If anyone sees info on protocols and tips for self-quarantines, please send my way.
@Tigerle Any update from your corner of the world?
By the way, articles about the discovery of a second strain of coronavirus are noting that the more lethal strain was more prevalent in January than it is now.
Top US general creates âcrisis management teamâ to monitor the coronavirus outbreak
"Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, late last week established a âcrisis management teamâ to monitor the coronavirus outbreak around the world on a 24-hour basis, according to three US defense officials.
The team, headquartered in the Pentagonâs highly classified National Military Command Center, includes around the clock military personnel monitoring all incoming coronavirus information around the globe.
The crisis management team is keeping Milley and senior commanders up to date to properly brief the President on all military-related matters to the crisis." (CNN)
Customer Tasered over fight for loo roll
"A fight over toilet roll ended with a man being Tasered, Australian police said on Thursday, as coronavirus concerns drive panic buying.
Police were called to a store in the New South Wales town of Tamworth, about four hours drive north of Sydney, after the man allegedly lashed out and attacked another customer and a workerâŠ
Darwinâs daily paper, the NT News, made light of the loo roll hysteria, printing several blank pages for their readers to use if worst comes to the worst.
âWeâve printed an eight-page special lift-out inside, complete with handy cut lines, for you to use in an emergency,â the paperâs front page read." (Telegraph)
Iâve seen that many places but also contradictory reports which has made me hesitant to report either.
^^ LOL ( referring to post 3668)
Half is sad, IMO, the other part is funny and clever.
Doctor issues stark warning to Congress: âDonât just get up there and say this is a fluâ
"Dr. Peter Hotez, professor and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, warned members of Congress Thursday against minimizing the risks of novel coronavirus in the United States, calling it âthe angel of death for older individuals.â
During the House Committee on House Science, Space and Technology, Oklahoma Rep. Frank Lucas asked what advice he could take home to the public to not prevent panic and instill reasonable steps to avoid spread.
âIn an attempt to calm public fears, youâre hearing things like itâs a mild illness, this is like flu. Itâs not really the case because this is an unusual virus. For many young people, especially, it is a mild illness, but weâre seeing some devastating things,â Hotez responded.
Hotez said heâs particularly concerned about first responders, health care workers and nursing homes, saying that when the virus entered the Life Care Center in Kirkland, Washington, it ârolled through it like a trainâ and led to several deaths.
âThis is like the angel of death for older individuals. We need to go back and support all of our nursing home â I donât know what weâre doing wrong,â Hotez said. âClearly that nursing home was not prepared for this, and Iâm going to guess nursing homes across Oklahoma are not prepared, as well." âDonât just get up there and say this is a flu, this is a mild illness," he added. âOne, itâs not true and people in Oklahoma are pretty smart and will figure that out pretty quickly. Second, explain what the risks are ⊠and here are the steps that weâre doing to mitigate that.ââ (CNN)
Preach!
I would like to understand why the young whistleblower doctor in Wuhan died, if this is supposed to be mild for younger patients. It just doesnât make sense to me. He was 34.
@doschicos , I did find these re quarantine for a start:
https://medical.mit.edu/faqs/faq-2019-novel-coronavirus-2019-n-cov-self-isolation-issues
https://store.samhsa.gov/system/files/sma14-4894.pdf
https://time.com/5796642/how-to-quarantine-yourself-coronavirus/
I picked up a family member yesterday returning from international travel, not Asia or Europe. They connected through ATL then home through BOS. Both the domestic and international portions were full. Some wearing masks, some cleaning with wipes but not the majority. On the way down 12 days ago, the country visited asked about travel to China. Nothing different upon return to the US, no questions asked, albeit this country hasnât reported cases yet.
BTW, on MA highways, the overhead message boards were all about Covid-19. Eerie.
And on my longish drive I was listening to NPR which was broadcasting BBC at that hour. They were talking about Covid-19 and Africa. Sobering statistic - less than 50% of Nigerians have ready access to soap and water.
Thank you!
How are the new NY cases âconnectedâ to that lawyer? Family? Synagogue? Same grocery store? The Metro North trains? Folks in his place of employment?
