I am curious about how cases are actually being counted in the US in the absence of adequate testing. And there are plenty of people who come down with the flu (my husband last week and my son-in-law the previous week) and are told not to come in. In DH’s case, it likely was the flu, but we can’t really be 100% sure.
My mother’s retirement community in West Seattle officially has a case, with several presumed others. You’d think they would want to test everyone there, since they all eat in the same dining room and socialize in the same spaces.
I do get why you wouldn’t want someone with respiratory symptoms waltzing into their PCP’s office, but it will result in a serious under count of cases. That’s bad not only because we won’t have an accurate mortality rate, but because people who have had it won’t know that they are now likely immune. We’ll also have gaps in understanding the demographics of this disease (who gets a mild case, whose is more severe but doesn’t require treatment, whose symptoms are atypical, etc).
@privatebanker - your post was clear. Some felt that the initial exception given to England and Ireland had … well you know.
And this is separate from the federal relief offered to the small businesses. Was referring to larger companies making provisions for their employees. Many larger companies are being quite benevolent to their employees.
As an aside, DH works for an international company headquartered in the US. They were in a meeting Thursday and yesterday to finalize provisions for the employees worldwide. The International employees had far greater rights/benefits than the US ones (e.g. if access to the internet was deemed essential for the work/work from home, the company had to pay for it). The US employees had no such rights/benefits (nor the 6 weeks of vacation!).
Lets move on before these discussions lead to another warning from the PDB.
Hmmm. What would be the argument for why it’s unconstitutional? I can’t think of one.
Privileges and Immunities Clause. A blanket ban on New Rochelle residents (who are US citizens), even those with no symptoms or known exposure is over broad. The order is also unenforceable- which the judge basically admitted.
Currently, if a patient who is tested negative twice consecutively, at least 24 hours apart, is deemed to have recovered. This was the standard China used previously also. However, they’ve since found this standard to be inadequate, and started to require three consecutive tests to determine if a patient had recovered.
Agh So sorry… Posted above in the wrong thread… Agh… Well maybe it will help someone.
2 negative tests and loss of symptoms. But that doesn’t mean you “can’t” get it again. No one knows at this point how much immunity you actually build up with this virus. I have heard a wide range on that.
The K-12 schools in our state are closed now and the buildings due to re-open in early April. Our districts doesn’t mention virtual instructions at all.
Meanwhile, the hospitalizations in US are expected to peak in May.
How those two go together? Now I am really concerned …
I think this is the 4th case in Dutchess County, NY. It was announced today. A commuter student at Marist College (also Dutchess County) was diagnosed yesterday.
Also I really wish people wouldn’t encourage others to try circumventing travel restrictions of potentially infected people by recommending they transit through other countries.
The traveler at issue was a US citizen who could return to the US for self quarantine but was unsure of a means to do so given flight cancellations. The person’s right to return to the US is unquestioned, the rest is logistical (method, quarantine, etc).
American citizens aren’t restricted in their travel home, either directly or indirectly. I haven’t seen anyone on this thread encouraging anything that isn’t allowed by the government. Our borders aren’t closed.
Based on what I’ve read, it certainly isn’t consistent from place to place. Haven’t seen any US protocols other than 2 negative tests. I have read that some countries are doing 3. Some countries, specifically China and South Korea, are requiring a 2 week quarantine after proving negative/recovered. In China, at least in Wuhan, they’ve been using specific recovery facilities. In South Korea, there was reference to a mandatory 2 week self-quarantine. These additional measures were put in place because there were some cases, though rare, of some “recovered” patients testing positive or getting sick again.
I’d be curious to hear what the US standard is but since everything seems localized rather than centralized, that could vary from state to state like everything else.