I like him and I agree he is being a straight shooter most of the time - he seems to be delivering the truth more as things unfold. I value transparency and factual info.
The community knows what’s best for their community.
In upstate New York or in rural areas they may have very few cases and need their kids in school to get meals and because of parents needing to work.
Shaking hands isn’t smart and they should stop. Totally agree.
The info provided was helpful to the extent that people from industry and medicine are working together. I was really focused on the content and not the peripheral stuff. But it’s a good point.
Criticizing (or complimenting) our government’s handling of a crisis isn’t partisan. It’s not about party, it is about leadership and
This is what our moderators have stated. Criticizing a government’s handling of a crisis isn’t partisan. CDC isn’t partisan. If leadership has missteps, its worthy of discussion. @privatebanker this isn’t the first time you’ve gone down the path you are currently on. One TOS rule, this is not a debate society.
I thought the presentation board was like a middle school project. So, basically, if you don’t have symptoms, you’re not getting a test. Just say that. I don’t need a graphic for it.
I’m waiting to see details on how the paid sick leave is funded. If it’s not funded by the government, then small businesses absolutely will “be hurt.” Those beloved small coffee shops, restaurants, craft breweries, corner stores, bakeries, ice cream shops, etc. are all seeing huge decreases in business right now. How many have the capital to even do this at this point?
If paid sick leave is something that we decide is a good thing for public policy, then let the public pay for it instead of putting an unfunded mandate on businesses that are already hurting.
I think one thing that sticks out to me is when certain posters seem to take many opportunities to pinpoint where they think a certain politician is not doing anything right.
Things like that get old and don’t really inform anyone about the issue (in this thread), Coronavirus.
I think that’s where the political talk TOS may come in?
Ok. I don’t want to belabor this point and let it go. We all have our opinions.
However where is the credible news source with direct quote that the president specifically called the “virus itself a hoax”.
That’s all I’m talking about. Not sure how that fits the definition above and how is it all relevant to today’s updates or progress on this important battle.
The government response to anything is subject to mistakes , we are human beings. However, there seems to be an incredible paucity if any positive points to offset the constant barrage of negative opinion of most decisions. The balance seems off.
Some of the moves have been smart.
But carry on. This majority of info is super helpful
Oh, Creekland you sound like an amazing teacher… for some reason I got misty eyed reading your post… probably because I remember what an impact a good teacher can make on your outlook, feelings, ideas…
First, just because one has no symptoms does not mean they don’t have the virus – they could have had close contact with someone who has the virus. Further, it’s been established that the virus can be transmitted by persons with no symptoms. Second, it seemed like the steps on the second part of the diagram were just unnecessary fluff. People understand that if they get tested, their samples will be sent to a lab and then results will come back from the lab. What is difficult to understand, right now, is why are people not getting tested in the first place when their doctors recommend it? If there is a hurdle that a person needs to have symptoms first, that may present an unnecessary obstacle to identifying people who truly have the virus. There have been too many obstacles so far to getting people tested in this country, imo.
Also, I’ve just read that this purported program is not even something ready to launch. So it seems like it’s just more of the same wasting of time we’ve seen thus far.
The original plan proposed by the Treasury was a tax credit equal to two weeks of payroll. Of course, what finally comes out at the end of the sausage machine remains to be seen.
Illinois shutting schools.
Re; Med students helping out.
The answer is a big NO. And it has nothing to do with malpractice. Medical students are actually being withdrawn from clinical rotation sites where they may be exposed to coronavirus.
Partly the reason is practical. Med students are untrained–think of them as big, eager, useless puppies who want to help but just don’t know how. They just get in other people’s ways and are likely to make a big mess that someone else has to clean up. Med students actually slow down doctors who are trying to treat patients, and by a lot.
(Rule #11 from the House of God states: Show me a BMS (Best Medical Student) who only triples my work and I will kiss his feet.)
It’s also unethical. Med schools do not want to put students into situations where their utility is low and their risk of contracting a potentially deadly illness is high.
So our schools closed and now all the libraries closed. Local kids hang out there after school. I hope parents don’t just let their older kids turn feral. A local market is also a hangout. The point is to isolate.
Fair enough. I was just asking you because you made the long post about it previously, so I thought you might be “in the know” when I felt like I was “in the dark”, lol.
My lad (3rd year) has already had to help out beyond what is normal, though that was due to the flu taking out a bunch of health care workers, not this virus. Per school policy they are not allowed to do anything with Covid-19 cases. Now students are getting to do less hands on because they are having to ration various things, saving them for the expected onslaught should things get bad (and they’re expecting them to get worse). They are still doing some things, but have to be super active/needed vs just shadowing as often happens.
He’s had a planned away rotation cancelled and was concerned that it would affect his application for residency this fall. I reminded him that he wasn’t the only one in this boat. It’s affecting everyone. Shortly afterward the school also said “rules” (expectations?) will adjust as needed and don’t worry. His school has been updating the rule/expectation changes quite often recently.
@amsunshine The person who discussed the program and Google was the doctor discussed earlier. She must be lying as well. The president didn’t claim anything.
Its perfectly fine to pinpoint acts or statements of politicians in regard to Coronavirus. Just because certain politicians may be doing or saying things that one may deem not right, doesn’t mean that a corresponding “balanced” statement needs to be posted. As long as its fact and not opinion. Fact: Donald Trump said last Friday that “Anybody that needs a test gets a test; they’re there, they have the tests, and the tests are beautiful,” and that is not true. It wasn’t true last week and its not true today.
In my opinion, testing is one of the most important things we can be doing to get ourselves out of this disaster. So, I’d like the real, honest truth about it.
My friend, a nurse, told me today that in Boston - where she is, she had a Covid suspect patient that could not get tested. Patient was about to go into OR to get emergency surgery for another issue - but there are still not enough tests in every hospital to get her tested. My friend was exposed to the patient. Can/should she be tested? The patient hasn’t been tested. Now what?
Also, its outside of TOS to debate the same issue back and forth.
I see the same problem… teens in cars parked by the green belt - vaping. Well, at least no one will be TPIng my house for a while… while the parents keep the precious commodity locked up.
In other news-- you know the apocalypse is coming because Netflix just announce they are shutting down production of all shows filming in the US and Canada for the next 3 weeks.
Season three of Stranger Things is going to be indefinitely delayed.