<p>I appreciate your sophisticated knowledge b@r!um</p>
<p>my parents can afford four years CC and state college, but I see that selective state colleges have a very limited successful transfer student and I don’t really have a choice for college. It’s a matter because since I need a CC nearby the college I want to go to.</p>
<p>Why fixate on American universities? To American eyes, Japanese universities seem ridiculously cheap (even top privates like Keio and Waseda charge tuition that is less than the in-state rate at many public American flagships). Plus, all the top Japanese universities offer English-based programs now.</p>
<p>A lot depends on your career plans after college really. What you want to do, where, etc. </p>
<p>As for the transfer rate, that depends on the state. Also, why does the CC have to be near the college you want to go to? Finally, financial aid for internationals is really difficult to get (some of the richest elite privates offer them–in fact, they’re the only ones offering them, but getting in is no sure thing). Merit aid is easier (especially at 2nd/3rd-tier schools), but still no sure thing.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link b@r!um! </p>
<p>PurpleTitan: most community colleges’ TAG’s are with the closest public university, so that one must choose a CC based on its transfer rate (50% is considered extremely good and only a handful of California CC score much higher than that) and with which university they’re “linked” or have an agreement with.
Therefore the CC option, for an international, is more limiting than boarding school, and not necessarily cheaper, but is more direct.
Your current school could accept to keep you as a junior/senior* if you pay the F1 costs (6-12k/year) and if you live in an apt. Investigate the possibility with the principal.</p>
<p>*exchange students are randomly assigned a class, often in relation to their English proficiency.</p>
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<p>This is incorrect. I have kids in boarding school & I interview applicants. </p>
<p>Your chances of getting FA as an int’l student at an american boarding school are very low to zero. Only the elite schools offer FA to int’ls, but they are as difficult to be admitted into as Ivy League colleges, and/or their budget for int’l FA is very, very limited. The int’ls who succeed in getting FA have an exceptional quality (e.g., recruited elite athlete; or war orphan from Sudan who is an award winning film maker-- I’m not making this up).</p>
<p>The less selective boarding schools have more forgiving admit rates, but they will not offer FA to int’ls.</p>
<p>I think it’s a travesty that our gov’t treats illegal immigrants more leniently and generously than LEGAL exchange students like u. </p>
<p>Have u considered over-staying your visa and simply continuing on at your present public school or at another public school? In some states, illegal immigrants who graduate from a high school in that state are eligible for in-state college tuition. </p>
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<p>I read recently that Florida & Virginia are joining the bandwagon. </p>
<p>actually they have to be unwillingly undocumented, ie., brought by parents, not on their own volition, and can’t be over the age of 16 (for the Dream act). Overall, even outside the dream act, the situation is that you can’t have thousands and thousands of kids who have lived their entire lives or most of it in the US, graduated high school, are reasonably smart and hardworking, but can’t get a college education which is necessary to be a productive member of society <em>when they academically could</em>. So the States found the most expedient solution toward what makes the most sense economically.
However, it’s indeed puzzling all the obstacles put in the path of legal immigrants, especially their children. It was decided in the 90’s (for instance, the decision to restrict public high schools from accepting F1 students unless they stay only 1 year and pay themselves was taken during the Clinton Administration, and this even if the school wants to keep the kid because they’re exceptional in some way.)
I knew of a kid who could have enrolled in a school if she’d been undocumented but because she had a visa she couldn’t. She didn’t want to break the law so she couldn’t attend the school of her choice and her family found another solution but it seemed completely nonsensical. Making it equal for undocumented immigrants and non immigrants seems only fair, and making it easier for J1/F1 students to attend school if they meet all the academic prereqs seems like a no-brainer (just like restricting the H1Bs to people who actually graduated from a US college, live here, and are known by the US company, rather than allowing these visas to offshore companies that “farm” foreign workers.)</p>
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<p>No, what is most expedient and economic for legally-residing taxpayers in the U.S. is that the illegal immigrant students go back to their country of citizenship for college, like my expat kids have to do.</p>
<p>Just for future reference GMTplus7, what country is it that won’t allow locally educated foreign nationals to attend it’s universities?</p>
<p>The kids who were brought by their parents would thus be left in limbo since they wouldn’t be educated in their parents’ country (not to mention that deporting them back would 1° raise incredible outcries and would shame the US to the rest of the world, thus lowering our moral ground when making other unpopular, necessary decisions, and 2° would be supported by taxpayer money, and personally I’d rather not invest $23K in sending each back, that money’s needed elsewhere) and would be lost to the American economy where they have the potential to contribute. For all intents and purpose, these kids are more American than they are whatever nationality their parents have…
From a purely humane point of view, I can’t imagine sending an 18-year old to another country where they’ve hardly been, the language of which they may not speak or not fluently, to live, alone, without help, work, housing, or anything. Honestly I shudder at the thought the US could consider doing that, it sounds barbaric.
