I do hope it means treatment protocols are improving.
Mild cases include those with pneumonia but who don’t need to go to the hospital to be intubed, etc. so, not what I think of when I hear the world ‘mild’. This is according to multiple sources I have read.
A lot of countries are reporting mild, critical, etc so I wouldn’t put too much weight on that part of the tracking on that site. The info is only as good as what they have to work with.
Also, I read somewhere yesterday that “mild” can still mean having pneumonia in its definition. All relative I guess.
Harvard moving to online classes. Students asked not to return form Spring break.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/3/11/harvard-coronavirus-classes-cancelled/
How do I determine if it is safe to go to college visits with my son? Things are changing rapidly. I don’t have a good sense of the situation locally.
@CollegeFrog1 no details yet but we have had 2 communications in 2 days because a CHOP doctor was diagnosed with Covid-19 and exposed child/parents in approx 6 school districts in our area. Closed were: Upper merion/Lower merion; Norristown; Cheltanham; North Penn, GA (Previously); some schools in Hatboro-Horsham; Neshaminy HS; Henderson HS in West Chester. Our school was spared somehow but now we just got an email this morning saying a parent was exposed to the provider (not the student and not a staff member). Our school remains open for now.
If we close I will provide details of how they plan to provide remote instruction.
Also good to note that a 0.6% mortality rate is 6x that of the flu. If the flu is really at 0.05% this year as previously reported on one of these threads, then it’s 12x. If we have 20K flu deaths so far this year (I think I heard roughly that number on the news), then it would be 120K to 240K if Covid-19 ends up doing the same once it’s fully out there. Is this what we want to deal with as we (all) age or would we rather take a couple of months now and try to get rid of the thing, then resume life?
I see nothing good coming from giving up. I’m hoping Italy’s shut down is successful and can repeat China’s path toward “winning.” China botched the beginning, no doubt (and I, like others, wonder why the first identifying doctor died), but they’ve done well once they were spurred into action - doing what they had to do to try to win.
This whole thing is new to everyone - every country, every doctor, every decision maker. Some are definitely handling it much better than others. It’s important to learn from those who have seen success and “days” matter with an exponential function.
Cleveland is no where near Columbus. That seems very odd for OSU to cancel.
I hope she will be fine. I’m sorry you have that stress for your family.
Check with the colleges. Many are not permitting visits.
According to an interview on German TV with virologist Prof. Christian Drosten, director of German Center for Infection Research, when one plots the curve of the number of cases vs. age, if the curve is U-shape (i.e. the old and the young are the most affected), the epidemic can be controlled through intervention. However, when the curve becomes W-shaped (i.e. working-age adults are also heavily infected), then it becomes a pandemic that’s almost impossible to control. Fortunately at the moment, the curve for the novel coronavirus is still U-shaped.
Hopefully, we don’t waste more time and do something about it.
That should read “A lot of countries AREN’T”
But when places like Sacramento County give up on containment…
Harvard posted this today:
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Information and Updates
Due to ongoing concerns posed by coronavirus (COVID-19), Harvard College students have been asked to move out of their Houses and First-Year Dorms by Sunday, March 15 in an effort to de-densify our community. All academic courses will continue to be held remotely. Please visit our FAQ’s for more information.
Last Updated: March 10, 8:57am
Also heard UCSD is going online after this week.
This shows we need leadership, leadership at the federal level. We can’t leave every county or municipality to make their own decisions on a highly infectious disease.
Ohio State approach is surprising to me given no instances on campus, in Franklin County or even in central Ohio. And not privy to their analysis. But school is on spring break this week so students have scattered across the country (though most in Ohio). Seems likely at this point that the virus finds its way throughout Ohio over the next several weeks. With spring break, kids have time to try out the remote access. Profs can start prep for online lectures as well. If you make the move while classes are in session, you have at most a weekend to prepare.
I suspect that more schools will take a similar approach. My daughter has spring break next week. Wouldn’t surprise me if they extend break by a week or two with online classes. As kids scatter over break, they come back increasing likelihood of exposure. Kids coming back to dorms for online classes create risks but presumably the goal is reducing them because you know you cannot eliminate them short of shutting down.
Okay, isolating patients in trailers in a park seems, odd, and has a “leper colony” feel to it. Also, when I saw this online, supposedly smart people were worried because the park is sort of near them–do they think Zombies are going to wander out? Also, the park is called, seriously, “Hard Labor Creek State Park.” You do you, Georgia.
Here is a helpful Vox article for those with OCD, anxiety or depression which could exacerbated by the situation:
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2020/3/10/21172206/coronavirus-covid-19-anxiety-depression-mental-health-ocd
@romanigypsyeyes , has your DH’s company sent out anything about extra sick days, or telecommuting? I know that many US companies are making plans/allowing for telecommuting. (Of course I realize that this is not possible with all jobs).
The OSU announcement is a surprise to me too, but it seems like a good, proactive idea. We (I live in Columbus) also cancelled spectators to the big international Arnold Sports event this past weekend. I don’t know if this is coming from Columbus, the state, or just coincidence, but so far we seem to be taking some strong early/proactive measures, as one of the later states to get its first case. (Will it change anything? Who knows).
@NYGovCuomo
"The need for #PaidSickLeave isn’t new — but it’s clearer than ever.
There were 8,459 cases of the flu in NYS last week. Many who had it likely went to work.
We need Paid Sick Leave now to protect workers and stop the spread of viruses like the flu and COVID-19."
Being proactive is one of the best thing that can be done.
I hope banning big gatherings is the next thing to come. It’s shocking it hasn’t been proposed or even suggested around here yet (Westchester, NY).