Agree. Early testing would have found these people and brought awareness to our people.
"Some context: Trump was initially very complimentary of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s handling of the outbreak, but in recent days he has taken to calling COVID-19 the “Chinese virus.”
Why the change now? We could use their help now and if he talks a bad game about them now, he will alienate when we need them. Why so nice in the beginning? Just to downplay here, I guess.
Why now? The Chinese are calling the virus American virus basically by claiming it was planted by American military. Trump is countering it by calling it Chinese virus. I have no love for Trump but I think people are making too much of this.
Let’s not spread false information. The lady, by all accounts, didn’t know she was sick. It was an internal business meeting or training session. She didn’t have any symptom or took any drug to cover up her symptoms. She only felt sick on her flight back to Shanghai. After she was tested and confirmed positive for coronavirus, she immediately informed her colleagues in Germany.
France is closing off access to beaches on the Mediterranean coast and in Brittany.
The government has also banned cycling outside and asked people to keep walks and runs as short as possible “a few minutes to stretch the legs” and absolutely no longer than 1-2km in total.
The information, which is vague, has caused widespread confusion as to how far people can go for a walk or run and for how long. Officials have been asked but can shed no light on this.
“Use common sense and responsibility,” tweeted the sports ministry. “The goal is not to bore you but to stem the epidemic so that we can soon all enjoy our favourite sports again.”
India’s PM calls on the nation to self-isolate
From Sunday, people in India have been asked to observe a self-curfew as part of a trial run to test social isolation to curb the spread of the coronavirus.
In an address to the nation today, the prime minister, Narendra Modi, called for a “janata curfew” – a curfew imposed by the people on themselves – to protect the country from the outbreak. The News 18 live blog quoted him as saying:
Restraint is compulsory to protect ourselves and remain healthy. I request that for the coming weeks people should go out of their homes only if essential.
This Sunday, March 22, from 7 am to 9 pm, all countrymen have to follow the ‘janata curfew’. In this period no one should come out of their homes or in their society or building.
If possible, please call at least 10 people every day and tell them about the ‘Janata Curfew’ as well as the measures to prevent coronavirus.
The Indian government says there have been 173 infections and four deaths from the virus.
About 120,000 film industry workers have already lost their jobs in Hollywood as a result of the coronavirus shutdown, according to the US entertainment industry union IATSE (International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees).
The estimate emerged in a newsletter sent out by the ICG (International Cinematographers Guild) to its members, which said: “The IATSE reports that the pandemic shutdown has resulted in the loss of 120,000 jobs held by its 150,000 members. It is critical that our industry be included in pending federal relief package.”
The film and TV industry worldwide has experienced a near-total cessation of activity, with thousands of largely freelance crew laid off at short notice with little or no financial compensation. Scores of productions, ranging from studio shoots such as the Avatar sequels and Fantastic Beasts 3 to independent films such as Paul Schrader’s The Card Counter, have been halted.
[ hardest hit is the restaurant/food industry imo. But many, many are being hurt which is why some kind of temporary universal basic income would be good. ]
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I also think we have to continue moving forward…there are important decisions still to be made.
While I am 100% on board with flattening the curve in the short term (a month or two or three), for me things become less clear after that.
Basically thinking what price are we willing to ‘pay’ as a society for this? This virus is not going away…from here on out it will circulate among mankind forever. We don’t know what the mortality rate is yet, and that is important information to know obviously.
Right now I don’t think it’s reasonable to think that we would do social distance or even shelter in place until a vaccine is approved (assuming that takes a year minimum)…if that happens it’s easy to see the potential for us experiencing a depression, not just a recession (which technically has already started).
Just trying to continually think about things going forward…and all the really important decisions still to be made. For me personally I don’t want to spend time ruminating on why flights to/from certain countries weren’t stopped on X date.
I agree we need to find out if it works before we start giving it to people prophylatically (I read somewhere where there was some evidence for this in cell culture, but that’s really preliminary.) However, it’s really not that hard to make, chemically speaking. I’m guessing that supplies wouldn’t be a problem.
