Computer Science - RHIT Vs UMN Vs Wisconsin Vs Purdue

Rose:
Out of pocket: 40K
STEM focused but high school size

UMN - Twin Cities
Out of pocket: 30K
Urban and nice campus, but cold weather

Wisconsin
Out of picket: 50K
Beautiful campus, but pricey

Purdue
Out of pocket: 44K
better ranking, but pricey

Can someone give some suggestions choosing a college for my S1. The research opportunities, internships and job placements seem to be similar at all the above colleges. We live in Chicago area, UMN weather might not be a huge concern. We are inclined towards UMN purely because of price. Do we have to consider any other factors

Rose is very different in environment from the other three. If it appeals to your son, that would be a possible differentiator. Otherwise, the remaining three are very similar. Between them, I’d agree to go with the cheapest in UMN.

I have gotten accepted into UWisc (College of Letters & Science), Purdue (CS), UMass (CS), and UMD College Park (CS), and am deciding between Purdue and UMD at the moment. I removed UWisc and UMass from the list mainly because they were too cold after visit. But it won’t be much an issue for you since you are from Chicago.

Here is a little more detailed (personal) outline for why I would recommend for and against UWisc and Purdue:

UWisc Pros:
-Very beautiful campus!
-Ranked about #40 for national college.
-UWisc’s graduate ranking is ranked very high (Recommended if your child is planning to attend graduate school afterwards)
-City (not get bored)
-Has Wisconsin’s largest library
-Has award-winning dining halls (so does Purdue)
-VERY HIGH funding (known as among top 10 US schools that receive the most funding; however, so is Purdue)

UWisc Cons:
-Very cold and windy
-Its undergraduate ranking for CS program is not that high.
-Too large
-One of the biggest party school (it may be among pros depending on your personality, but I personally do not like party schools because it gets me distracted from studying)
-Very expensive (After visiting, I learned that you will need huge sums of living expenses while studying in UWisc., on top of net price mentioned on the website)
-Small dorms (but Purdue has small dorms too)
-NOT guaranteed CS major (no one can be directly admitted to UWisc.'s CS. Everyone who applied for CS major has to take at least one year of pre-CS course and declare as CS major in order to be CS major.)

Purdue Pros:
-Its undergraduate CS program is better known than UWisc
-Has award-winning dining halls
-More quiet (Recommended if your child prefers a quiet, undisturbed life)
-Provides free (certain) transportation system for Purdue students.
-Guaranteed CS major (if you applied for CS and if you got into CS, then you are now declared are CS major from freshman)
-Great computer science building inside.
-VERY HIGH funding (about $3 bil/yr; however, a bit less than UWisc.)
-Recently finished building a new CS building after receiving substantial amount of funding.
-Has VERY many big-named corporation partners (Google, IBM, Microsoft, etc.)
-First CS Department made (around 1950) in the United States.
-Very high CS salary (last year, among all Purdue graduates, Purdue CS graduates had the highest average salary of about $80k. Outlier was about $130k.)

Purdue Cons:
-VERY notorious for being tough to survive in CS (average grade in Purdue CS is C, yet it is still considered not bad due to its toughness.).
-Low graduation rate (Overall, 6 yr is about 70% and 4 yr is about 45%).
-There are MANY weed-out classes in the first two years of CS in Purdue.
-It is in rural area, so there aren’t many stuff to do outside of Purdue. (People tend to say Purdue is in the middle of a vast corn field, which it really is, but don’t think the campus itself is literally surrounded by corn fields. There are some shops, restaurants, banks, etc. outside of campus, letting students go some places on weekends. After about 10~20 miles outside of Purdue campus, corn fields begin.)

I cannot speak for UMN and Rose Hulman because I neither applied for nor visited those two colleges. But I do know that Rose Hulman values its undergraduate students (because that’s all there are; no doctorate degrees offered in RH) and is very well known for its engineering.

Overall, if I were you, I would go with Purdue. Although Purdue may be very tough, your child may get used to it soon and outperform other students.

If you would like some sources, then please let me know and I will show you. I didn’t include sources because there were too many to write. Please note that some of the information are subjective (ex. UWisc’s campus is very beautiful, very cold).

A lot of the plus’s for Purdue sound big, but 80K for a good CS school is actually low in some cases. RPI, for example, has an average starting salary of CS at 90K. To me, the cons seem a lot worse.

That graduation rate for CS is very scary to me as well, and the number of weed out classes point to a really terrible academic experience. Tough is not always better - it could just as much be bad instruction. The CS schools I know may have tough work, but the average grade in classes isn’t ever a C - usually closer to a B. Funding and buildings CS are really just window dressing for departments unless you’re looking for every little minute difference in research, which most students won’t even notice. I think a lot of students would have a very bad time there. For @HardOREasy, it sounds like a better fit, but a very specific fit.

Yes, as PengsPhils noted, I slightly exaggerated about the CS average grade part (it’s been long since I last checked. Sorry). For the source, check this website:
http://www. gradeinflation. com/
and you will see that average grade in Purdue is 2.9-3.1, which is still quite low compared to many other colleges.

For Purdue’s graduation rate source:
https:// www.usnews. com/best-colleges/ rankings/highest-grad-rate?_page=52
http:// www.purdue. edu/enrollmentmanagement/ researchanddata/gradretentionrates.html

UWM graduation rate source:
https:// www.usnews. com/best-colleges/ rankings/highest-grad-rate?_page=34

I agree with post #1. I’d narrow that list down to your cheapest Big State U and your Small Campus Environment choices and revisit just those two and see where your son feels comfortable and excited to go.

Thank you all for feedback. Rose does not appeal to him, he is more inclined towards to UMN at this moment. @HardOrEsay, We like Purdue, but is it worth paying 54K(14*4) more when compared to UMN. I heard the college experience and opportunities are about the same in both these universities.

Truly not much difference in academic quality between UMN and Purdue - go with best price. Also location (if you like urban) is much more appealing at UMN. However, be aware that the CS program is not direct admit. You will need to take a certain number of classes prior to applying for the major and attain a 3.2 GPA or recommendation if lower gpa. It is an attainable goal - CS classes are tough but I don’t think as much weed out as Purdue.

I’d go with UMN.
And Purdue truly has a weed out culture that makes it unnecessarily stressful. It’s a good value if you’re in-state, but I wouldn’t pay OOS fees for it.

the light rail and bus system in Minneapolis St Paul makes getting around for downtown internships easy.