walkways! Brick and stone are preferred, and patterned or stained concrete is fine, but ordinary concrete sidewalks are bland and boring. Who knew?!?!?

The info session was mostly standard info from the website, but the last sentence of the presentation was key: music scholarships, which are available to non-majors, can be stacked with academic merit money. This is an important data point for D26, an aspiring vocalist who probably needs a little more than the highest academic merit to make this school affordable.

Next came the academic departments fair, which was more helpful than the Tulsa version because individual departments were represented - not just an “arts and sciences” rep, but dozens of professors representing individual departments. We learned a lot about choral groups for non-majors.

At this point, there really should have been a lunch provided (it was 11:45 and the event was 3.5 hours and counting), but no…there was a 45-minute student panel. It was fine, but we were tired and hungry and mostly checked out. At the conclusion, we and others who had registered in advance were invited to attend a Trinity football game on campus for free with a concession stand voucher for “lunch,” but that sounded like too much work and not enough food. So we left campus and ate at a local burger joint nearby, which was excellent.

The event was too long, but prior to the exhaustion, D26 liked Trinity quite a bit. It’s on the larger side for an LAC (~2500), which she has discovered that she likes, and they have great music opportunities that include non-major scholarships. And unlike our friends at another small college in Texas that rhymes with “Jouthwestern,” Trinity is proud to welcome students from 47 states and 58 countries. It’s moved way up the list.

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We visited UVM as part of a NE swing of schools - Rochester, RIT, Ithica, Connecticut College, Marist, Vassar, Union, Hamilton, Middlebury and UVM - in June of '23. My kid had targeted NE and PNW for schools, with an eye on small private, liberal arts schools to start in the Fall of '24.

Scheduling had us hit Burlington late Friday afternoon and four days in town, with tour and information session on Tuesday. UVM was the lone public R1 on the list - my doing, because a friend whose son went there recommened it and I talked with both about it (sone graduated and was moving back to Burlington soon).

I loved Burlington. It reminded me of what Madison, WI, was like 30 years ago (in the best possible way). Lovely little city that has so much going on and a great downtown.

As for the school, we were all impressed. As noted, their strategy is OOS kids because Vermont itself is not producing enough traditional high school graduates. But there were families from all over the U.S. - not just the NE like other schools we hit on this trip - as well as international travelers. Lovely campus, great combination of UG, grad and professional programs there. Surrounded by wonderful beauty.

In the end, UVM was a final four choice for our kid and opened his eyes to larger schools (and publics) as three of the four were public R1s - never would have guess that was even a possibility when the search began.

As for me, Burlington is on the list for possible reitrement.

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Since my initial post, we’ve been to three more open houses. I think this is it for now.

Salve Regina: Down but not off, an unlikely contender

  • This is due more to my daughter deciding she wants a school in a quieter area with more nature around. But if your child wants to be in walking distance to non-school amenities, it’s in a great spot. It’s a lovely neighborhood. We also don’t think she’ll get adequate aid, but she’ll revisit if she gets a tuition exchange scholarship.
  • Otherwise, we have only good things to say. The setting and campus are gorgeous-I love old buildings and there are plenty of those. We had perfect weather which didn’t hurt.
  • The president spoke and I liked her- I got the sense that she is dedicated to the school and its mission.
  • The students and faculty we met were really friendly and helpful. I don’t remember the title of the speaker who talked about the curriculum, but we got a genuine vibe from him.
  • The curriculum is well thought out - they have a Compass Curriculum which is a term I’ve seen a few times.
  • Overall, we had a positive experience. If anything changes and my daughter decides to attend, we will feel confident about her choice.

Wheaton College (MA): Still on the list, maybe a little less interested.

  • We both had high hopes, but I think the visit fell a little flat, and not for any one reason. The campus is beautiful and well-maintained, but it was hard to get a real feel for the place. It was Veteran’s Day, and we didn’t see many students around, so maybe that was a factor.
  • We liked the speakers, which included the president. I always appreciate when the president attends these events because they have busy schedules and I like to hear their perspective. There was a combined financial aid/admissions presentation and the speakers shared some useful information.
  • We also attended an academic panel for students interested in the arts and communications, which is my daughter’s likely major. Their Digital Communications program looks interesting and well thought out, but there wasn’t any faculty from that department present. But we both liked the professors-they all came across as genuinely liking their work and the students. Most of them had been at Wheaton for a very long time.

