Cooper Union for Graphic Design

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>18,500 views and some
back to the Met
now it’s big selling slogan is “get closer”
series of full length posters of close-up magnified partial famous pieces are lining the front plaza.
you could see surprisingly lively brush strokes on the hair bow of the Klimt girl this way.
but
you can not get closer to see Alexander McQueen
<a href=“http://blog.metmuseum.org/alexandermcqueen/[/url]”>http://blog.metmuseum.org/alexandermcqueen/&lt;/a&gt;
So very popular, the Met extended showing schedule plus opening Mondays with 50bucks special admission if you hate crowd but have to have to see the show.
I wasn’t even gonna try but the line was not all that bad compare to last time I was there. so why not?
after 40 min or so half spent in dark ancient Iranian arts area roped in just for the queues where I could not read my book and was bored, half spent in front of Joan of Arc, Salome painting and Rodin galore where lights are good but rather want to look at them, we were there!</p>

<p>it was the fun house!! Disneyworld haunted mansion! Jekill & Hyde theme restaurant! Hogwarts!
only few dress mannequins are self-rotating and there is no room to go around to see the whole outfit. and dark! eery! strobe-flashy!! It is so very hard to judge craftsmanship or what is that made out of really, is it clam shells? feather? cow hide? antlers?
the droning music, Kate Moss simmering overhead… </p>

<p>the Met made beautiful catalogue, now on sale at artsy bookstore, even B&Ns
if you want to examine it in better lighting, look at the catalogue or the website. photos are better staged and fabrics are billowing and swinging around just so.</p>

<p>what I learned

1. He did not make princess Kate’s dress. he was dead long before. It was his long time help and now successor’s design and made by his team. (thus wearable and walkable)
2. his mum died (75) about a week before his 2010 suicide (40)
3. apprenticed at traditional tailors since 16 to 18sh after quit school.
4. he applied to central st.martins for the technical teaching job (he had no A level done) but accepted for MA instead because of his potential in portfolio.
   his graduation show pieces are bought out on the spot by his benefactor fashinosta, who also killed herself in 2007.
5. yes, they are clam shells.</p>

<p>from the interview with Sarah Burton, the successor of the Alexander McQueen house.
Q. Do you think he saw himself as an artist?
A. I don’t know. Lee (Alexander’s first name) wanted to go back to art college.
He actually got into the Slade school to do art, but he always called himself a designer, not an artist.
he was a showman more than anything. Still, when you think about the way he designed, it did feel more about art.
It was never, “Oh, is that comfortable?”
It was all about the vision and the head-to-toe look of it. When you saw the models lined up, it was so clear and so direct Lee was a designer who was making a world and telling a story.
Sometimes it was on such a level that maybe the fashion audience wasn’t the right audience to tell it to, but what audience was right? That’s the problem, I think he had.
The stigma.
Is it fashion? Is it art?
But if it’s not making money, you can’t do these amazing shows.
Lee did care about the commercial side of the industry, but what most people remember are the shows.</p>

<p>and here is the designer’s last quote in the catalogue
-I find beauty in the grotesque, like most artists.
I have to force people to look at things.</p>

<p>I half wish he did gone back to art school to slow down a bit.
not necessary most art, artists are grotesque. if he wasn’t a peer of the shark-in-formaldehyde guy, he would have known. He was at the Met to check on his piece in the Anglomania (2006) show. but what he cared was this one pleat that was amiss on the mannequin, not rest of the Met’s holdings. maybe he did not have enough time to look around or couldn’t care much, I don’t know.
he was a born artist/designer who find inspiration in nature and genealogy but did poorly in school.
why is that one could never have it all? or how is that had to be fashion or art or anything?
do commercially well to make money to be able to spend money to do amazing things.
it is the common trap that had to do with why they’d keep killing themselves in one way or another.
savegely, maybe.</p>

[loveblue]

<p>So sad he dead at such young age. Maybe achievement high did give him pressure and the desire to stay there cause problem. it is my guess, feel sad.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>it’s not good news to bump Cooper thread 18,888 views
Lucian Freud died on July 21 age 88
<a href=“http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=49245[/url]”>http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=49245&lt;/a&gt;
when Cy Twombly died few weeks ago, I knew there will be more to come during summer.
there are cluster of same generations often die one after another. how does that feel being peer and getting old, being few that left.
I have no idea if they were friends or anything(doubt it) but if you hear such news, it’s hard to imagine not being affected in any way.</p>