Wouldnât that be good info to know?
Update from hospital:
First of all, people who smoke near hospitals and in the hospital garages deserve to have their human card removed.
Second, as of now no extra precautions or screening among general hospital staff.
First UK death is a woman in her 70s with underlying health conditions
Info on Italy fatalities
"Italyâs Civil Protection Agency has announced that 41 additional people have died in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of fatalities to 148.
Angelo Borrelli, head of the Italian Civil Protection Agency, said Thursday that those who had died were between the ages of 66 and 99 years-old; most were in âfrail conditionsâ and had underlying health problems, Borrelli added.
According to Borrelli, the number of those who have so far recovered from the virus has risen from 276 confirmed recoveries â as reported on Wednesday â to 414. Currently, 1790 patients remain in hospital, 351 individuals are in intensive care, and 1155 are in self-isolation."(CNN)
Thatâs assuming he died of the virus. Whistleblowers tend not to live long in China.
I think theyâve come up with some connections to the lawyer. His family, obviously. The neighbor who drove him. And another family that was friends with his and had contact. Anyone at synagogue events, at the kidsâ schools, work, neighbors, friends, and hospital staff have been IDed to the time of a thousand people that are being watched. Only those diagnosed with the virus are under mandatory quarantine however.
There have been other cases now, not connected to the New Rochelle case. He probably isnât/wasnât the only NYer with Covin-19. He just was diagnosed because he got so seriously sick from it due to underlying respiratory conditions. As more are tested, more will surface, Iâm sure. That virus is here in NY and not just in New Rochelle
Man, itâs hard to keep up with this thread! But worth it, I think itâs one of the best sources out there.
Two things: @doschicos post #3656 has âHow to self isolateâ guidelines from U Michigan.
And a good article:
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/coronavirus-mortality-rate-lower-than-we-think.html?fbclid=IwAR377bawG9AresVFVp6Xqhnky95m6nXEuhEabgwtU2xf3-4tubD0XsNqXVg
I am having a hard time impressing on my elderly parents how serious this is for them (they are in their 80âs). Very frustrating!!
Coronavirus can be killed with disinfectant but beware high-touch surfaces, new research from Singapore shows
"New research from Singapore indicates patients with the deadly coronavirus extensively contaminate their bedrooms and bathrooms, underscoring the need to routinely clean high-touch surfaces, basins and toilet bowls.
The virus was however killed by twice-a-day cleaning of surfaces and daily cleaning of floors with a commonly used disinfectant â suggesting that current decontamination measures are sufficient as long as people adhere to them.
The research letter was published on Wednesday in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), following cases in China where the pathogen spread extensively through hospitals, infecting dozens of health care workers and other patients.
This led scientists to believe that, beyond catching the infection through coughing, environmental contamination was an important factor in the diseaseâs transmission, but its extent was unclear. Researchers at Singaporeâs National Centre for Infectious Diseases and DSO National Laboratories looked at the cases of three patients who were held in isolation rooms between late January and early February. They collected samples from their rooms on five days over a two-week period. The room of one patient was sampled before routine cleaning, while the rooms of the other two patients were sampled after disinfection measures.
The patient whose room was sampled before cleaning had the mildest symptoms of the three, only experiencing a cough. The other two had moderate symptoms: both had coughing and fever, one experienced shortness of breath and the other was coughing up mucus. Despite this disparity, the patient whose room was sampled before cleaning contaminated 13 of 15 room sites tested, including a chair, the bed rail, a glass window, the floor, and light switches. Three of the five toilet sites were also contaminated, including the sink, door handle and toilet bowl â more evidence that stool can be a route of transmission. Air samples tested negative, but swabs taken from air exhaust outlets were positive â which suggests that virus-laden droplets may be carried by air flows and deposited on vents. The two rooms that were tested after cleaning had no positive results.
âSignificant environmental contamination by patients with Sars-CoV-2 through respiratory droplets and fecal shedding suggests the environment as a potential medium of transmission and supports the need for strict adherence to environmental and hand hygiene,â the authors wrote"