Drew University: Also still on the list, maybe less interested.

  • The campus is beautiful. Breakfast was being served in the dining hall, so we got to eat and have coffee. We saw people (probably faculty) circulating but we didn’t talk with anyone which was fine.
  • It was a surprisingly large event, given that it’s a smaller school (around 2k students I think) but they broke us into groups.
  • We attended a presentation with the president, a student, and someone from admissions (I think). I liked the president-she only spoke briefly but it sounded like she enjoyed engaging with the students.
  • We also attended a student panel, which could have been very informative. It was held in the dining hall, which was a terrible location. The acoustics were bad and there were students having breakfast as well, so there was a lot of unrelated noise. It was hard to hear the students and I felt bad for them, as I could tell that they were well-prepared.
  • There was an area with tables for their many programs, but we didn’t venture over because it was so crowded.^ But they had a build-a-bear type activity where you could stuff a bear or a squirrel and add a Drew University tee shirt. That was fun.

^Not all the schools do them, but we always find the “fair” aspect of open houses useful-they are great for gathering information about academic and non-academic amenities. It’s helpful to talk with people and collect booklets/flyers, etc. But with one exception (SUNY New Paltz) schools seem to cram these things into spaces that are way too small. I’m not a germaphobe, but it is flu season, and I feel like schools undoubtedly have ample space to spread these offerings out. My daughter was coming down with a cold when we went to Salve, so I ended up walking around and picking up information for her because she didn’t want to get too close to people.

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We are right in the middle. Toured a bunch. Likely touring a bunch more. As if I need an excuse to travel.

Yale- WAY Up. I was hoping she’d not love it. The vibe is all her. Fantastic tour guide. Obviously gorgeous campus. She loved the residential colleges idea. We toured in April when all the flowers bloomed. It was stunning. It’s a hard reach for her. But she’ll shoot her shot I’m sure.

George Washington university- WAY up as well. She loved it. Urban feel was her jam and it’s a good target school for her. She’s considering international relations and you can’t beat the location for that! We spent the week in DC and had a great time so that helped. Our tour guide, IMO was very sorority party girl and I was surprised my nerdy introvert connected so well with her. It was a large group but my D26 chatted with her quite a bit. This school went up for us, the parents, as well. We’ve lived the last few decades in Maine in a rural area so I was wary of a city school but I loved the area as well.

Georgetown- about neutral. Pretty campus and beautiful neighborhood. I found everything a tad pretentious and the AO emphasized how ALL test scores must be submitted (in contrast to test optional at others) and it felt like they were weeding out applicants with the presentation. Then when we toured upper class dorms the empty beer cans covering the patio was a face palm moment. My daughter liked it but she knew she would. She was in love with the aesthetic.

Boston college- up to nearly as high as Yale. But likely just as hard to get into. The location did it for her. Pretty campus. Friendly tour guide. This is the only school she insisted we get a hoodie at the bookstore. I liked it but I think it’s yet another reach school. Sigh.

Boston university- down and off. Immediate visceral reaction during the tour for both of us. Loud. Hot. Impersonal. Boring presentation. Just not her vibe.

Wellesley- neutral for D26. I thought it was amazing. She thought it wasn’t urban enough. Sigh. It felt so nurturing. She wasn’t enthusiastic before touring. She wasn’t enthusiastic after. Sigh. I want to go back to school just to go there. Welcoming and warm. Just what I would want for her. Sigh. But she’s running this show. She likely will apply to appease me but unless she got some amazing aid offer I don’t think she’d go. Sob!!!

Drive through of Williams and Amherst. Not urban enough for Williams at all. She MAY tour Amherst to give it a fair shake. We have family in the area and I figure we can squeeze in a tour (along with smith and mount Holyoke) while we visit them. Not much effort for 3 tours. I don’t want her to brush off the convenience of having cousins within a 45 minute drive. But I suspect all 3 will be a “no”. She wants less mountains and snow, more city and sun.

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Brown. About neutral. Her great grandfather went there and talked about it for as far back as D26 can remember. I was neutral about the school. Tour guide was okay. Campus was clean. Providence is great, at least that area. The drive is a total pain from Maine. To close to fly. No direct trains without an Uber midway between north and south station. But d26 liked the look of the students. They were quirky and nerdy. Which is kind of her vibe. Like the other ivies, it’s a reach. I liked providence other than the drive so she might look at other schools down there.

