Cornell or Michigan?(Transfer choices)

<p>How harder is Cornell compared to Mich. in terms of premedical/biology coursework?
Based on harshness of grading/curves, courseload, difficulty, hours spent on studying, etc.</p>

<p>both, i was waitlisted at umich, and rejected from cornell, my guidance counselor was furious, b/c i should have gotten into both with my stats. </p>

<p>but yeah, im tranferring to these schools too, they're both great and expensive. its a lot easier to transfer</p>

<p>They're both known for a no-inflation, wicked curve type grading ;)</p>

<p>Do you know what schools are known for inflation?
Don't mention HYPS - too well known for inflation</p>

<p>Cornell and Michigan both have DEFLATION, particularly at Michigan for pre med and pre business classes. For example, in my organic chemistry class, the mean was 62%, which turned out to be a b-. I had an 80-something%, and I got an A-, but it wasn't easy. At either school you will be forced to work hard to get good grades and spend additional time outside of class and suggested homeowkr in order to perform well; HOWEVER, both schools offer many resources. For example, almost all science courses have peer-led study groups offered through the Science Learning Center, so basically if you take advantages of the resources the University has to offer, you will be fine.</p>

<p>nirvanarageatm, if you had only transfer choices in Cornell and Michigan, which one would you go for? (Assuming that they have same tuition, and if you want to get a bettter GPA)</p>

<p>i visited ithaca and did not like it, and I am a HUGE college sports fan, so I would choose Michigan. Cornell is a little more for out of state than Michigan, but as far as getting a better gpa, that should not sway your decision inasmuch as if you make your decision based where you think you can get better grades, you are totally missing the point of college. At either school unless you are a genious and/or have no life you will get b's in some classes. College is about intellectual growth and development, and if you are not challenged and forced to step out of your comfort zone, you will not develop fully. Medical schools realize which schools inflate grades and as a result are starting to look at mcats more. Also, are you sure you want to transfer? You might end up really liking wherever you decide to matriculate. I personally however think Ann Arbor is the greatest town in the world (and I have travelled all over the world), and I am counting down the days until the first football game next season at the big house. The school pride and atmosphere is amazing, so yes, I would pick Michigan.</p>

<p>I went to both Michigan (undergrad) and Cornell (grad) and I would pick Michigan over Cornell for my undergrad. Cornell is a little too isolated and Ithaca a little too small for my liking. </p>

<p>Academically, you will notice little if any difference. The two schools are excellent and challenging. They are also both highly respected and they both place students well into Medical School.</p>

<p>MI----CHI----GAN > CORNELL</p>

<p>"both, i was waitlisted at umich, and rejected from cornell, my guidance counselor was furious, b/c i should have gotten into both with my stats. " </p>

<p>could you please post your stats? Please?</p>

<p>sat: 1330, bio=700, writing=660, math2c 690</p>

<p>gpa:4.43/4.6 = A
top 10%</p>

<p>5 AP's: bio4, chem5, us history4, calculus bc 5, statistics 5</p>

<p>medical science 4 year program at school. i am 1/24 kids taken in entire district. </p>

<p>leadership: 9th grade vice presdient student council, camp counselor for 3 years.</p>

<p>sports: volleyball-3 years, swimming-4 years</p>

<p>music: piano -12 years, big awards.
violin -8 years. new jersey state youth orchestra 1/30 high school kids, teach little kids violin during summers at camp. </p>

<p>comm service: 200+ hours at hospital, 150+ at church and various. Therefore 350+ hours</p>

<p>EC's: NHS, various school groups, youth group, other stuff that you people would not know</p>

<p>Cornell: major-biological sciences.....rejected
Umich: major-premed....waitlisted</p>

<p>umich and cornell were sure matches according to my guidance counselor</p>

<p>0/1400 on the waitlist was accepted in 2004. obviously no hope.</p>


<p>What is your Michigan GPA (unweighted, 10th & 11th grades only)? Are your grades improving in grade 12?</p>

<p>i'm sorry</p>

<p>but, stat-wise, neither Michigan nor Cornell is a match, both reach.</p>

<p>"sat: 1330, bio=700, writing=660, math2c 690" kinda low</p>

<p>ur ECs are AMAZING tho :)</p>

<p>Cornell Arts and Sciences was definitely a reach for you considering your test scores. Cornell has low averages because of schools like hotel administration. The scores are a little low for Michigan out of state, but I know out of staters with similar stats who got in, but they applied early in the admissions cycle-like in sept/oct. Anyway, your counselor was misinformed, but your other stats are impressive. Do not rely however on transfer admission, and again, you might like wherever you go.</p>

<p>i think you should of gotten into umich with those stats.....they are much better compared to mine and you seem much more involved in ec's than i.....</p>

<p>how late did you apply to umich? that may have influenced the decision as well because of the rolling process.....</p>

<p>deathrebornrevolution, most successful applicants have SATs in the 1300-1600 range and unweighed GPAs in the 3.8-4.0 range. Students under those numbers are reaches.</p>