Columbia Student Behavior --- Disgraceful

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<p>I’m sorry FS, I don’t know what a kith is. ;)</p>

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<p>LakeWash:

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<p>For heavens sake, have you ever been to a controversial meeting at your town hall? Guess what? Unfortunately, it is not just kids who don’t know how to behave in a civil manner.</p>

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DO you mean to say, liberals of any age? </p>

<p>I concede the point.</p>

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<p>kith  /kɪθ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kith] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation </p>

<p>–noun 1. acquaintances, friends, neighbors, or the like; persons living in the same general locality and forming a more or less cohesive group.<br>
2. kindred.<br>
3. a group of people living in the same area and forming a culture with a common language, customs, economy, etc., usually endogamous.</p>

<p>[hope that helps you out of your intellectual jam]</p>

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<p>Yes I have, weenie. Actually I’ve attended several such municipal forums over the years. I even moderated one or two. You are right. Often the behavior therein is dispicable.</p>

<p>In our nation, listening to someone whose only joy in life is listening to himself is the discomfort we endure at times for the sake of a free society. But nitwits like the agitated Columbia instigators ruin it for the rest of us.</p>

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<p>Liberals, regarding the issue of diversity of thought:</p>

<p><a href=“http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM[/url]”>http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fv9xa-VxchM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>It is no secret that academia in general is left-leaning. That is not my characterization of our institutions of higher education, but one that can be verified by faculty polls taken from time to time. My conservative D, who is still in high school, has been subject to all sorts of harassment from teachers who feel it necessary to squelch any conservative voice, no matter how small. Sometimes it is subtle - she will wait patiently to take part in a discussion yet will never be called upon. Other times it is more overt, like a poor grade on a paper that does not regurgitate the teacher’s point of view.</p>

<p>Some of the best classes she has had were run by teachers who had a totally opposite point-of-view than my D, but allowed discussion and debate to take place in a civilized manner. She could still get As on papers in these classes, as long as they were well-written. Sometimes, the teacher and my D were even able to get each other to concede the other’s point. Most important, the classes were exciting and led my D to do outside research so that she had all the facts and could speak intelligently on whatever topic they were discussing. This is what I hope for in her college experience. And this is why I find the events at Columbia so distressing. And, as I said on the Columbia forum, I think the administration is complicit in this when they do nothing to punish the students involved. That is, in effect, condoning the behavior and making the campus an intolerable place for conservatives.</p>

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<p>Vango, I completely agree with your post. My s had a government teacher in hs who was very liberal, my s was moderate to conservative. The best thing I have ever seen written on a paper was when he wrote, “I completely disagree with everything you have written, but you have expressed your points well and it is an interesting paper.” He got an A.</p>

<p>That is what I call open minded. That is what I would hope professors would be like. It is one thing to disagree, it is another to grade based on your biases. Shame on academia for allowing this to occur.</p>

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<p>I can’t find the Columbia forum on CC. Am I blind?</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=245829[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=245829&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>There you go, primetimemom.</p>

<p>That was the thread on this topic, here’s the complete forum.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Thank you!!!</p>

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<p>Here is the editorial from today’s Spec, the student newspaper. I would guess this represents the opinions of more Columbia students (and liberal students) than the actions on the stage:

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<p>I wonder how Mr. Stewart, an educated, well spoken, black man, feels about being “used” by the Minutemen in a “patronizingly exploitative” manner to “race bait” I love how when people of color disagree or stand up to traditional “liberal” stances, they are either being used or are “sell outs” Nice that someone would point out to him that the founding fathers of America were “not your fathers.” How open minded and thought provoking of them. In the interview with Stewart he says that he was also called the “n” word. I would say that that is more exploitative and “race baiting”. You know, this whole story is disgusting…</p>

<p>I wonder if when they invite radical islamists, who condemn Americans as “devils,” to speak, the crowd just sits and nods and accepts the castigation. That just goes hand in hand with the indoctrination of our youth - that America and American values are not only outdated, but that they just plain suck. How terribly sad.</p>

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<p>ag54 – The point of the editorial is exactly OPPOSITE the point you’re making. It was written by students representing the entire staff of the newspaper, condemning the few involved in this incident as disgraceful. What it shows is that Columbia students are still “indoctrinated” with the American value of free speech.</p>

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<p>I will admit that while I have heard of the Minutemen and had a rough idea of what their agenda is, I have not heard them speak on tv or otherwise. I just went to their website, though, and they seem to go out of their way to not be racist. Their stated agenda seems to be to watch the border but not make contact with people trying to enter the country illegally and only report any people attempting to enter the country illegally to the proper border authorities. Whether one agrees with what they are doing or not, I am not sure how this makes them racist. I don’t mean to be disingenuous here - I do realize that most of the people crossing the border are Mexican, but they are not singling out anyone based on race. It would seem they are singling out people who are trying to cross the border illegally. And since there are laws in this country to that effect, it would seem they are within their rights to do what they are doing.</p>

<p>Maybe the student protesters at Columbia should funnel their energy and efforts into changing the laws of this country if they feel that having secure borders is an impediment to what they believe is a fair and just society.</p>

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<p>I couldn’t agree more. As a conservative high school student, I have visited many college campuses. Students at Columbia told me that people of every political orientation are there, and that all thoughts are welcomed…
Apparently not.
I’m not applying to Columbia. (OR Georgetown, after the Alberto Gonzales incident last year)</p>

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<p>FS:

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<p>That’s actually pretty funny. If you saw the good old boys in my town, you certainly wouldn’t confuse them with liberals!</p>

<p>PS Sorry, you might find this hard to believe, but I wasn’t actually interested in a vocab lesson. (Did you not get that?) You needn’t have bothered.</p>

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<p>rightwing:

At the risk of sounding like a mother, :wink: don’t cut off your nose to spite your face.</p>

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<p>The minutemen are a great orginization. They do exactly what Vango described and they are accused of racism because liberals hate what they do and use “racism” as a word or label to attack these people who are looking out for our safety. I am sure someone is going to bring up that they carry guns with them, but just to clarify they do it completely legally and with a permit. And ofcourse the guns serve the obvious purpose of self-defense against any of the illegals who would love to kill the minutemen</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.nysun.com/article/41020[/url]”>http://www.nysun.com/article/41020&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“The pandemonium that ensued as the evening’s keynote speaker took the stage was merely the climax of protest that brewed all week. A number of campus groups, including the Chicano caucus, the African-American student organization, and the International Socialist organization, began planning their protests early this week when they heard that the Minutemen would be arriving on campus.”</p>

<p>““These are racist individuals heading a project that terrorizes immigrants on the U.S.-Mexican border,” Ryan ***umori, a Columbia junior who took part in the protest, told The New York Sun. “They have no right to be able to speak here.””</p>

<p>Nice. A Columbia education on display.</p>

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<p>The police only seem to be in evidence after the speakers have been removed from the hall and even then the police aren’t taking any action. See for yourself.
<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnn7wTgoE8[/url]”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfnn7wTgoE8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;