Coronavirus in the US

Amazon says it is out of stock of household items and deliveries are delayed due to coronavirus demand

Amazon warned it’s experiencing Prime delivery days and running out of stock of popular household items amid the coronavirus outbreak.

The issues are a result of a “dramatic increase in the rate that people are shopping online,” Amazon said in a blog post that was updated on Saturday. Some popular brands and items in the “household staples” categories were out of stock, while Amazon said some of its “delivery promises are longer than usual.”

“In the short term this is having an impact on how we serve our customers,” Amazon said in the blog post. “We are working around the clock with our selling partners to ensure availability on all of our products, and bring on additional capacity to deliver all of your orders.”

Amazon added a notice to the top of its marketplace this weekend that reads: “Inventory and delivery may be temporarily unavailable due to increased demand. Confirm availability at checkout.” (CNBC)

[ I did get a delivery yesterday, speedy quick, but definitely willing to cut them slack on the normal 2 day window.

Regarding former House Speaker Gingrich’s comments from Italy: the guy is no dummy, especially as to the catalysts of historic events.

Consumer companies like Clorox are calling on White House to defend US against supply chain disruptions

The lobbying group representing some of America’s largest consumer companies sent a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer urging them to fight global export restrictions on any product used to treat or prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

Consumer Brands Association, which represents companies including Lysol-owner Reckitt Benckiser and Clorox, wants Pompeo and Lightizer to determine which products are facing a possible export ban, and what the impact of that ban may be. They also want the leaders to “take appropriate action” should they determine that any export restriction is in violation of a trade agreement.

They want them to considering lifting tariffs that may be adding an extra burden to the supply chain. (CNBC)

NYPD commissioner to officers — ‘We will, without a doubt suffer’

NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea sent a 4-page memo to the force’s 36,000 officers and 19,000 civilian workers, telling them to brace for sickness and staggered schedules.

“We will, without a doubt suffer,” Shea said in the memo obtained by NBC News, noting many members of the force “may become ill.”

Shea also tried to reassure NYPD workers and officers, saying: “We will stand with you.” The memo was sent a day after a school safety officer in Queens, NY tested positive for coronavirus. (CNBC)

“Federal Reserve cuts rates to zero and launches massive $700 billion quantitative easing program” Source: CNBC.

What happens to homeless kids during summer? What happens with free lunches in summer? …

I do think Cuomo is doing good job but - open pubs, bars, … and schools don’t sit well with me at all.

He did mention problem with free lunches. That it would be great if they could increase the amount of food stamps the family gets instead, but they cannot because fed government regulations (I hope I got that right).

There must be a way to mitigate this without having all the kids in schools. If needed, make school arrangements for some of them, but there are plenty of kids that would be better off at home. Even decreasing the number of exposed kids would help.

DeWine didn’t give an end date. Restaurants can still offer carryout. Last night I drove though my small town and was surprised to see the restaurant parking lots full. Imo, this is a good move by our Governor.

@rosered55 in everyday language and practical terms…what does this mean for the average American?

According to reporter on MSNBC: reassure markets; let businesses know that they can borrow money. If the former works, it probably will help people’s investments (e.g., retirement plans); if the latter works, struggling businesses can borrow money to try to keep going for a few months.

Gov Cuomo announced Westchester, Nassau, Suffolk & NYC schools will close w/ childcare for essential workers & food programs

NYC must have a plan for childcare &food in place within the next 24 hours

Schools will close in NYC early this week; Nassau/SUFFOLK/Westchester tomorrow.

Source: Melissa DeRosa, Cuomo’s secretary, Twitter.

People in the know on this thread: When do you think tests will become widely available?

California governor Gavin Newsom announces that the state’s bars, nightclubs, breweries and wineries be closed.

Source: Arash Markazi, LA Times sports columnist, Twitter.

On February 29th H and I left on a long planned (and fully paid/non-refundable) trip to French Polynesia. The trip involved staying in hotels and a cruise. I had severe hesitation and anxiety about the rapidly changing virus situation and would have been willing to stay home and take the loss. H, and the other couple with whom we were traveling, were rather unconcerned. FP had no reported cases of COVID-19. They had implemented very early travel restrictions from China et.al. They were requiring ‘health certificates’ for anyone who had visited or transited thru any of the affected countries since January 1,2020.

So off we went.

First stop SFO. NO controls, no checking, no questions. UA did grill us about previous travel and reiterated the need for a ‘medical certificate’ if we were at all part of the group which was required to present one as per the FP government.

The first real shocker was the ladies restroom in the international terminal. Seven of the nine sinks were out of soap. Add to this the water flow restriction devices which have been mandatory in CA for seemingly forever, (the amount of water is a trickle that would make a urologist cringe and prescribe Flomax) empty paper towel dispensers and the dirty toilets and we had the makings of a perfect COVID-19 distribution system. I brought the problem to the attention of an SFO employee and was told ‘oh, we have some issues with that particular janitoress’. WOW.

On the flight the medical certificate / hot spot country restrictions were announced at least 4 more times. At one point we were blatantly told, if you don’t have this you WILL be returning on this air craft tonight.

Off we went. Thermal scanners and questions at the Tahiti airport. Lots of tourists from everywhere at the hotel. Light hearted atmosphere.