<p>Lucian Freud painted fat, scary old nude man and one of them is at the Met.
that is the piece my kid picked to write essay about when he started art voc HS, because it was the gross-est (means the best) piece in there.
the model was an actor and the painter’s friend. just this big, naked, unpleasant back (and butt cheek) sitting on the stool.
There was the MoMA show soon after, with his prints. since it’s black and white, gross-ness was subdued but you could see what the artist is really about.
never, never piggyback-ing on his grandpa’s fame as some people assumed.
he had his story to tell, told it in only his way.
here is more
<a href=“Memorial service to be held for artist Lucian Freud”>Memorial service to be held for artist Lucian Freud;

[artsmarts]

<p>Always loved Freud’s paintings. Nothing sweet about them which is what appealed to me I guess. And so obviously I never cared for Renoir.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>19,100 plus views
Artnews magazine’s popular feature is “Retrospective”
tiny column that lists each 100 years ago, 75 years ago, 50 years ago, 25 years ago of the same month what have said in art related publications that in comparison to today’s standard, how amusing, obscure or still rings true.
think what Greek philosopher cried over “today’s youth” sort of thing.
in current Summer issue (pre auction season, slow magazine season and not published monthly) on 100 years ago </p>

<ul>
<li>The white marble lions which flank the outer entrance Fifth Avenue stairway of the new Public Library, and which have been, and continue to be, the subject of much criticism -have prominent and unusual manes which extend under their chins, in the manner of beards worn by men of an older American generation. It has been suggested that they should be severally given the names of “Peter Cooper” and “Horace Greeley.”
- “A Generous Gift,” July 15, 1911</li>
</ul>

<p>I did not know who Horace Greeley is and had to look up.
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Greeley[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Greeley&lt;/a&gt;
here is some visual ref. of Peter Cooper
<a href=“http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=peter%20cooper&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi[/url]”>http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=peter%20cooper&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&lt;/a&gt;
and the library lions.
<a href=“http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=NYPL%20lions&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi[/url]”>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=NYPL%20lions&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&lt;/a&gt;
and bit from wikipedia.
-Two famous stone lions guarding the entrance were sculpted by Edward Clark Potter. They were originally named Leo Astor and Leo Lenox, in honor of the library’s founders. These names were transformed into Lady Astor and Lord Lenox (although both lions are male). In the 1930s they were nicknamed “Patience” and “Fortitude” by Mayor Fiorello La Guardia. He chose these names because he felt that the citizens of New York would need to possess these qualities to see themselves through the Great Depression. Patience is on the south side (the left as one faces the main entrance) and Fortitude on the north.</p>

<p>^I don’t think those nickname in 30s are known to the general public (=me, who could not spell “fortitude” nor know where that come from). “Peter and Horace” might had better chance. either way, then controversial design became cherished icon and global tourists attraction 100 years later.</p>

[loveblue]

<p>Cooper ranks as one of the nation’s most sober schools:</p>

<p>[Top</a> party, sober schools from Princeton Review](<a href=“http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/august/288725/Top-party-sober-schools-from-Princeton-Review?cid=rss]Top”>http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/august/288725/Top-party-sober-schools-from-Princeton-Review?cid=rss)</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>thankx love
I gotta copy-post this in some film thread I am at!!! heheheheh
it is interesting both CUNY Brooklyn and Queens are in “sober”
these are “smart” local CUNYs for immigrants’ kids lives at home, with parents (intact marriage unless one dead or can’t come to US yet) siblings galore. there would be little spending money, lots of household chores. no kidding no dating no party. Asian Hispanics heavy. different values, different world.
maybe engineering school could share some of that same trait (cooper eng being biggest class) and Olin is in there, too.
otherwise army navy school or religious school.
… should parents be assured or worried???</p>

[joyjoy1321]

<p>FYI:
Schools by Type: Stone-Cold Sober Schools
Based on a combination of survey questions concerning the use of alcohol and drugs, hours of study each day, and the popularity of the Greek system</p>

<p>So if you don’t have a Greek system and you study a lot you are likely to be stone cold sober even if there is plenty of alcohol around. I know at Olin, there was plenty of drinking on weekends if you were interested but it was not pushed on you.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>thank you love for bumping and 19, 300 plus now
<a href=“http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=49580[/url]”>http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=49580&lt;/a&gt;
AIA is dead serious, or Mattel is, at least.
just a contest, not going to make and sell toy house out of it nor built real thing like the one in Malibu. measly $1000 is donated to Philly’s inner-city art magnet school.
yet yet
I want my own “inspiration room”. I bet these girl architects would, too. starting out in NYC, who wouldn’t??? chef’s kitchen, gardens, library, terrace, pets. awwww</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>^^^joyjoy
so you actually go to Olin???
what’s like, do tell do tell.
Peter Cooper would like to know.</p>