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UC Davis - up

D26 visited Davis a few times when her big brother S23 was looking at colleges (he kept going back and visiting it again because he liked it so much). Today was the first time she toured it herself. Because she had visited before, I didn’t expect that she would have much to say about her impressions after the tour. But she did tell me after the tour that “I feel quite a bit more positive about Davis now.”

She said that she noticed a lot of details on the tour she hadn’t paid attention to before. When we passed by the arts and crafts studios, she was impressed that glassblowing was mentioned as something students could try, along with the more usual ceramics etc. She liked how there are so many bikes and a large centrally located bike repair shop (the bike barn), and she thought it might be fun to work there and learn to repair bikes. She liked how the study abroad program had a wide range of tours and classes run by actual Davis professors. We also visited downtown Davis and she was happy with what she saw there.

During the info session, the presenter was emphasizing that it’s very easy to get involved at research at Davis. But of course many schools say this, and it’s hard to compare one school to another. So after our tour, we went and visited a friend who is a professor there, and asked her about that specifically. She said she does think it’s extremely easy to get involved in research, and encouraged D not to be afraid to approach professors, because “frequently there are even funded research positions that go unfilled because not enough students inquire about them.”

On the whole, D thinks she likes most everything about Davis except for the hot weather (it can get pretty hot in the summer and early fall).

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Miami University - I went to a conference so this is a parent perspective but I talked to A LOT of students.

LOCATION
Yes -there is no denying that Miami University is located in rural Ohio. To me -it’s the one downside. Yes, you MAY (depending on how Google sends you into town) see cows and one lane covered bridges.
HOWEVER --the town of Oxford is SO adorable. Cobblestone streets, cute little shops, a LOT of restaurants with a large variety. I had EXCELLENT Thai, Chinese, and Indian food while I was there. Also I’ve been told the milkshakes are AWESOME. Cute little shops too. VERY student centered (per observation AND discussion with students). You aren’t going to find big city amenities -but it’s a GREAT town. Outside of downtown -it’s nothing special. About an hour away from a decent sized city (Cincinnati).

CAMPUS:
This campus is gorgeous. Very walkable – felt safe. I walked inside the student center -and that is lovely. LOTS of students having meetings and using study spaces. Really felt very student friendly. Biology building – newer labs, again, lots of spaces for students -and the students were using those spaces. The new Health Sciences building is fabulous -great hands-on amenities for students. Speech Pathology/Audiology has it’s own clinic which is staffed by faculty. Simulation Centers for Nursing and other Health Sciences.

STUDENTS:
I talked to 5-10 students during my time there – random students at the coffee shop, on shuttle, on campus, in biology and speech pathology. EVERY one of them LOVED, LOVED, LOVED the school. They had a hard time figuring out anything bad to say about it. One finally said the freshman dorms were just okay but that she loved where she was living her second year on campus. Seriously - these students loved their school. Specifics from some majors: Biology - opportunities for research, good classes - some bigger entry level classes but still good. They LOVED their professors. Speech Pathology/Audiology – hands on learning starting early on. You do some work/observations in clinics with the same professors that you learn from in class. Again - nothing but rave reviews for the faculty. Direct entry program from what I could tell? Confirm this. One of the faculty said that most students who are interested get into the program (not super competitive).
Students were totally enamored with their school -and these weren’t students who were paid to be so! Keep in mind - I feel like this is a PWI --although there was SOME diversity.
Sports: It’s a mid-sized school so there are sports teams! Also (random note) --there is a skating rink ON CAMPUS and it seems like hockey is popular. Also some skating social events (for regular skating).

FACULTY:
Well I WAS at a teaching and learning conference -so it’s a select group. BUT the Miami University faculty are very student focused. Student learning is a BIG focus of the university, and the University President actually stopped by the conference to chat with us which I think was unusual for a teaching and learning conference. From what I can tell - money is devoted to teaching which is not always the case and shows the emphasis.

Other notes: Public university so in state is less expensive BUT they do have decent scholarships for out of state students especially students who are strong academically. It’s not super competitive to get into the school with decent academics. They do have an honors program.

Overall: I give this school high marks. You have to weight whether being in a small town is something that you (if you are the college applicant) or your child will enjoy (or at least tolerate) -but don’t dismiss it based on that alone.

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Gonzaga University

We visited Gonzaga over the break and were favorably impressed.

