<p>read my thread!
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/870372-test-your-cooper-iq.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/870372-test-your-cooper-iq.html</a>
maybe you don’t even want to get involved</p>
<p>Cooper has film and now, sound concentration. you still can be classmates</p>
<p>Parlsky…it depends where you live in the county. From where we are it is an hour bus ride each way. There are some towns (Nanuet, Pearl River, Spring Valley, Suffern) that have train stations. The trains go into Secaucus Junction and then transfer to Penn Station. That’s about an hour each way too.</p>
<p>Would your son be with you? Do you have to consider schools for him?</p>
<p>I’m familiar with the hometest requirements. I love looking at other peoples tests.</p>
<p>The time and energy spent will be excessive, but the challenges will be a thrill.</p>
<p>That doesnt mean they’ll like my stuff, but my soul’s pretty calloused at this point.</p>
<p>come to NYC! uproot yourselves already, we got world famous “fame school” of art HS performing, film, visual covered, all free if your S get in including lunch and subway (for now at least) you need to start prep about now for its audition, or will be reject like my kid.
nah, I know how people think… no bathtub, closet, sunlight, rat roaches bedbugs but oh so expensive 2k and up for shoe-box sized apartment blah blah
where drae is and area are lovely, so in long island, westchester. NY can be many deferent thing up to where you are and how you want to live.
options are endless, otherwise how Florida CA Midwest India Central/ South America genius kids with no family money would take on Cooper journey?
I truly wish Peter Cooper had established free housing for future kids 150 years later, in, say, Peter Cooper Village? (sic)
Good luck, dad, really, we are rooting on you.</p>
<p>An hour isnt a bad commute, I’ve done that before.</p>
<p>My son lives with his mother, whose head I am pretty sure would implode if he told her he wanted to go to NY with me!</p>
<p>“come to NYC! uproot yourselves already, we got world famous “fame school” of art HS performing, film, visual covered, all free if your S get in including lunch and subway (for now at least) you need to start prep about now for its audition”</p>
<p>Funny you should say that, my son and I just had a little talk over the weekend about how we needed to start working towards a portfolio and aquiring skills. I had 6 months to put mine together the first time around and had almost no help.</p>
<p>If we’re both going to be in school, I’m going to need a lot of scholarship monies!</p>
<p>If you will be living on your own you can look into living with the hipsters in Bed Stuy and Bushwick or just the regular folks in Washington Heights or the Bronx (Yankee Stadium area is ok).</p>
<p>Bears can say more.</p>
<p>gawk
it hit 4,800 already? must be parlsky’s visit brought the good luck
Stuyvesant Town—Peter Cooper Village is a housing complex built for after great depression people needing cheap housing and for returning WW II vet.
it was rent regulated and tenants lived there forever getting old until 2006, it was sold to this company with record breaking amount. I can look up who those people are, but let’s just say, big bad wolf.
big bad wolf wanted to make place upgraded, clean and neat, so can charge “market” price, meaning IBR 2.5K and up ( there you go, smarty) where old grandpas living there have been paying less than 1K or so. those grandpas won’t able to pay once their apartment become " market valued" so forced to get out or fight. They fought, sort of won but sort of lost because big bad wolf could not get enuff suckers to pay market price anyways and at the same time economy tanked, ran away to save his own hide.
there were two bank guys, badder than big bad wolf- who rent money so big bad wolf could buy the complex to begin with.
now fighting over who should take over after where big bad wolf left off.
they met at court last week, nothing decided no peace achieved, all the while grandpas have no idea what become of their beloved home for decades- how long could they afford to rent, if they are to turn into condo, would they able to own it?</p>
<p>I have never been inside of the complex that runs from 14th to 20-sh, 1st Ave to Ave C. no idea from where is Stuyvesant Town, from where is Peter Cooper Village. it won’t be affordable anyways any longer.
when it was opened 1947, rent was less than 100 bucks /month, but not in today’s value proportioned to income and what everything costs.
I am no fammom don’t know how money works. just that, if big bad wolf did not mess it up in the first place, if banking guys did not helped big bad wolf expecting fat return which never came, if city stepped in before things gotten total limbo ( couldn’t even if wanted to, because the complex is privately owned ) now everyone’s time and money is wasted to find solution - civil action people, lawyers, advice givers, court people, listening to court people, writing about all these people, publishing people for all those writings, all need to get payed. all the while grandpas are aging every day some are gone to assisted housing or died.</p>
<p>someone decided to name the place after Peter. because the housing was to help everyday people Peter loved and cared for. only it didn’t after 50-60 years because just having place to live and enuff to eat is no longer the goal for some ( big bad people) and for someone still is, the place that were not at all convenient nor hip when they start living there but had no other choice now have to give up the way of living for the changing world, landscape, big bad people’s greed.
what would Peter say?</p>
<p>happy 4,900 views and new CE season!