I finally get to use my chemistry vocabulary! It’s true that the two are very similar, chemically, but they’re technically quinolines, not quinolones. Antibacterials like cipro are quinolones (with an “o”).
Sorry for being pedantic.
Not true. She admitted she was sick later.
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I thought it was to buy some time to manage the situation. After 2-3 weeks, we will probably know who has the virus. Assuming all asymptomatic person now will show symptoms by then.
Then the minute we all go outside and back to work/school, more people will become infected and things will spike again…the virus will always be circulating. We can’t stop if from circulating. This is why Wuhan citizens haven’t been released from quarantine yet (AFAIK).
Fully agree. I listened to Cuomo’s press conference. He pointed out repeatedly that this is a federal government job, that it’s up to them to take care of this including making decisions how to divide the ventilators among the states . That there are cannot be 50 state governors fighting and bidding for the very same equipment.
Both were originally developed for use against malaria (but have other uses as well), but hydroxychloroquine (a derivative of chloroquine) is less toxic to humans than chloroquine.
And you think China will help? They will help only as much as to make themselves look good. No real help. Look around the world. China has been going around “helping” countries in need by lending money at a high interest and subordinating them using the loan as a noose. The US does that, too, to some degree, buy influence but China’s deal is far more binding.
Exactly. And this is the reason that schools will remain closed. (just in case a few parents were still clinging to the idea that they might reopen.)
I think so. Until we develop herd immunity or vaccine if it comes sooner than herd immunity. At the rate it is spreading, herd immunity may come much sooner. That’s what Netherland is doing to develop herd immunity. The experts are saying tho they don’t know if getting it once will necessarily immunize. It is that tricky situation and China kept it under wrap so long and exposed the world to the danger.
Both are trying to play up nationalist and racist sentiment to gain increased domestic political support. Of course, that requires hostility against the “other”, which makes things worse overall for both countries.
They have sent specialists and equipment to other countries. That’s just a fact.
Thank you!
Don’t be pawns, folks.
Bayer donates 3 million tablets of investigational coronavirus drug Resochin to the US
From CNN’s Jacqueline Howard and Michael Nedelman
As federal agencies continue to investigate possible treatment options for the novel coronavirus, pharmaceutical company Bayer announced on Thursday that it is donating 3 million tablets of its antimalarial drug chloroquine phosphate to the US government.
Sharing details first with CNN, Bayer said in a statement that chloroquine phosphate, sold under the name Resochin, originally has been indicated for the prevention and treatment of malaria, but also appears to have “broad spectrum antiviral properties” and effects on the body’s immune response.
“New data from initial preclinical and evolving clinical research conducted in China, while limited, shows potential for the use of Resochin in treating patients with COVID-19 infection,” the statement said.
“Bayer in recent days has been in talks with the White House, HHS, CDC, and the FDA, offering any assistance we can provide with a focus on donating Resochin to help in the government’s efforts to combat the virus. Currently not approved for use in the United States, Bayer is working with appropriate agencies on an Emergency Use Authorization for the drug’s use in the U.S,” the statement said. “Bayer thanks the Trump administration for moving quickly to enable this donation and will continue to work closely with the administration to support its efforts in the fight against COVID-19.”
Earlier Thursday: President Trump said the antimalarial drug chloroquine and its analog hydroxychloroquine would be available with a prescription to treat the novel coronavirus.
Early evidence from human cells suggests that chloroquine — which is used to treat malaria and autoimmune diseases — may have some activity against the novel coronavirus.
Doctors in China, the US and other countries have used the drug experimentally in COVID-19 patients, but there is not yet sufficient clinical evidence that it’s effective in humans.
Right, and some stupid Americans have spread the virus by lying and hiding it. In the other thread someone posted that their daughter was nearly done giving a person a haircut when the person told the daughter she had tested positive for Covid19 and was getting a haircut before going home to quarantine!! Stupidity and selfishness exist in all countries unfortunately.