[joyjoy1321]

<p>I graduated from Olin. What do you want to know?</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<ol>
<li>how long ago?</li>
<li>which other schools did you decline to attend?</li>
<li>any girl that act and look like girl in the class?</li>
<li>what is your typical schedule like, when to get up, how many classes how long, what did you eat (were there fruit loops with milk for breakfast like any other college?) when did you go to sleep?</li>
<li>what do you do now?</li>
<li>would you do anything differently hindsight as school/major choice goes?</li>
<li>who is your hero?</li>
<li>if you can make one thing possible for human race, what that could be?</li>
</ol>

[joyjoy1321]

<p>lol. That’s a lot of questions.</p>

<p>1) Graduated in 2006 (was part of first class and was an Olin Partner)</p>

<p>2) You’d be surprised how hard it is to remember. I was not typical in my application choices as I ideally wanted a christian college. Also, I hated essays so I didn’t apply to many that took them. And I’m not sure the common ap was around back then? I was accepted everywhere I applied.
-Milwaukee School of Engineering (offered one of 7 full rides + stipend)
-Rose-Hulman
-Regis University in Colorado (had a 3-2 program with Washington St Louis for Eng)
-LeTourneau (partial scholarship, Christian college with engineering)
-Grove City (Christian college with engineering)
-Truman State (random)
-some more I forgot</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Really not sure about this? All the girls acted pretty much like girls. Olin is about 45% female.</p></li>
<li><p>Are you a stalker? I got up right before my first class at around 8? and went to bed at 2-4 am my early years, closer to midnight as I got older. Took occasional naps. Our dining hall is FABULOUS.
<a href=“http://olin.edu/academics/docs/Yr1-4%20website%20diagram%2008-09.pdf[/url]”>http://olin.edu/academics/docs/Yr1-4%20website%20diagram%2008-09.pdf&lt;/a&gt; </p></li>
<li><p>I’m probably the least impressive student in my graduating class. I live in a small city and there aren’t a lot of jobs and I can’t relocate due to my husband’s PhD program. I work in IT and use SQL and Crystal Reports.</p></li>
<li><p>I think instead of Systems Engineering I might have done MechE but I’m not sure. I would have tried harder to truly understand instead of worrying about completing assignments. I think I would had a higher technical confidence if I had a more traditional route learning, problem set, theoretical school but I would not necessarily be a better engineer. And I’m sure there is no where I could have grown more as a person or more confident of my self in general than Olin.</p></li>
<li><p>My current hero is a friend who lives in a poor neighborhood and opens her home to all the neighborhood children and makes their families feel welcome and loved.</p></li>
<li><p>I would make it so we couldn’t hate each other.</p></li>
</ol>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>so you are the girl look like girl!!!
yep I am a nosy sexist stalker.
maybe you can be friend with loveblue here.
I am IT moron, or anything math science for that matter.
stay around if you want to know what’s up in the other side of Cooper Union (art=Peter’s step child, or accidental offspring)</p>

[switters]

<p>Hi joyjoy I’m a woman engineer too. I hated essays. I graduated 20 years before you. Did I miss something? Why is Bears stalking you? How did you end up on this art thread? Pleased and curious, not trying to chase you away.</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>yessss you missed ton while you are playing with your iphone!!
I was curious about cult engineering school this lady^ went because I couldn’t figure out why all those colleges I visited had buildings named after the same guy, and this school got full name.
I have not yet to meet living Olin grad in my life because the school started only 10 or so years ago.
you’d wanted to go there if the school existed in your time!!!
they used to give everyone full ride, only selected finalists invited to campus for torture session, only one in four-five out of invitees would be accepted etc etc (sound familiar, eh love love love these cult feature)
I don’t know if joyjoy would stick around, she must smelt here(art) from keyword “Olin”
I hope she would.
so you all can talk women and math’n science.</p>

[joyjoy1321]

<p>If Olin had been opened when you were a student you might have liked going there. As it is, if you ever get an application from an Olin student where you work you should hire him/her. Part of the reason I chose engineering was because I hated writing! I am here because I searched the word Olin. I like to answer questions about it and spread the word if possible. Bear is stalking me I suspect because he is bored and likes to have a high post count.</p>