The campus was not spectacular, but it was nice and well maintained. Lots of newer buildings (mostly science and engineering) and the school seems to prioritize student amenities more than other schools.

The information session was done by an AO and was perfect. Probably the second best information session that we have seen after Washington and Lee.

Our tour guide was also an AO and she did a fabulous job. She was bubbly, knowledgeable and had a warm personality despite a very low energy tour group. I give her credit for that.

I was liked Spokane. The area immediately around the school is not great, but the downtown is 1 mile away and is very nice. One minor issue is that the school is “hemmed in” by Spokane and is running out of room to grow its small campus which is maybe only 150 acres.

My daughter had an admissions interview and the interviewer was a terrific, kind person. She also brought me into the last part of the interview and was able to answer my oddball questions.

One huge downside is that there were absolutely no students on campus. So the energy level was low and we rarely saw any people, much less students. Obviously, it is not a knock on the school, just the circumstances.

The school was better than expected and moved up on our list.

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We visited several schools over break, since schools were closed these were all self tours.

We also took a trip down to socal to visit the UCs. I had never set food on any of their campuses and S26 wanted to get a feel for what they were like. Here’s a quick recap.

UCLA - He loved it, and it’s his top choice now, unfortunately the acceptance rate from our school to UCLA is 8% so it’s unlikely he’d get in. I was surprised how full the campus was during a break, how big the campus store was and how many people were walking around in UCLA branded gear.

Harvey Mudd - Man was this out of town, a friend who attended the school scared S26 by talking about how hard it was and how much time he had to spend studying. Plus the far out location this might be off the list now.

UCI - He loved the mascot but hated the architecture, said it looked like Russia. They had some fancy dorms we walked by and he thought it would be great to be right in the middle of campus until he found out those dorms are 4 to a room.

UCSD - 2nd choice now, beating out UCSB. Location was great, they are building new dorms that will open this year. He said if he gets in UCB and UCSD it would be tough. In general he loved socal and is ready to be near a beach. There is a trolley going from campus to downtown San Diego which was nice.

USC - Wasn’t really planning on visiting but thought hey we are here anyways. Man is the area outside campus rough. We had to give our ID to pass by security. The campus is gorgeous and it def feels like it’s for the 0.1%. Only campus store that had jewelry on sale or a tailor to customize your clothings. Unless he gets some type of major merit aid the 95k/year price tags is way outside our budget.

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DS HATED College of Charleston. Couldn’t wait to get outta there. Was unimpressed with the class he sat in on, and the woman from the Honors College, who we had an appointment with, kept us waiting quite a while. She seemed as if she was inconvenienced by our meeting, but when she happened to ask DS what his standardized test scores were and also discerned that he was a NMF (well SF at the time, IIRC) she changed her tune and perked right up, very engaged. DS was quite annoyed by that. He couldn’t wait to leave.

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D25 checked out Penn State, Pitt, Univ of Scranton, Syracuse, Fordham (Lincoln Center campus), College of Charleston, Ursinus & Villanova.

PSU (Penn State Univ) - Slightly UP - in state flagship; D25 checked it out with Dad summer going into Junior Year and overall loved the campus, facilities, tour etc. They showed them the oldest dorm as a worst case scenario type thing I guess that was pretty miserable but many other dorms being added and built.Other areas of campus they were saying were akin to Disney :wink: D25 loved the big game/school spirit aspect of PSU but worried about life after 10+ weeks of football; didn’t love the rural aspect outside of campus and lack of city offerings. We’ve heard of more than a few students transferring from PSU becuase it was just too big for them and D25 didn’t love that some portions of campus may require a bus or loooooooong walk to get to point A / point B. She applied and was accepted fall UP start but this school fell behind others after additional tours elsewhere. Will likely still attend an admitted student day this spring to make sure as this seems to be her 2nd choice currently.

