Columbia RD v. UPenn ED

Colleges & Universities Columbia University
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<p>If I don’t get into UPenn ED, should I bother applying to Columbia RD?</p>

<p>State: Alabama
Gender: Female
Ethnicity: Asian
School: competitive preparatory
Class size: 71</p>

<p>Intended Major(s): political science, mathematics</p>

<p>GPA: 3.77 (A- is 3.667, A is 4.0)
SAT I: 1430/1600, 2070/2400 (Math 790, Verbal 640, Writing 640)
SAT II:
Math I: 770
Math II: 710
US History: 710
ACT: 30</p>

<p>AP Scores:
US History: 5
English Language: 3</p>

<p>Extracurricular/Activities:
Student Government (10: class secretary; 11-12: class treasurer)
Concert Band (percussion)
Math Tutoring for 6th grade
Community Service at the American Cancer Society
Mu Alpha Theta (Treasurer; head of tutoring)
ECHO Literary Magazine Staff
Math Team
Writers’ Club
Piano
Tri-M Music Honor Society (Secretary)
National Honor Society (Treasurer)</p>

<p>Summers:
2003: Brown University Pre-College Program: How a Nation’s Economy Works: An Introduction to Macroeconomics
2004: University of Pennsylvania: Introduction to Political Science
2005: University of Alabama in Huntsville: Western Civilization, Macroeconomics</p>

<p>Academic Honors: National Honor Society
Mu Alpha Theta (Math Honor Society)
Tri-M (Music Honor Society)
University of Alabama in Huntsville Women’s History Essay Contest-1st place
Most Outstanding Honors Algebra II Student
AMC 10 (American Mathematics Competition) school 1st place winner
National French Examination 9th place in state
District Honor Band (2004, 2005)</p>

<p>Honors/AP Classes:
Honors Geometry
Honors Algebra II
Honors Chemistry
Honors Pre-Calculus
Honors Physics
AP English Language
AP US History
AP Government
AP European History
AP English Literature
AP Calculus BC</p>

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<p>You have a wide diversity of achievements. If you want a chance at Columbia, go for it!</p>

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<p>hey, i definitely think you should still apply. different schools look for different things and even though columbia and penn are on similar levels in terms of acceptance rate (i think penn is slightly easier?) you might be surprised at the outcomes. also, if you dont get into penn ed, you’d still have time to spruce up your columbia essays. just dont let this whole process get you down!</p>

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<p>ha, penn is easier? try explaining the 21% increase in ed apps as easier… and 42% to engineering alone to boot</p>

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<p>harsh. but true… whether you get in penn ed or not should not be an indication to your columbia acceptance rate. the two schools may be looking for every different things.</p>

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<p>sorry, i didnt apply to penn, but i thought their acceptance rate was like 25% and columbia’s was about 10. however i know columbia’s ED acceptance rate is very high in comparison, i dont know about penn’s.</p>

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<p>You guys are just talking about different things. Columbia College’s overall (RD and ED combined) acceptance rate is about 10% versus 25% ED, while Fu SEAS’s overall rate is about 25% versus a bit less than 50% ED. It’s important to remember that the early applicant pool is on the average more impressive anywhere, too.</p>

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<p>Does that mean that Columbia admits only about six percent of its RD applicants? Whoa.</p>

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<p>The exact numbers are available on the Columbia website under “prospective students” and then “admissions”, but yes, something like that. Columbia has very high early acceptance rates not because it is easy to get in necessarily, but because Columbia fills much more of the incoming class under the early decision program than other schools do.</p>

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<p>both penn and columbia college fills half of their incoming class with early admis. SEAS fills about 1/3</p>

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<p>I was going by memory, which failed me to some degree. After actually looking at the statistics again (<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/stats.php[/url]”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/stats.php&lt;/a&gt;) the acceptance percentages do drop roughly as I said, but SEAS admits 23% of its total class early and Columbia College admits 26% (based on last year’s statistics). I don’t feel like looking up Penn, but I’m sure it’s on their website.</p>

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<p>I know I read that one somewhere but according to the stats : early decision admits for CC:446, total enrollment :486 Men 541 Women if you give the enrolled students from early a 5 people margin (those rare ones that drop out of ED), then about 40% of the class is filled by ED</p>

<p>same thing can be seen for SEAS to be about 1/3 (maby a bit more)… I think the 26/23% ratio is the total admited classe not the enrollled.</p>

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<p>I follow you. I think it’s a matter of interpretation. My viewpoint is that the total admitted statistic is more useful in this case, because the person is concerned with whether they will be offered admission, not whether they will be part of the matriculating class (if you get what I mean). However, your interpretation is more valid with regards to the percentage of the class filled by ED (taken literally). </p>

<p>I think I accidently made this thread more complicated than it needed to be. Just apply to Columbia, Christine123. It can’t hurt.</p>

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<p>lol agreed with above</p>

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<p>However, I hear that Columbia is more thirsty for people from the South and out-of-state in general. And the SAT range is slightly lower, despite the more competitive acceptance rate.</p>