Cooper wannabe NYC HS kids, get ready!
there are two different kind of Saturday classes for HS kids.
they aren’t BFF. two separate offices, different people, different agenda, like FBI and CIA, Democrat and Republican.
New this year, Outreach no longer offer portfolio prep during winter but
“New Media & guest artist series” for 10 - 12 grades. review on Dec. more info to come.</p>
<p>you can tell differences in attitude from what they ask you to do in order to get in.
It’s your choice, fun and accepting anything a go Saturday Program or hi mighty snooty selective Outreach.
either ones all free include supply and occasional snacks thank you thank you Peter Cooper.</p>
<p>Saturday Program (for NYC public school deprived kids) = us
application due 9/21/10
If your HS does not have application, you can pick up from 30 Cooper Square 2nd floor. there is a bulletin board out of the office with application in the file pocket.
open for 9-12th grade plus post HSgrads
pick 1st and 2nd choice from
arch, graphics, sculpture, sound composition, life drawing, painting, portfolio prep ( see below)
for info call 212 353 4108</p>
<p>Saturday Program portfolio prep = us, but need to pass review
HS seniors only
asked to attend informal review, please bring samples of your work, personal or school projects-drawings, paintings, sketchpads, collages, sculpture…as much as you can reasonably carry.
Note: portfolio case is not required, just keep work neat.
Review will be held on Saturday, Oct 2, 2010
8:30am to 1:00pm last names beginning with Z to N
1:00pm to 4:00pm M to A
@ shiny new academic building, 41 cooper square
P.S. students who have not applied by the due date may also come to be reviewed.</p>
<p>Outreach (for NYC “area” HS students suburb, prep private public moneyed HS elites or poor but geniuses) = them
there are extra apps at review site on the review day you can fill it up on the spot, or Outreach office is on 6th floor, 30 Cooper Square. there is pocket with apps in it left out for Outreach office is not always manned.</p>
<p>Fall program
drawing, writing, and photography or print making (there will be winter, Spring program with different courses)
Sep 25 - Nov 13, 2010<br>
grades 11-12
portfolio review Sep 18, 2010
All applicants MUST attend portfolio review, with artwork ready for viewing.
Portfolio reviews will be held at 41 cooper Square, 1st floor.
Arrive according to your last name
A-M 10am-12pm
N-Z 12pm - 2pm
your portfolio should include about 10-20 pieces. Bring in work, done at home or at school, that you feel best represent your abilities, motivation, and interests. Also include some drawings from observation - drawings made from looking at an actual object, place, or situation. The work does not need to be matted. If you have a sketchbook, please bring that, too.
info <a href=“http://www.saturdayoutreach.org%5B/url%5D”>www.saturdayoutreach.org</a> or call 212 353 4202</p>
<p>Cooper should be paying you bears.</p>
<p>You’re like a Cooper promotional monster.</p>
<p>More like the promotional angel.</p>
<p>They should hire her. They aren’t too great in the communication department. But as I said, I chalk that up to the vortex surrounding the area.</p>
<p>( take a bow)
thank you thank you god bless Cooper!</p>
<p>Oh I almost forgot.
Cooper dumpster is here! in front of foundation building.
thou it is more like for construction junk, metal exhaust pipe parts, rough plywood etc.
no fun art stuff this time</p>
<p>yippeeee 5000!
Peter Cooper park is a small excuse of a park, triangle drab in front of foundation building that split Bowery and 4th avenue, which then become Cooper Square in length of Cooper turf.
in there sat Peter Cooper (not near as big as Lincoln to make statement) here is the info board the city put up during Giuliani era on the fence that surrounds stature, obviously to protect Peter from possible vandalism that include urinating onto it.</p>
<p>Following Cooper’s death in 1883 Augustus Saint-Gaudens (1848-1907) the preeminent 19th century sculptor and one of the earliest alumni of Cooper Union (class of 1864) was commissioned to design a monument in honor of the great visionary.
Saint-Gaudens collaborated with the renowned architect Stanford White (1853 -1906) who created pieces marble and granite canopy…</p>
<p>the artist completed 27 sketches of different versions- chosen this sitting with right foot forward, left hand holding staff right fist on right knee, slight smile if you see in the right angle. no trademark eye glasses, bet it is hard to sculpt…
public fundraising made $39K, only needed $28K so rest was used to make this park. completed in May 29, 1897. cleaned / restored three times since, looks like it can use another one.</p>
<p>On the pedestal it says -my brain friend taught me how to read Roman numerals and why used letter “V” for every “U” thou I can’t remember… anyone?
