Coronavirus in the US

Here’s the other thing about closing schools: have any of you looked for childcare recently? Putting aside the prices that make me nauseous, around here at least, the waitlists are often long. For babies and toddlers even longer because you have to keep the child to adult ratio down.

I know moms who signed up for childcare in their second trimester in hopes they’d have space come the end of their maternity leave. It’s not unusual.

That’s not even bringing in the fact that millions of children get their food from schools. Among other matters.

Can’t keep up but a Patient of mine with a kid at MIT said graduation is canceled and her they don’t want the kids coming back to school from their breaks so she might have to go there and move her out. They will do classes online. She has another child at Rose Hulman and hoping she can stay out

Just one of the many issues that will arise if we close K-8 schools is that our health care providers and support personnel with kids of this age may not be able to go to work…because they will have to stay home to take care of the kids. Not all have childcare options or family/friends willing to help out.

So the teachers and staff are expendable? Why don’t we see how other countries are handling the child care issue - they have all shut the schools.

This does not sound like coronavirus; congestion would be atypical. It sounds more like the flu. I agree with you. Just staying home and taking care of herself sounds like the best plan. If she’s got the flu, she has it, and the one less day of flu from Tamiflu doesn’t seem worth the 160 mile round trip to get tested. Possibly she could get a Tamiflu prescription over the phone.

“Looking for a little advice, kind of related to coronavirus in terms of whether it is wise to go to a minute clinic.”

I would have her go to urgent care and see if it’s the flu (which it probably is). I don’t know what protocols are being followed at the airports, but if she is visibly symptomatic (which it sounds like she is), they may not let her get on a plane on Thursday.

Our BCBS does have telemedicine/telehealth, if that’s something she may wish to do. Most CVS stores in the state have a minute clinic that can do the swab for a flu test and prescribe Tamiflu or similar. She can search online for nearest CVS and call to see if they have a minute clinic and the hours, plus if they will do flu swab and prescribe tamiflu.

Even if one does telemedicine, don’t know how you can get flu test. It does sound like regular flu or mono to me.

Well aware, thanks. I’m an attorney. I was just trying to figure out (as an interested CA resident) if there was evidence the California state authorities were working with federal authorities on this (and specifically the Sacramento situation) because the post was responding to another which referenced the lack of federal leadership.

Ok, here’s what I don’t get about the Sacramento county decision – why do away with 14 day self-quarantining for people exposed to COVID-19? I get that at some point it’s no longer a good use of scarce public health resources to try to do contact tracing for every known COVID-19 positive person (whether Sacramento has actually reached a stage where that in fact no longer makes sense is a separate question, that I’ll leave alone for the purposes of this post).

But why wouldn’t the health authorities still advise that people voluntarily self-quarantine if they know they’ve been in contact with someone who has tested positive? The Sacramento Bee story has this quote from the county: “With the shift from containment to mitigation, it is no longer necessary for someone who has been in contact with someone with COVID-19 to quarantine for 14 days” and the article goes on to state that “Effective immediately, people in Sacramento County should not quarantine themselves if they’ve been exposed to the COVID-19. Instead, they should go into isolation only if they begin to show symptoms of the respiratory virus, the county’s health department says.”

Affirmatively telling people that they should NOT self-quarantine just seems to run contrary to every other piece of medical advice out there. So if I were to go to work, and someone coughs directly in my face (eew) and I find out the next day that person tested positive, Sacramento is telling me “nope, don’t worry about anything, you should continue to go about your regular business, at least until you start to cough or have a fever yourself” I don’t get that at all.

We all have to exercise personal responsibility. Think about others, particularly the most vulnerable. Annoyances, delays, inconveniences are nothing compared to protecting others from this virus.

@TatinG true to an extent. But children not eating, parents not being able to pay bills because of no PTO, etc are not minor inconveniences.

Precisely because some people are not in a position to practice social distancing, those of us who are should do it, even if it’s inconvenient, even if it costs us money, even if we don’t like it.


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That is just not going to be a thing. Sacramento is probably just ahead of the curve. The real thing to know is there is no “they” looking after you, no big govt is handling this, no small govt. It will be what it will be. When any of us run out of supplies, we will go to the store, when any of us think we are sick, we are going to the dr. It is all here in this thread. People continuing their plans, their flight, their holidays. I don’t think we are capable of containment.

That issue and the related issue of loss of people able to provide essential or highly desired services (like child care, or even keeping the grocery store stocked) when they are self-quarantined may make aggressive quarantine recommendations difficult to follow or enforce without causing major hardship on a lot of people. Note that economic hardship can have health consequences, if one is not able to afford food or needed medical care (for anything, not just COVID-19).

Apparently Coachella and Stagecoach festivals will be postponed until October - no official announcement until the organizers can reach out to performers to see if rescheduling will be possible. With more cases in the area, it was a certain outcome.

For those interested, here is the San Diego County coronvirus website: https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/community_epidemiology/dc/2019-nCoV/status.html… A total of 87 patients have been tested with one presumptive positive - wish I knew where in the county the one case is - it’s a big county!

Northshore School District is trying to mitigate the challenges of having moved to remote learning. The cooks and bus drivers are assembling school lunches (and I think breakfast packets) and delivering them to local schools for pickup (and this keeps hourly employees working and paid). If a family can’t pick up the meals, they are delivered. The district has also opened up some school spaces for the local YMCA childcare to operate full time. We have a local FB group devoted to helping people find other childcare solutions (neighbor co-ops, etc.). It’s not all working perfectly, but our superintendent is amazing, and she and the rest of the staff are working hard to provide as much support as possible.

Another reason for continued calm and info sharing.

“The state-run Islamic Republic News Agency, or IRNA, reported Tuesday that 44 people had died from alcohol poisoning in the country after they "drank bootleg alcohol over rumors that it would be effective in treating coronavirus.” But the semi-independent Mehr News Agency reported a lower figure – at least 27 people dying in Iran from alcohol poisoning amid the coronavirus scare”

So unnecessary.

While Sacramento is lifting the quarantine, NY is sending the National Guard to New Rochelle NY!

Virginia’s Festival of the Book has been cancelled.

The LA Times Festival of Books which had been scheduled for early April is now postponed until October.