My son has one and he is still working now and getting paid. It seems some colleges are still paying kids till the end of the semester up to a certain amount . But you bring up a good point. When looking for work study jobs maybe concentrate on those that can be done online. My son’s part of a university college department. The only difference was live meetings. Those can easily be done online and they actually did a few like this anyway. Basically planning meetings. Zoom works great for that.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/04/19/college-furloughs-have-begun/
“Higher education will remember April, 2020 as the month the furloughs began. Because of the coronavirus pandemic, colleges across the country sent students home in March and shifted to online instruction. But this month the focus has already moved to addressing the massive revenue losses and cost increases that colleges must absorb, both in the current year and for the upcoming one.”
One thing also is the amount of money that the colleges are going to lose this summer from the high school camps and activities they have over the summer. These are usually well attended and just about every field is represented. This is going to affect what is charged in the fall also
Going to be interesting.
It’s not going to affect just next year’s budget. I expect to see the losses spread across at least the next 3 years. Losses from refunded tuition, summer programs, endowment changes, and possible fall losses on top of continued market fluctuations make the situation a very bad one. And the aid from the feds is a drop in the bucket by comparison.
I saw an article that kids (elementary) in Denmark went back to school with social distancing in effect. Sure, its a tiny country with low rates, but this gave me hope that SOMEONE went back to school!
I think that elementaries and high schools in the US will go back before colleges can open. That should give us some idea of how the classroom part will go. I agree that the the dorm living part of it is the biggest issue! Treating roommates like household members makes sense. But that sounds pretty hard and impractical or unrealistic, to have kids on campus and expect them not to socialize with ANYONE in person besides their roommates. Then there is the issue of getting food and just the reality of being confined to that single room.
Saw the Denmark story as well. My D teaches 25 3rd graders in a portable. To have as much social distance as the pictures with that story showed, she would have to have less than half her class at a time. They sit shoulder to shoulder at lunch. To get 6 ft between them will be hard. And then recess! Sure you can skip that, but ask any teacher after a week of bad weather with no recess how focused the children are. I hope there’s a way to get back but not optimistic this year.
Maybe having teachers there and few students at time for end of year meetings. This would give wrap up and closure for year and allow for IEP meetings, etc. That’s my best case guess.
The Denmark story showed how different K-12 classes are in the US. Even a typical school bus can have over 50 students. We do not have close to the same system here and our system is very unlikely to be able to adapt as easily.
Ugh, I wish I could remember in which thread a helpful user posted information about the Department of Education allowing schools to continue paying kids for work study. I found the document online that states that and sent it to my daughter’s school. They responded that they are paying students if they can do their job remotely.
I wrote back, "I appreciate the prompt response. I am disappointed, though, because the Department of Education makes it clear that schools can pay students even if they cannot fulfill their FWS obligations (see below) due to a COVID-19 related interruption, which is what we are experiencing. Any thoughts about that?
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An institution may pay a student enrolled at an eligible institution who:
· Received an FWS award for the award period during which a COVID-19 related interruption occurred on the campus;
· Earned FWS wages from the institution for that award period; and
· Was prevented from fulfilling his or her FWS obligation for all or part of the award period due to a COVID-19 related interruption."
Oh, well, it was worth a try.
U of Wyoming paid all its students working for the university for the rest of the semester - TA’s, work study, labs, etc. The government already paid the schools for some of this work (work study) and many of the research grants paid for the projects students were working on.
Haverford decided to pay all student workers who cannot work due to covid a one time payment equal to what they’d earned in the pre-covid part of the semester.
^So maybe it’s just up to the discretion of each school. I just figured that if it was federal money, the school wouldn’t lose anything by offering the pay.
From the Lewiston (ME) Sun Journal
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LEWISTON — It’s possible Bates College may not have a normal fall semester either.
With the coronavirus pandemic continuing to spread and physical distancing recommendations likely to remain in place for a long while, the college is creating special committees to figure out what comes next for its students, faculty and staff.
The panels, slated to report in June, are supposed “to determine academic plans for the fall semester and manage college finances to address the ongoing implications of the pandemic,” according to a note to the faculty from college President Clayton Spencer.
More than a third of college presidents surveyed this month by the Association of American Colleges & Universities anticipate they may have to continue to rely on remote learning through the entire 2020-21 academic year. More than half are eyeing layoffs and budget cuts in the wake of shrinking revenue.
Colby College’s president in Waterville is talking about a potential delay in the start of the fall semester.
At Bowdoin College in Brunswick, panels like the ones created by Spencer are already at work.
Its committee to figure out academics is charged with looking into “the issues that would have to be addressed and with making recommendations for necessary changes, actions, and alterations in behavior that would be required in order to safely open the fall semester back on campus.”
Bowdoin’s financial committee is supposed to make recommendations for “budgetary changes in order to preserve the excellence of its programs while also preserving jobs” at the college.
Spencer said the new faculty-staff working groups at Bates are needed “to address the long-term implications of the crisis.”
The story continues here: https://www.sunjournal.com/2020/04/17/bates-college-considers-possible-changes-for-its-fall-semester/
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From the Lewiston (ME) Sun Journal
None of these LACs can make the remote vs in-person decision in a vacuum either…the State Governor, State/County Public Health Departments, sports conference leadership will all be part of the decision too.
Here’s how CARLETON COLLEGE deliberated about what action to take in the face of COVID-19 – The student newspaper’s interview with the college’s president:
I believe WS is only 70% federal money…
I heard back - “You are correct that students may continue to be compensated without working however Susquehanna has utilized all of its federal campus-based funding (including Federal Work Study) at this time of the year.”
He went on to say that students can still be compensated if they work remotely. My daughter has a great boss so she’s going to contact him to see if he can give her any work to do.
Some seniors at Bowdoin are making it known they do not want online. They would prefer anything but. Bring on the January start or the locked down fall campus but they really do not want online again.
Who's to say January will be better than October?
@TheVulcan – The virus won’t be gone, but what we need to re-open is testing and contact tracing. if we as a country can’t get testing and contact tracing in place by Jan. then heaven help us!! That said, states are having to do this on their own pretty much, but I still have faith…
@TheVulcan I know…but there will be a lot more info available before a Jan start. And, worse case scenario, a college could plan for Jan start and then move to online for January. The point is that many students do not want the college making a decision in June to go online for fall. As months tick by, the hope is that a solid answer to this question of being on campus will be reached. Maybe by October we will know enough to make it safe to be on a campus in Jan or have to accept that online is going to have to be the answer for 2020-2021. If possible, I’d also prefer to not have a decision made in June. That’s just eight weeks away. How could we know much more by then?