<p>As for cults…Olin isn’t even close! If you want a true cult try the </p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>19,600 and plus views.
I don’t know exactly what they are called, this manufacture says “cable ties”
<a href=“http://www.cabletiesplus.com/Products/11-Standard-Cable-Ties-(50-lb)-(Fluorescent-Colors)__CP-11-50-F.aspx[/url]”>http://www.cabletiesplus.com/Products/11-Standard-Cable-Ties-(50-lb)-(Fluorescent-Colors)__CP-11-50-F.aspx&lt;/a&gt;
if you go to Astor place/ Cooper Square now, some of sign/lamp posts are wrapped by hundreds of tightly packed these colorful ties.
from distance, it looks like giant pipe cleaner. I did see it was made out of these plastic ties only looked at closely.
however, color theme is random. some post is rainbow colored in neat order, some are just mixed and jumbled.
these sort of guerrilla street arts are common (I did finally see “exit through the giftshop”) but this randomness and location leaks Cooper students’ involvement.
It have to be taken down eventually, and pain in the neck to do that for city folks since some ties are risen up 15-20 feet high, and these are heavy duty ones closed in tight to make tail parts longest and pointing all around direction, you might have to cut individual plastic strip with cutter.
if this manufacture sells 100 pieces for retail price of 8 bucks, it costed the artist(s) about 200 bucks to cover five or so posts. only to be wasted and gone landfill eventually.
even bought whole sale, they could have had nice lunch rather.
even if materials are free, still what it might add to city scape (not much, since it is spotty and obviously not well planned) does not make it even for all the trouble they had to go thru tying around these poles hi hi up (with ladder? standing on one’s shoulder?)
Banksy they aren’t, but who knows. it could be the beginning of something big.
after all, it’s Cooper Square!!</p>

[loveblue]

<p>It is nice to read your post and I wish I can be there to see!</p>

[bears_and_dogs]

<p>thank you love for bumping and now over 19,700 views.
don’t encourage me but here it goes.
this week’s Village Voice has its “Education Supplement” for back to school season.
I remember last year, I happened to pick up copy with the same supplement (the cover story was a Cooper student lost one eye) at filmforum killing time for the show.
so whole year have passed? I haven’t done ANYTHING!!!
wanna do something new this year?
here’s the answer!</p>

<p>“back to school” in Voice paper means advertisements are mostly for continuing education.
sure enough on page 5, half page is taken by Julliard at Night 2011-2012
for novice to professional artist
credit and non-credit classes begin Sep 10
understanding jazz
swan lake (wagwagwag)
the artistic role of the audience (huh?)
Gustav Marhler and his world (bowwowwow)
etc…
another half is Cooper (on the left upper) and Pratt (left lower, wonder which spot costs more to buy?)</p>

<p>The Cooper Union
continuing education fall 2011
registration begins Aug 23
Openhouse Sep 8
6:30 to 8PM
41 Cooper square
$25 reg. fee waived for those who register at the Open House.
book arts
printmaking
collage and mixed media
letterpress printing
art history and contemporary art
studio and gallery tours
digital photography
calligraphy
painting and drawing
foreign languages (free for the certain tiger cub)
personal finance
NYC history
knitting and crochet (cute, but…)
green building design courses and certificate
typeface design certificate</p>

<p>Here is Pratt
COMPUTER GRAPHICS @PRATT
RESET YOUR SKILL SET.
courses are at Pratt Manhattan (phew)
CAD and visualization
computer animation and video
electric imaging and illustration
electronic publishing
interactive media
digital photography</p>

<p>few pages after, another one quarter ad by Pratt
Open House
featuring certificate programs & professional development courses
Tue Aug 23
5:30-7:30PM
2nd floor 144 W 14th street</p>

<p>^Pratt seems more eager. Copper only start registration on the same Aug 23, Tuesday but someone in layout could have thought it would confuse readers if they’d posted the same date on the same page. </p>

<p>then, finale is of course, SVA!!! half page taken already on page 18 plus,
Whole back cover with pretty awful graphics (always, why oh why)
-There is no better purpose in life than to start (note: within the word “start” a, r and t are printed in red. cony!!!) the work you love.
HEART (again, “art” is red lettering, this must be the season’s selling word. in the biggest block font)
citizen designer
textile painting
type play
copywriting in Spanish
figurative sculpture
creating independent comics
web programming
lighting for HD
introduction to Toon Boom
gouache
exploring multimedia
trends in photography and contemporary art
illustration portfolio clinic
the world of design
digital sculpture
textile painting
the art of graphic novel
acting for animators (???)</p>

<p>^in short, you can pretty much learn anything art if you can pay. I do suspect SVA really do runs on CE profits.</p>