<p>Bill… :)</p>
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No. We simply KNOW we’re better than the likes of you. :)</p>
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Yes, you can. Come on over, we’d love to have you! </p>
<p><— Life Member. :D</p>
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Why? Does it surprise you?</p>
<p>He’s happy the Bay of Pigs failed (Communism won)
He wants China to defeat us (Communism wins)
He’s probably happy that the UN didn’t win outright in Korea (Communism wins)
He’s probably orgasmically ecstatic we lost in Vietnam (Communism wins)</p>
<p>See a pattern? :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>LOL! How true!</p>
<p>Of course, you could just post this:</p>
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<p>:D</p>
<p>Either way, you’re right Bill. Trying to argue with this idiot is fun but a waste of time. He drags you down to his level and beats you with experience at idiocy.</p>
<p>You’re about to become an adult, Clueless. Good luck. You are going to need TONS of it.</p>
<p>This may seem somewhat out of order, but a quick look at the role of the President and the role of the military is in order. The President makes US foreign policy, the military does not. Confused 23, aptly named, seems to indicate that the military decided to invade Iraq and that the military is responsible for the political consequences of that decision. That is simply not the case. From what I have read, the professional military leaders (non-civilian) may have disagreed with some of the President’s and Secretary of Defense’s decisions, but they performed their duty to the President and to all US citizens by doing what they were instructed. The actions of some US servicemen have been regretable and a poor reflection on the United States. I firmly believe those servicemen are the exception and not the rule. They have been dealt with pursuant to our system of laws and we must move on.</p>
<p>I also consider myself to be somewhat liberal and from the John Kennedy generation. Confused’s mention of President Kennedy brings to mind a quote made famous by President Kennedy, “Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” I think the members of the US military can answer that question with a smile on their face. Confused, what have you done for our country? I am sure that it is more than taking cheap shots at the folks that are contibuting to our country and putting themselves in harms way, regardless of whether you or they agree with the decision to go to war. In another thread you took a cheap shot a folks at the service academies as not really being in harms way. You are wrong. I think there have been more than 35 “final taps” at West Point since the Iraq war began. The vast majority of the class of 2006 will be in Iraq by September. Thay are literally putting their lives on the line.</p>
<p>Confused, I knew about as much about Vietnam in the early 1970s as you seem to know about Iraq today. The last thirty years or so have made me realize how little I knew about the Vietnam War and the military that fought in that war and the distinction between the President’s role and the role of the military. It was a lot easier for me to sit in college and criticize the military than walk through the rice paddies of the Mekong Delta getting shot at. While I never jeered folks in the military during Vietnam, I regret that I nver walked up to a serviceman and thanked him for his service. Today I wish I had…</p>
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<p>You just did. I’m sure there are VN vets here. :)</p>
<p>Confused, where will you be attending college?</p>
<p>You all should really try to understand this thread while Confused 23’s posts are on ignore! It’s a hoot. You get the gist of it through the various quotes by others of what C23 says. Anyway, I think you can all see why it’s so pointless to argue. Most of us come from a framework that says “sure, the US acts in it’s own interest but it is because we really believe that the world is a better place with a country like ours dominating. Despite the many bad apples, we believe that our country generally cares about people – as evidenced by tsunami relief, etc.” Confused believes, as do far too many IMO, “that Americans are basically evil bigots who want to bully the world for their own selfish interests and only care about themselves. They (meaning Americans) are simply ignorant and dangerous.” And, so it is pointless to argue. These (meaning now people who think like C23) are people that simply have to be stopped should they decide to step over the line of rhetoric and into “action.” Confused may be such a person that could be persuaded by extremists – I don’t really know. Until he does, I choose to “ignore” him. Should he decide to take violent action – I would favor his demise by any means. But I certainly have no interest in debating him or providing him a forum to share his views. I hope and pray that he, like many of his kind, is too cowardly to act on his “principles.”</p>
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<p>Ain’t it though?</p>
<p>LOL! :D</p>
<p>I have to admit that I went back, set the ignore, and re-read last night’s exchange. [My thumb still hurts.] It is pretty funny.</p>
<p>Okay, now I MUST work . . . later.</p>
<p>I had to take confused off my ignore list this morning after I saw all of the replies. Hate to admit it but curiosity got the better of me. I am bothered by all of the name calling but </p>
<p>My son is willing to give his life in defense of our freedoms which includes freedom of speech. He is willing to die for confuseds right to say everything he has said here and more, but confused will NEVER appreciate that. That makes me angry. Confused may think fighting and dying for the USA in Iraq, and other places, is a worthless cause but I really dont care what he thinks. I may not always agree with the policies of the US government, but I will always support the attempt to spread freedom to others. I wish everyone could have the rights we have in America. </p>
<p>Confused must have such low self esteem that the only way he can build himself up is to get on the computer and stir the *****. Makes you wonder what kind of parents raise a kid like this.</p>
<p>confused,
You are ****ing into the wind on this forum
just go somewhere else and do it. By the way, I have a pair of shoes older than you (they make more sense too).</p>
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<p>LOL!</p>
<p>ZING!</p>
<p>Mom drops the big one!</p>
<p>ROFLMAO! :D</p>
<p>Haha…I like it.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, C23 doesn’t seem to grasp the idea that with age comes wisdom. I highly doubt that he will show any more respect the to the parents on this forum.</p>
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<p>I’ve mentioned this before (when Confused first reared his ugly head) but the whole thread was deleted. That phrase from Kennedy’s Inaugural Address is often quoted, but rarely does anyone add the following line:</p>
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<p>And let’s not forget that that speech also contained this line:</p>
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<p>Just thought I’d pass that along…</p>
<p>Excellent bz!
JFK was right.</p>
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<p>You realize he’d be branded a neo-con warmonger these days, right?</p>
<p>After all, “Who are we to determine if they should have freedom?” and “Some people can’t handle freedom.” (actual Lib quotes), remember? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Oswald shot the wrong guy. He should have gotten LBJ, instead.</p>
<p>ignoring C23</p>
<p>Ditto. Same goes for the rest of the Berkeley Bunch. I’m through having battles of wits with unarmed people. It gets boring real quick.</p>
<p>WAMOM68 wonders about the parent(s) responsible for raising confused23.<br>
It is easy to say “my kid would NEVER …”. </p>
<p>I find it rather sad that confused is behaving the way he is. I find is sad that confused does not have the people skills or desire to hang out with classmates or teammates. I find it sad that his parents don’t seem to care how many hours he spends on the computer. It is odd that his parent’s don’t see the anger bottled up in their son. Is it possible confused could be pushed over the edge and hurt someone, or worse, have others die (Columbine comes to mind) because the “Beast” in him was never tamed? </p>
<p>The bottom line is, we may never know (or care) what motivates confused to visit this forum. I hope that one day he finds a better purpose in life.</p>
<p>First of all the idea of groupthink is most largely exhibited in these forum One person says something and 12 other people repeat it without thinking. You constantly gang up on the China comment, but then turn a blind eye to the other disrespectful and racist things that Zaphod the doughboy said before and most importantly first. I knew he’d be riled up by that comment so I said it. I should have said something a bit more personal though. Like how the luckiest woman in America is the one that divorced Luis.</p>
<p>p>s> columbine kids were racist white extremists as were the people in Waco and Ruby Ridge. WHen it comes to being murdering, baby-killers the right takes the cake.</p>
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<p>See now you’re just trying to elicit a response. Nope, not even going to reply to that ridiculous remark.</p>
<p>These guys try EVERYTHING to start an argument.</p>
<p>The Marines did literally kill children execution-style in Haditha so its a very accurate comment.</p>