Cornell statutory colleges question

<p>What do people at Cornell and Cornell’s employers think of statutory colleges in terms of prestige?</p>

<p>I guess it’s not going to be a black or white answer as most probably don’t care but some haters, elitists or whatever, might dislike those colleges or other colleges such as Hotel Administration.</p>

<p>Sometimes the people in the extreme (elitists, haters, Ann Coulter) have no influence over the majority (you’re average students in CAS or employers) but sometimes they do have a great influence. For example, if someome wants to be a model, that person is going to have to display certain characteristics that would probably seem futile for your average person. As a male, I do not care enormously about women having not a single pound of fat on their body, but if someone wants to be a model, it’s different, so the elitists win over the majority. I am wondering if that’s the case at Cornell…</p>

<p>No sane person here cares about any sort of distinction.</p>

<p>Good lord. When will this ever stop?</p>

<p>I just happen to have the Hotel School post graduate report from 2009…employers include Goldman Sachs, Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts, GE, Hilton, Ernst & Young, Barclays Capital, B of A, Deloitte Consulting, Credit Suisse, BlackRock, Caesar’s Palace, Fairmont Hotels and Resorts, Expedia, JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, the Peace Corps, PricewaterhouseCoopers, Prudential Financial, Starwood, Teach for America, Tishman Speyer, UBS, Unilever, W Hotels, Wolfgang Puck Catering, Wyndham Worldwide, Wynn Resorts–that’s probably 1/4 of the list, and as you may recall, 2009 was not exactly a banner year for employment of any kind.</p>

<p>That’s a nice list indeed. How do Cornellians view their fellow classmates in statutory schools? Do they make fun of them?</p>

<p>the only one who will be made fun of is you!</p>

<p>they don’t make fun of them because there’s nothing to make fun of, and also it is not Cornell Elementary School.</p>

<p>Your resume says Cornell University on it. It does not say which school you went to for the most part (ok, Engineers and Hotelies would do it if it’s their field), simply because most employers will not know the difference. Cornell on your resume carries enough weight.</p>

<p>well…your diploma says Cornell University on it, your resume can have whatever you choose. I just checked my most current resume, and I have put CALS on it, on the same line as Cornell University. I think it’s good to provide that sort of complete information in your resume, and it’s not like you would want to hide from prospective employers or schools which college you went to…presumably you chose the one that fits your interests best, so it should be something to show off.</p>

<p>Of course I chose the college “that fits [my] interests best”. As a matter of fact, I had never heard of this all thing about endowed vs. contract schools before being admitted. I know that many students in CAS feel like the contract schools and the hotel school make Cornell less “Ivy”.</p>

<p>I will probably be admitted to haas as a transfer student and over there, at least, I will be in a school which is not considered inferior by some students. Nonetheless, it’s sad because I love Cornell, and my major. I just don’t want to explain myself or feel simply inferior to CAS students. I think it is a legitimate concern… I don’t mind having less prestige than a Harvard student, but I do mind having less prestige than a classmate at Cornell simply because I attend a different college… Now, that difference in prestige might be justified (majors too specialized, easier to get into etc.) but I do not want to feel inferior than my classmates, that’s all.</p>

<p>I’m really glad I won’t be seeing you at Cornell next year. I am a CAS admit and do not look at the Hotelies or the CALS, ILR, HumEc admits any different. They are all Cornellians.</p>

<p>“What do people at Cornell and Cornell’s employers think of statutory colleges in terms of prestige?”</p>

<p>If people seem touchy, it’s because they feel it is in reality effectively a non-issue there, yet people continue to raise it, which makes it seems like a bigger deal than it in fact is, so they have to answer yet again . My opinion, FWIW:</p>

<p>Regarding people at Cornell, I think the perspective I most agree with is more reflected in this prior post:</p>

<p>“95% of Cornell students don’t care what college you attend. But, no one can guarantee that all 13,000 Cornell undergrads don’t care. A few may care (as this thread can attest) and you may even run into one or two of them. Should that deter you from applying to CALS or HumEc? No.”</p>

<p>Except I think it is higher than 95%. But not quite 100%.</p>

<p>Most people are aware that there are some differences in admissions criteria and numbers among the colleges. But they also know that these differences are relatively minor, in the big scheme of things. Moreover, one quickly realizes, once there, that there are outstanding individuals in all the colleges, and that excellence, aptitude, and ability comes in many forms. It would be difficult to envision college affiliation affecting social situations in any way.</p>

<p>Each of Cornell’s specialty colleges is the best nationally, or nearly so, in their particular areas, everyone there knows this. And the contract colleges are the most selective price-subsidized options that exist for NY state residents. everyone there knows this too.</p>

<p>There is some minor ribbing between students of various colleges, but it is more related to stereotypes of how hard each group allegedly works, etc. It is all good-natured, and actually none of these that I can think of involve the contract colleges.</p>

<p>Regarding employers:</p>

<p>I would imagine employers in fields directly related to the majors studied in the contract colleges think they are the best at what they do. For example, from everything I’ve read, ILR does great for HR recruiting.</p>

<p>As for employers in areas outside those fields, I imagine there are some differences of opinion, and a lot of variation about how well informed they are about it.</p>

<p>Thank you Monydad, that was very informative.</p>

<p>One of my friends is a freshman at cornell now, here’s how he explained the statutory colleges and their relationship with everyone else on campus:</p>

<p>He is in CAS, his best friend is in ILR
That kid’s girlfriend is in CALS, who’s sorority big sister is an engineer
That girls real little brother is in CAS, and his roommate is a hotellie</p>

<p>I took this as when you get up there, everyone sees each other as cornell material, and if they passed through the admissions process there must be some reason that they are a member of the cornell community. As monydad said, most people realize that each specialty college is the best in its field! ILR is the best program in the nation for that major, same for the hotel school, and CALS is arguably the one of the best of its type in the country. The Dyson School is also consistently ranked in the top 5 for undergraduate business programs in the country. There are so many facts on these boards that they don’t mean anything anymore, but from everything I’ve heard theres no reason to think you’d be looked down upon. If someone didn’t like Cornell, they wouldn’t have gone there!</p>

<p>I have talked to someone who majored in History at Cornell CAS and worked in IB… she told me that everyone on campus does not discriminate against students in statutory schools but everybody knows they are not as prestigious…</p>

<p>Cornellvshaas, you definitely sound like a ■■■■■. Giye it up. I’m a CAS student, and this is really not an issue.</p>

<h1>15 is just a more negatively-phrased restatement of my 6th paragraph of #12, with the important qualifiers omitted.</h1>

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Consider the possibility that, with a limited experience of only taking classes in her field, that person you consulted is probably ignorant of anything beyond heresay. I was based in a statutory college and intellectually ran circles around my CAS and other endowed college classmates. I was out-of-state. The major I wanted was in a statutory college, so I went to a statutory college. Simple as that. </p>

<p>If you can’t simplify it to that, then don’t go to Cornell. You really don’t deserve to attend any of the top colleges in the world that the university has to offer if you can’t appreciate what is being offered to you. Let the spot go to someone who will. </p>

<p>Your question has been answered and you just keep pushing it. Clearly, you made your mind up before you even started this thread, so go find some school where your fragile ego can be coaxed without reservation. Cornell works best for those who have self-motivation and clear purpose, not those seeking constant external validation. I’m honestly not sure you’re ready for the big leagues yet. Only you can know that, though. </p>

<p>Good luck in your decision.</p>