Agree. On 2/21, Italy had 20 confirmed cases and had just locked down a few towns in the “red zone”. The difference is, Italy did take fairly immediate and strict action in those areas where the initial cases surfaced.
The article mentioned taking them to a hospital. They also have pretty strict travel restrictions for non-citizens. Most going to the hospital would therefore be citizens.
https://www.gov.sg/article/covid-19-travel-restrictions-for-foreign-visitors-entering-singapore
If you are instructed by a physician or public health worker that you may potentially be infectious, you can quarantine at home so long as you have separate bedroom and (if possible) a separate bathroom that can be use to isolate the exposed individual.
The NY Times has pretty good guide on self-quarantine --which is what potentially exposed people need to do–and which is different from self-isolation–which is what infected individuals who are not sick enough to be admitted to ICU are instructed to do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/06/health/self-quarantine-coronavirus.html
Elderly adults living alone should be cautious about self quarantining and self isolating. There needs to be someone in the household who can make a phone call for an ambulance should they suddenly develop difficulty breathing.
Yes, so long as the quarantined individual has a bedroom and (if possible) bathroom that is not shared with the rest of the family. (see above)
Quarantined individuals must not do an food prep or cooking in a shared environment–even just for themselves. They can, however, clean & disinfect their own living space while quarantined.
Non-quarantined family members or roommates can leave the house to go to work or school.
Ideally every individual in a family needs to be isolated separately within the home, but realistically this isn’t possible with younger children. Practice good hygiene and household cleanliness. Don’t allow visitors in the house. If possible , arrange to have a friend or neighbor take care to your pet(s) at their home for the duration of the quarantine.
This is very bad.
Singapore is an international business hub. They are going to restrict UK, US. Aus? The computer says no.
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“who served him food in restaurants…” a[re the NY attorney with the virus
Yes, restaurants. Yes, he and members of the congregation did frequent restaurants. I know the exact ones they frequented, as well as the local stores in that area where they were and are customers. This businesses have been hit super hard now. North Avenue establishments and other shipping centers in the area are being avoided by many area residents, and a lot of clientale are in quarantine.
I’m not in the area right now, but if I were,I’d go to a different Starbucks from the one right near that synagogue and smack in the midst of the epicenter of this cluster
I agree fully. At this point in time, it not known how the lawyer was exposed. We can just draw that circle around him, enclosing those who were in direct contact with him, and his family. They got around. They did spend a lot of time with people in a tight community di tracking a lot of them was made easier.
If tha had been our family, the circle would not have been as easy to draw. We were all over the place. As I said earlier, it’s very possible other people have inferctrd a lot more folks but they have not been identified
A lot of posters here need to stop. Stop and take a deep breath. And READ THIS:
A lot of us posters are just fine and breathing just fine. Seriously.
Not talking about you or the other voices of reason here.
Can you find the Ph.D institution of the psychologist referred to in that article? It is odd that it isn’t anywhere obvious.
Google is your friend:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/linda-higley-spokane-wa/303785
I am a Husky but I respect a PhD Cougar. ?
The Guardian on Greek virologists discussing whether the sacraments are safe and the role „obscurantism“ may play in the spread of the. disease in religious communities.
„ As Greece steps up measures to contain an outbreak of coronavirus in the west of the country, there is growing concern over the stance of Greek Orthodox clerics, who have refused to postpone church services and suspend Christian rites.
Although the Holy Synod, the church’s ruling body, has endorsed many of the preventative measures, it has steadfastly rejected calls for practices such as holy communion to be halted. To the alarm of scientists, high-ranking bishops have invoked religious belief as a bulwark again Covid-19. In extraordinary exchanges on TV, clerics have argued that sacraments such as the holy eucharist should remain off-limits because they are God-given.
“Whoever believes that holy communion and the church are life has nothing to fear,” the Bishop of Patras, Chrysostomos, told Open News. “There has been no case, anywhere, of a virus or any other illness being transmitted through holy communion.”
Prominent virologists in the country have also come out in support of the powerful religious institution.
One well-known professor of infectious diseases said that while people aged 65 and over with underlying health issues would be better off avoiding church, she belonged to those who would still attend services, which in Greece are often held in crowded chapels.
“When you go to take holy communion, you don’t take it out of habit but because it tis he body and blood of Christ,” Eleni Giamarellou, professor of infectious diseases at the University of Athens, told local media. “Those who want to take the sacraments should not fear that germs could be transmitted through holy communion.”
The stance has raised fears of further transmissions in a country where cases of coronavirus rose from eight on Monday to 46 today.
In a statement, the Federation of Hospital Doctors’ Unions slammed what it described as obscurantist views, suggesting that some professionals were putting religious beliefs before the strictures of profession. “We will be on the front line of defending scientific truth against metaphysical [theories] and every other kind of obscurantism,” it said.“
My parents’ church will definitely not stop the practice of everyone drinking out of the same large communion cup. I am going to insist that my dad, with severe lung disease, not attend church even if he feels like going. He’s in hospice but I want him around as long as possible!
Some churches will have folks visit sick parishioners to administer communion and speak to them. Perhaps your dad could have that as a compromise. The Catholic Church here has finally stopped drinking out of the same communion cup now, due to COVID-19. Different churches are providing different guidance about the sign of peace. Some say no touching, just bow and/or wave, while others suggest elbow bump. They’re discontinuing holy water as well during covid-19.
From Dora Anne Mills (previously Director of Public Health in Maine, who has been posting frequently about the virus):
“Brief Update on COVID-19: As of early morning March 8th. Maine is still reporting no positive test results and no evidence of community spread.”
Ah, that explains my total lack of understanding. Even when we do watch TV it’s always taped and we fast forward commercials. I suppose I miss some cultural things like that, but it’s worth it not having to put up with commercials. Thanks for the info!
And on a good note, it doesn’t apply to me (phew). While we traveled a bit the past 5 weeks, not once did we stay in a Holiday Inn Express! 
Why am I reading stories of people that have traveled to hotspots , come back sick, call their doctors , and they still can you get tested because the doctors can’t get the test approved, WTH???
Maine isn’t testing. You need to test to get positive results.
I’m not feeling fearful of the virus and my family and I have the resources to hunker down at home for a month or more but I live in Middlesex County in Massachusetts, which is seeing cases related to the Biogen conference. Word has it at my parents’ retirement community that at least one of the patients was treated at the local community hospital, about a mile from my house. So I’m left with questions like…
If my parents in their late 80’s and with heart and lung issues have an emergency should we go to this hospital or take a longer trip to another? Will any other place be better? Is the rumor that this hospital treated one or more COVID-19 patients even true?
If they needed to self-isolate would it be better to tend to their needs myself or allow the staff of the center, who doubtless have more training but also care less than I do about my parents in particular, to deliver their meals and provide other services?
My college kid leaves for a long-awaited road trip out of the county this coming week. If things go sideways and a number of cases pop up either here or in the country they’re visiting what’s the chance there could be some sort of larger community quarantine and how quickly could it happen? What level of risk are we willing to take they couldn’t get home? One in a million? Ten thousand? A thousand? A hundred? And how can we determine the risk?
What are the chances same kid’s out of state college will shut down and how do we get their stuff home if it happens?
It’s because of questions like these that I’m finding this thread valuable. The situation is so fluid that it changes hour by hour. Thank you to the many posters providing solid information from reputable sources.