ELECTED BY THE CITIZEN OF NEW YORK IN GRATEFVL REMEMBRANCE
PETER COOPER
FOVNDER OF THE ADVANCEMENT OF SCIENCE AND ART
ANNO DOMINI
M.D.C.CC.XC.VII.</p>
<p>When my kid did PSAT prep (ah those days I still had ambition for him enuff to save up hefty $$ and made sure he went to every class) at Kaplan on Cooper Square, I 'd wait in the park often doing dessan (Japanese style drawing) of the statue. the park was empty except few bums sleeping or talking on the bench, I 'd pick a bench that is not occupied to sit and draw.
and that statue is darn hard thing to draw. Augustus saint guy must be a master but his stuff is not that fun nor great, as all other dead men’s figures he’ve done which scattered in the city. It looks fine as a whole but try drawing it, hands, feet are not in right size, distance to the eyes are not even. of course I am somewhat looking up from weird angles (where unoccupied bench is) but if it is the true masterpiece, like Nike, Brutus, David, Mars etc replica we had to study during HS to get in to artschools, shouldn’t look reasonably OK from any given angles?
or those artists took liberty and made up perfect lines for mythology figures, but Peter had not died long enuff and needed to get approved by many more people who knew him well? (aw com’n he ain’t that good looking, more like…)</p>
<p>back to Peter
I have done five or six in stretch of weeks just to see if get any easier. bums became friendly and started critiquing “nah, that button’s too big” it was. “lookin’ good lookin’good” thank you sir.
nobody asked for change nor tried my Japanese pastry with cod roe butter paste on it.
NY is such that, I am still a tourist inside. so very lucky to be able to live and work here. I would have donated what I could for the park, though I still think the stature is not that good.</p>
<p>Hi BandD:
you said: “it means that if you want foreign language class, you’d need to go to humanity people and take class at NewSchool or, gawd, CE class ( free) and unless it is advanced classes, no credits would be awarded.”
What is NewSchool or gawd, CE class? I actually got lost on this.</p>
<p>you are so cute I want to eat you up grrrr
NewSchool is this big for-profit ( maybe not but sure looks like it) anything go sort of university. Parsons is part of it. buildings are scattered around downtown and I don’t know which one is it’s humanity school.
I am sure your D can find out. Cooper people can help her, just that it won’t count as gen ed. but I suspect your D need no gen ed foreign language.</p>
<p>gawd CE class
“gawd” is my bad habit saying in place of “god” because people get upset for some idiot using the word.
CE class is continuing education Cooper does for idiot like me in the evenings or maybe weekends to teach drawing, wine tasting, writing, knitting for money. It is not cheap, but being Cooper student, you D does not have to pay.
There are foreign language in different levels she can chose from, depending on schedule.
I never took Cooper’s class but did at some other colleges. those CE classes are usually filled with weird wannabe-middle age to old people has own biases or young people with no friend. there will be stupid people ask stupid questions
" Aw, you are from Japan! did any of your family die of A-bomb?" sort, you just have to smile and change subject. thou if your D grew up here and no accent to give away, she is safe.</p>
<p>I should have just gone say hello at the orientation to little switters boy I eyeballed right. then maybe I could have met you there. now I am dieing to meet you. let me know next time!</p>
<p>Hopefully I will visit there sometime and will be glad to meet you. Thanks!</p>
<p>5,100 and going
good morning
for any Cooper new kids lunch plan
finally found out where this samosa place is out of my kid.
he does not have good skill on spatial sense, can not give/take directions very well.
" you go, when, you know, the movie theater, there is a gas station, next corner… maybe before that, that’s where is"
Meaning it is on the first block south west side of Crosby street ( is between Broadway and Lafayette ) around the corner from Houston street, gas station is BP ( Big-bad Petroleum).</p>
<p>LAHORE feel the taste of East -Pakistani, Indian, Bangladesh food
there is a menu board that I could have spelled starting with “lental soup” outside of the tiny hole on the wall joint.
samosa is $1 and up depending on what’s in it. many mystery food are paraded.
to be safe, I just ordered one low key samosa and meat pie to-go.
the guy put them in the brown paper bag and nuked for me. $2.50 total.
it was, really, arguably, THE best samosa I have ever eaten.
crispy fluffy, savory.
as I munch on, the paper bag have gotten grease soaked but it is “good” kind of fat, you can feel it. smooth. silky.
no wonder Cooper kids are hooked.
open late to accommodate street vendors =samosa expert 's after job snack.
works well for before movie munch for Angelika film west Houston.</p>
<p>Falafel
there is this big sign painted on the side of the building on Cooper Square along with McD
" Shawarma
Falafel"
you can see it from Astor place and think, “well, it got to be some good falafel place”
WRONG
you are to ignore that flashy one and go to St Marks 20-22 sh </p>
<p>Mamoun’s falafel
place was packed.
since I was full of samosa, I bought baklava $ 1.50 for late night snack.
In my humble opinion, what baklava to falafel place is sort of brioche to French boulangerie.
you can tell how good the place is by simply eating brioche (baklava)
and?
oh so good it was… flaky and juicy, not overpoweringly sweet nor sticky, no funky bee smell from honey nor bitterness from walnuts
the best baklava… means they must must have best falafel.
I will be going back soon, for price is real good, too.</p>
<p>happy eating cheap, glad no meal plan!!</p>