PITT - WAY WAY UP; visited 2x once for B&G day summer heading into Senior year and both D25 and dad declared the best tour of all the schools visited. Pitt tours do everything right. Applied and admitted with merit Sept. returned for Admitted students day and Football game Oct. with the whole family and we all fell in love with Oakland and Pitt. Walkable and somewhat defined urban campus; cool restaurants and shops in Oakland. Mid sized to big student body with big time sports feel. Every kid we know attending loves Pitt. The Cathedral of learning felt unexpected and completely gorgeous (we joked that we felt like we stepped into Hogwarts). We have heard the one knock on Pitt is the cafeteria food so hoping D25 can find the good in PittEats and most move off after freshman year so more grocery shopping and dining options available at that point. Pitt offers free bus transit with student ID making the city accessible for students. Academic programs were impressive and D25 reached out to faculty on a minor she wanted to add and met with an incredible response, personalized advice and offer to tour her through those additonal buildings/facilities next time in town. Far and away her top choice and will likely commit. Farthest drive from home (4.5-5hrs) which mom hates but she loves it that much. H2P!

Univ of Scranton - Neutral - local choice; strong sciences and labs for Exercise Science and Nursing, PT/OT very impressive. Did a pre-PT preview day junior year. Campus is within a city similar to Pitt in some ways but on a much much smaller scale with small city options. We skipped the tours through the commons and other portions of campus as she’s seen most (mom and dad undergrad alums). Applied and accepted with generous merit but too close to home.

Syracuse - UP; visited in winter for a bball game sophomore year and D25 declared she would never ever attend this school (so cold, so windy, so snowy); returned for a campus tour in May of junior year and loved the campus - great tour; the layout of the campus bullseyes in upon itself so it was very intuitive to walk and have a sense of where buildings were in just one afternoon. Weather made all the difference for D25; gorgeous buildings and clean bright student and athletic facilities; programs impressive and reminded her of a slightly larger Univ of Scranton - especially the off campus town/city itself. She applied RD here but ultimately liked Pitt substantially more and being in state and with merit at Pitt, it will likely be 1/3 of the pricetag of Cuse.

Fordham (Lincoln Ctr) - DOWN/OFF the list - D25 had high hopes for Fordham and loves NYC and its proximity to Lincoln Center and the arts but was totally underwhelmed with the tour; facilities and guide herself just didn’t give us the best impression. The footprint of campus itself is just 3 or 4 buildings in a NYC neighborhood and all sports and traditonal college activities/clubs were out of the Rose Hill campus in the Bronx (45mins ish commute). Some classrooms are basement level with no windows and tunnels to get to which we did not like. D25’s intended major required to live at Lincoln Center campus rather than Rose Hill so this was quickly nixed from her list and did not apply.

Charleston - NEUTRAL/Slightly down - D25 toured summer before senior year with family and overall had a positive tour; the campus is likely the most storybook of all the campuses she considered but buildings and facilities sort of felt a touch rundown and shabby? Maybe southern charm, maybe lack of maintenance? The tour did not have access to dorms, but what we saw online seem incredible and would be a big selling point as far as freshman housing. The proximity to King St and the shopping/restaurants was incredible but we reminded D25 she’d be on a college kid budget, not a family vacationing so it may feel a bit different if attending. D25 has heard alot of love it or hate it type reviews with students transferring away as well. No football which was a bummer for my sports/game loving kid. Urban mid sized campus with great weather and proximaty to beaches was a huge selling point, but ultimately D25 decided that Charleston is a city she may have more fun in for grad school or later 21+ Applied/accepted with merit but more $$$ than Pitt/PSU and she liked both in state options better.

Ursinus - DOWN/OFF - never really on her list; super small private school outside of Philly that seems to be made up mostly of student athletes (I think 70%ish of the student population are SA). We accompanied a friend on their tour (recruited athlete) and makes sense for him but hard sell for a non-athlete or a kid like ours that wants big school spirit; urban etc. The campus itself was quaint but with updated athletic facilities and impressive science programs. We have heard they are great for pre-med. They offer substantial merit. Our tour guide was personable and from our hometown; followed up with a personal note which was a nice touch. Did not apply but was never really interested as it didn’t match my daughter’s profile.

Villanova - NEUTRAL/Slightly down; visited and walked through campus many times as family lives in town; gorgeous buildings and prestige; competitive academics and sports but a little sleepy for what my daughter is looking for and probably a bit of a reach academically for her profile. They seem to fill most of their class with ED admits and she wasn’t interested enough (nor were we $$$) to go that route; the admissions for EA and RD are much much harder so she isn’t holding her breath but I don’t think she’d want to attend even if admitted due to being far more excited about Pitt/PSU and what they have to offer. She has heard that underclassmen don’t have many social options on the weekends and have to hang out mostly in dorms. If admitted will do an admitted students tour this spring but overall not very interested.

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