Computer systems down. What the heck?

The fact that several systems had problems today shouldn’t come as a big surprise, what should surprise us is any given day that more systems don’t go down, that we don’t see more problems on any given day. There are milions of computer systems out there running billions and billions of lines of code, and they depend these days on a complex series of networks interconnected via the public net that in turn is a staggering number of systems, routers, fiber optic cables and so forth.

I heard with United that it was network malfunctions, probably router failures. These are supposed to be redundant, but things can happen and you end up where the network running the systems goes into a packet storm or other problems.

As far as the NYSE goes, it may not be as easy as failing over. Failovers to DR sites usually happen when you have loss of a data center or for example, if you have a natural disaster, and few trading systems have hot failover capability like that, it is just too costly to maintain that with a full blown trading environment. More importantly, if this is what I suspect, if this was a new software release on their trading systems that went south, failing over wouldn’t have helped, if key data got screwed up, or they need to do data conversion to roll back to the prior software, it can be time consuming as hell…and if they have trashed databases involved, it can be a mess.

The real answer is these systems are very complex, involving a lot of hardware and software, and given trading volumes today things like this can happen. No matter how well you test these systems, you can get a cascade failure that escalates out of control, and something like this is the result.

The entire computer system in the US State Department that issues to visas to foreigners went down for 3 weeks last month. Thousands of people had to cancel travel plans to the US.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/17/us-usa-passports-delay-idUSKBN0OX2FY20150617

http://travel.state.gov/content/travel/english/news/technological-systems-issue.html

It’s summer, Chinese hackers have nothing to do, maybe bored.

I heard someone on the news attributing this to Anonymous, the hacker group.

I know a tech type that always laughs about the concept that they are some organized group that does coordinated attacks. He says they are teenage hackers, working from their bedrooms, randomly.

My cats just knocked the router off the kitchen counter!!! Aarrgggh. Our Wi-Fi was down for 30 seconds, and I was going bonkers. :smiley:

Did you think Chinese, BB, or teen boys?

@lookingforward skynet

“Did you think Chinese, BB, or teen boys?”

Maybe all three? Perhaps BB is a Chinese teen boy? :smiley:

Nah, I think it just might be BB’s cat! Which might be young, male…and Siamese. Makes perfect sense.

Or Skynet. The new Terminator movie did just come out.

Ya know, long distance comms lines used to go down because the gophers (or something) chewed through the fiber optic cables.

You’re all oblivious. This computer problem is being caused by Kim Jong-un via his MacBook Air.

What? He’s got a MacBook Air? I don’t even have one yet. Plus, I don’t have a nuclear bomb, either. No fair!

Go to Costco, busdriver, you can get a 12-pack of nukes for a bargain.

It is the French tweaking you for excessive snooping on their president.

Maybe Greece was trying to get its hand on some quick cash. Or someone with the Chinese stock market felt that misery misery loves company.

What did everyone expect when San Diego Comic Con is happening??

I love the way one of the big “news” networks keeps reminding people that the official word is that it is all coincidental, and then interviewing people who are explaining how it can be a sign of cyber attacks…

I just had a vision of some little person, humming, and running a vacuum in some little office someplace, and knocking an electric plug out of an outlet with the vacuum cleaner.