Coronavirus in the US

The assisted living facility may bar visitors…today it’s announced that is the advice for long term care facilities in Maryland. Maybe go while you can. But are you risking being a source of germs… I am sorry, very hard.

@NJSue : hugs to you. :frowning:

@1benice: sounds like what France set up 3 weeks ago or so. Right now they’re preparing for Level 3. The US is supposed to be 3 days behind France but who knows?

Yes I’m afraid that if I do go out there they will slam the door in my face anyway.

@MaineLonghorn. No drinking from the cup. Can your father bring his own cup and then can they bless that? Sorry not my religion and I really don’t know. Many faiths I know are making exceptions to the rules to get through this.

I believe CT also declared a state of emergency. Apparently it enables them to do things they can’t do without that declaration. Right now there are four confirmed cases…only two reside in the state.

Guess better safe than sorry.

Smith College joins those whose are finishing the semester remotely.
https://www.smith.edu/president-kathleen-mccartney/letters/2019-20/announcement-march-10-2020
…You may be wondering why we are making this decision now, given that there are no known cases on our campus and few cases in Massachusetts. We believe that spring recess travel presents a potential threat to Smith. Because so many members of our community are planning to leave, their return, from many places, could present a significantly increased risk of exposure to the virus…

@NJSue - if it were me, I’d cancel the visit. Air travel itself increases the risk you’ll have brought something unwelcome with you - and right now, that could even be flu, which is still going strong.

Can you mail or have Amazon deliver your father things like toothpaste? Similarly with the payments, since the facility doesn’t want you to visit it’s in their best interest to work with you via phone to set this up, right?

Wait, what? You’re suggesting that your daughter who is ill with the flu get on a plane and fly? So she can infect someone who infects someone who infects an elderly person and sends them to the hospital with flu when the hospitals are going to be filled up with coronavirus patients? I urge you to rethink this plan, for the sake of everyone else. The last thing we need is to spread the flu in the middle of a coronavirus pandemic.

re my post #5018 about Boston Flower Show I was wrong – the statement “The threat here in Boston is extremely low.” is still on the website, in pale font just above of their bulleted list of precautions. https://bostonflowershow.com/ Apologies for the error. My mouth is hanging open.

Kudos to Governor Cuomo. I’m not always a fan, but I appreciate both his leadership and decisiveness in tackling the New Rochelle outbreak. Although it might incur short term pain, I think the markets would also be encouraged by aggressive early action to confront spread of the virus vs reactionary measures.

@TS0104 If your daughter can get the Tamiflu in her in a timely manner, she should feel quite improved and able to get her work done. It was amazing for my daughter.

No, it has to be one cup. No exceptions. But my Dad’s mother was a germaphobe and I noticed that Dad sits in the pew that gets served first, so he drinks out of the cup before anyone else. I don’t think that’s by accident, ha.

@“Cardinal Fang” good point. I guess in all the coronavirus stuff, I haven’t thought about how contagious she would be on the plane with the flu…IF she has the flu. Was hoping to get a diagnosis and possible treatment today, but after two hours trying to figure out with my health insurance, turns out we do not have virtual visits after all.

My daughter works for Google in Cambridge, Mass and they just told their employees that they must work from home effective immediately.

from https://www.lohud.com/story/news/2020/03/10/coronavirus-cuomo-orders-new-rochelle-containment-area/5011068002/

I just had the flu and took Tamiflu last week. I had thought it cut down on the infectious period but she said I would feel better but still be contagious after a few days on it. This link sounds like Tamiflu might but also might not cut down on the time period where one is contagious. The 5-7 days after symptoms and 24 hours without a fever when not on mediation is in a lot of publications.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/how-long-flu-contagious

Reporting from France (albeit an area without cases AFAIK):
‘cruise refugees’ and ‘wuhan refugees’ were indeed housed in a summer camp for 2 weeks. Local residents protested but in the end it went okay. That was in January I think. They’ve now moved to home quarantine - which they call Quatorzaine (fourteenine??) And this being France there’s a heated debate about the new word.
Now they’ve moved to special wings in hospitals, preparing.
They’ve been contact tracing - one person tested positive, 40+ tests, they know exactly where it’s from (religious meeting in another region)- that’s it for the region, but they have a whole wing set up anyway.
There are still PSA’s every hour or so on TV and radio. Posters in public places. Schools aren’t closed as of now, except in specific clusters. Universities and colleges won’t close - because young adults are supposedly responsible enough to follow the “safety and health directions” so if they’re not sick they can continue attending as long as they respect the “safety directions”. Some “essential workers” and “essential industries” are on weekly shifts - one week telecommuting, one week at work, in order to ensure things keep going with as little risk as possible. Gatherings of 1,000 and more have been banned. Music and book festivals have been suspended as well as school trips abroad (very common in March and April). Here, no stampede in stores BTW. I went in today to buy chocolate mousse, avocado, and gnocchi, and it looked 100% as usual.

It looks much scarier in the US. Disorganized. Unclear.
I was reading an article about a waitress who works 12-hour days and still is on the verge of eviction. Her husband has a respiratory illness. She clearly couldn’t “not go to work”. If business goes down at her Waffle House she would not make enough and be evicted; her family would be a even greater risk. Her yearly income is apparently almost half the people in North Carolina.

Their president is ~40. Nevertheless they explained what measures had been taken to ensure the president isn’t infected. A few days ago, he was visiting a hospice. Nowadays he (and the entire government) conduct meetings through secure videoconferencing. 4 representatives or senators have been infected, as well as the Minister for Culture.

Real question: all 3 major presidential contenders are in their 70s and thus all three are at risk. What have their Entourage done so far? How do we know they’re not sick?
What happens if President Trump gets sick? (NOT snark, NOT political - real institutional question: what happens when the president catches a disease we don’t have a cure for and which he’s got an 8% probability of dying from?)

Cornell just announced that students to remain home and study on line after its spring break, the week of 3/30 - 4/3.

@milee30 Amazon is a good idea. I’ve sent my Dad stuff that way before. He has vision problems among other issues, and paperwork is a problem for him. He doesn’t trust people to help him except us and he doesn’t want to relinquish control over his affairs. If the facility wants to get their money, yes, they will have to work out something with me remotely .

I heard on radio that Sanders has cancelled his rally in Cleveland tonight. When major events are being suspended it sends the wrong message to continue having large groups together.