Your expat kids are likely entitled to studying in the country where they reside. They choose not to. The situation’s different.</p>
<p>OP’s legally attending a school. His/her choices are:
- F1 at a private day school, housing with a host family
- F1 at a private day school, personal apartment (perhaps with roommates?)
- F1 at local public school, housing with a host family
-F1 at a local public school, personal apartment - F1 at boarding school
- F1 at community college</p>
<p>The local public school may well reclassify OP as a senior depending on what credits s/he brings from his/her previous schools and how well s/he did.
After 1 year in public school, OP must either graduate or go to a private school on that F1 since F1’s can only spend one year in the public school system.</p>
<p>“PurpleTitan: most community colleges’ TAG’s are with the closest public university”</p>
<p>I reckon that this is state-dependent?</p>
<p>The CC’s that the U of I has their Pathways program with aren’t terribly close by:
<a href=“http://pathways.engineering.illinois.edu/”>http://pathways.engineering.illinois.edu/</a></p>
<p>^That’s one specific major - because many CC’s do not have the prereqs for engineering, they may be more spread out. There are some university-specific exceptions, too (ie., Cornell). However, the most important thing to check is both what community colleges in the state have a “guaranteed pathway” with the university you’re aiming for and what the university itself states (as the info may be more complete by checking both sources). In addition, it’s important to check how onerous the requirements are.</p>
<p>One specific school, but point.</p>
<p>Indeed, it’s best to figure out what 4-year schools you’d be interested in and figure out what CC’s can get you there.</p>
<p>my mom believes it’s too risky to take another two years without certain college admission. She wants me to get a GED which is equal to high school diploma, go to a decent college and then I can transfer if I wish. However, it really means I have to get a high GPA even though I don’t think my ability is adequate for college.</p>
<p>I’m thinking of CC now, but I really want to attend to Uni Of Michigan. Is there any “guaranteed pathway” CC though the transfer rate to UM is as low as 1%.</p>
<p>I’m so lost in my future decision now.</p>
<p>Are you still in the US, or have you returned home for the summer already? If you are still here, and your school year hasn’t ended, go see your guidance counselor and find out about the CC to 4-year college route. If you are home, contact the closest office of EducationUSA, and get some help with this process. <a href=“https://www.educationusa.info/centers.php”>https://www.educationusa.info/centers.php</a></p>
<p>To find out if U Michigan has any articulation agreements (guaranteed transfer) with CCs, google: articulation agreement university of michigan</p>
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UM has a transfer admission rate of 37%, which sounds doable. <a href=“http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/factsfigures/ugtransfers_umaa_fall13.pdf”>http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/factsfigures/ugtransfers_umaa_fall13.pdf</a></p>
<p>Their admission rate for community college transfer applicants is in the same range - 40% in 2012. <a href=“http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/community-college-students”>http://www.admissions.umich.edu/drupal/community-college-students</a></p>
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<p>My kids are LEGAL TEMPORARY residents in other country. They can enroll in local schools WHILE I HAVE A VALID WORK VISA which I applied for. While we are residing in the country LEGALLY, we pay local income taxes as well as U.S. income taxes. </p>
<p>When my work visa expires in a couple of years, we all get booted out of the country as residents. Then we will be only tourists, and my kids will not be permitted to enroll in public school nor int’l school there unless they apply for a student visa.</p>
<p>This is how it works in the countries we have lived in in Europe & Asia.</p>
<p>The OP is in the U.S. LEGALLY on a visa. When OP’s visa expires, OP will get the heave-ho.</p>
<p>It’s OUTRAGEOUS that our country treats illegal immigrants more generously & leniently than people who play by the rules…</p>
<p>I heard about GED. Do I need GED in case of applying for community college or college for int’l student?</p>