With increasing trepidation, I boarded the ship on March 5th. We were temperature scanned at initial embarkation and each time we returned from a shore visit. All went well until a few days later when the captain announced they had gone to a level two red sanitation protocol. This was purely precautionary. We were told explicitly that there were no respiratory or other virus issues with crew or passengers. In the meantime, FP issued a ruling that all vessels needed to notify them 48 hours in advance of disembarkation if there were any symptomatic individuals on board. FP also went thru a brief and very confusing few days of requiring everyone to provide this rather mysterious ‘health certificate’. One couple who had flown in from Australia was routed by their gate agent to an airport medical office. There they paid $150/pp for the Dr. to take their temperatures, and tell them bluntly that he was certainly not able to verify their health status and it was all a great way to take in extra $$. FP backed off on the requirement within a few days.

Back to the level 2 red sanitation process. Things changed. Certain public areas like the library, laundry rooms, game room and small meeting rooms were closed. All table clothes were gone as were the nicely preset tables. Instead, after each use each table was sterilized with a fluid which had to air dry for several minutes. Although this cruise line never had the grab and go buffet approach, instead having servers handle plates and all food, they increased this level also. Gone were all the salt and pepper shakers. You were no longer able to even touch a serving tong or get your own coffee. Public area restrooms had entry doors propped open, so you didn’t need to touch them. The normal face sized cotton towels available for hand drying were replaced with paper towels. Luckily, those stupid, germ spreading, hand blow driers were removed several years ago (we need to stop the use of these NOW). Even before the increased sanitization level, elevator buttons had been covered with a large and rather thick piece of plastic, making wipe down easier and more thorough. The crew was working overtime, hand railings, wall panels, bar stools, counters etc. were disinfected 2-3 times a day. Cruise ships exchange entertainers at ports. This stopped. Only the onboard entertainment staff remained.

Three days before scheduled end of the cruise, the Captain announced FP had recalled all cruise ships in the territory back to the main port in Papeete. We were informed we could use the ship as our hotel until the official end of the cruise and then continue with our already established travel plans. We had planned to stay an extra few days at a local hotel. Upon the captains announcement there was contained pandemonium as guests tried to figure out what, if any changes, they needed or wanted to make. With the help of our US based D we were able to book a flight out of FP that evening. It was clearly time to get home ASAP.

Arrived at SFO, we have global entry. No scanning, questioning, or any noticeable type of screening. We did arrive at the same time as a flight from New Delhi. That flight had at least 30 (not kidding, H took a movie) wheelchair passengers with masks. These passengers were lined up two by two in a long line. These were frail looking older individuals. I walked away with the impression that families are getting vulnerable individuals out of a country with very questionable healthcare and bringing them to the US. So, if we are worried that our own system will be over taxed IMO, this needs to stop NOW.

H and I are home. I am grateful to be back. Even though there is no requirement or even suggestion of isolating oneself when returning from FP, we will be doing so for 14 days. Limited trips to the supermarket are about the extent of our new ‘travel plans’.

On another note…A very good friend of mine was visiting her D in Paris. She got on a flight out the moment she got wind of the European travel ban. In spite of the fact that France is a hot spot, SFO did no screening. She (and I) are on the STEP travel notifications system, she did not receive any communication telling her to self-quarantine. She came across that by checking the CDC site directly. She is currently running a fever of 100.1 and has a call into Kaiser.

RIght. In other words, treating it seriously and not like a Dem attempt to demonize the administration. Which is something we heard not that long ago. And this is a FACT. It is not a political opinion.

@dietz199 , thank you for this comprehensive report. I’m glad you and your spouse made it back to the U.S. safe and sound.

@mathKids I live in Denver. To get out of the house I went downtown… where bars and pubs are filled with people - and their dogs. Where Whole Foods still has a fully stocked (and patronized) salad bar!

WTH?

What good is having people work from home if they’re just going to hang out in crowded bars and pubs and eating food that’s sitting out in the open?

The report by @dietz199 shows one thing clearly.

While the powers to be say they had plans, the key element was they had no implementation plan for carrying out their directives. It’s impossible to do the right thing by saying you are…and having no implementation plan to carry out what you are saying you will do.

@TatinG the airlines can’t hold people on planes for over a certain amount of time. They are required to let the people off the planes.

On the abc Sunday show he said, “perhaps” affect “the duration”; that does not sound too definitive to me.

(about 3:20)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkH2rLIeU7A

Some people really need to be saved from themselves.

There must be some sort of loophole…the friends with whom we traveled took a different flight. They boarded - announcement of mechanical problem. Fixed - left gate - no not fixed - returned to gate. They were technically allowed to ‘get of the airplane’. What this amounted too was the door was open, the gangway attached and they were allowed to walk to the end of the gangway and back. They WERE NOT allowed to re-enter the terminal. So I guess the ‘letting passengers off’ requirement can be met by letting them walk to the end of the gangway and back.

All in all they had a 5 hour delay.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/us/national-state-emergency.html

Interesting article stating that in public health crises, states and localities have more power over quarantines and closures than the federal government.

I was wondering by what power governors could order otherwise lawful restaurants and other private businesses to close.