- I think a lot of us do not want to rely on the free market for life-saving equipment like that. Yes, in fact, the federal government has the responsibility (via stockpiling, negotiating, foreign policy, etc.) to procure what its people need in a crisis like this. Indeed, materials can even be confiscated/commandeered in times of war or similar.
- I'm afraid I must disagree with your assertion that "specialized multibillion dollar agencies like the CDC had no idea..." - they absolutely did, and unfortunately had their efforts stymied by a series of cuts and policy decisions. Not to mention silencing of warning statements (oh, just as long as certain senators heard enough to go ahead and sell their stock OMG). The CDC and the WHO know a heck of a lot about how to handle a pandemic.
- I don't like the strawman angle of "any seller who remains morally troubled...can of course donate the windfall". We all, as citizens, have the right to prevent others from price gouging and taking advantage of people who are literally dying before our collective faces. And in the case of doctors who don't have what they need, it could be you or yours who suffers next because they can't care for you.
" to what they believe is appropriate in terms of social distancing. "
To what THEY believe?? You mean ME? Scientists , Governors, and Doctors are the ones telling us to practice social distance !! They are not saying this because they have nothing else to do!
They are saying it in order to save lives, which obviously you don’t care about.
unbelievable…
And BTW, which I’m sure is of no interest to you, I am one of those at real risk of catching this disease because I am severely immune compromised.
So yeah, I do care about those who would blithely act as if nothing is wrong, and endanger my health and the health of those like me because they think life should go on, because people wont change because its human nature…
^^ Guys, as another wise poster pointed out to me, the “ignore” option is your friend. (And may also keep this thread from being shut down).
Another one, Sen Inhofe dumped $500k worth of stock the Monday after the Jan 24 briefing on coronavirus.
Doctor says he’s 3-4 weeks from developing treatment to “neutralize” novel Coronavirus.
By Victor Garcia
9PM
“Distributed Bio co-founder and CEO Dr. Jacob Glanville revealed on “The Story with Martha MacCallum” Thursday that his company’s laboratory is three to four weeks away from engineering a therapeutic antibody to combat the coronavirus.
What my company is doing is adapting antibodies to recognize and neutralize the novel coronavirus. So this would … [be] sort of skipping what a vaccine does," Glanville said. “Instead of giving you a vaccine and waiting for it to produce an immune response, we just give you those antibodies right away. And so within about 20 minutes, that patient has the ability to neutralize the virus.”
Glanville told MacCallum that once his colleagues are done engineering the antibodies they will send it to the U.S. military before eventually conducting a human study this summer. The completed drug is going to go to the USAMRIID [United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases]. So that’s the U.S. military and they’re gonna be testing it for its ability to neutralize the virus.”
—-Who knows if this will work. But interestingly they are taking promising antibodies from the SARS research in 2002 and bio engineering it with the latest tech and seem to be on to something. I think it is fascinating and awesome to see the power of research kicking in to help. Glad they all received such great educations.
^^^this is not new and done with prior medical issues and the most Likeky to help. Combo this with the antimarial and that should be more effective. Add in Zithromax that has been shown to help. That should give a good effect. You will see some combination of these
It’s amazing what emotions life and death decisions can evoke in people, no?
There will always be some who get their jollies with it too.
CHINA - 39 new cases (all imported) totaling 80,967 and 3 new deaths totaling 3,248.
71,150 people have been discharged.
ITALY - 5,322 new cases totaling 41,035 and 427 new deaths totaling 3,405.
Italy’s death toll surpasses China’s, becoming the country with the highest number of coronavirus deaths in the world. Italian army trucks form a long line in the center of Bergamo to transport the coffins from the Bergamo cemetery to cremation sites in other regions, as morgues can’t cope with more coronavirus deaths.
IRAN - 1,046 new cases totaling 18,407 and 149 new deaths totaling 1,284.
SPAIN - 3,308 new cases totaling 18,077 and 193 new deaths totaling 831.
GERMANY - 2,993 new cases totaling 15,320 and 16 new deaths totaling 44.
**USA - 5,040 new cases totaling 14,299 and 68 new deaths totaling 218.
FRANCE - 1,861 new cases totaling 10,995 and 108 new deaths totaling 372.
S. KOREA - 239 new cases totaling 8,652 and 10 new deaths totaling 94.
*SWITZERLAND - 1,107 new cases totaling 4,222 and 10 new deaths totaling 43.
UK - 643 new cases totaling 3,269 and 40 new deaths totaling 144.
NETHERLANDS - 409 new cases totaling 2,460 and 18 new deaths totaling 76.
AUSTRIA - 533 new cases totaling 1,646 and 2 new deaths totaling 6.
BELGIUM - 309 new cases totaling 1,795 and 7 new deaths totaling 21.
MALAYSIA - 110 new cases totaling 900.
CANADA - 146 new cases totaling 873 and 3 new deaths totaling 12.
PORTUGAL - 144 new cases totaling 786 and 2 new deaths totaling 4.
AUSTRALIA - 160 new cases totaling 756 and 1 new death totaling 7.
CZECH REPUBLIC - 172 new cases totaling 694.
ISRAEL - 244 new cases totaling 677.
BRAZIL - 118 new cases totaling 647 and 3 new deaths totaling 7.
IRELAND - 191 new cases totaling 557. 1 new death totaling 3.
PAKISTAN - 147 new cases totaling 454.
TURKEY - 168 new cases totaling 1359 and 2 new death totaling 4.
POLAND - 68 new cases totaling 355.
SINGAPORE - 32 new cases totaling 345.
*CHILE - 104 new cases totaling 342.
*LUXEMBOURG - 132 new cases totaling 335 and 2 new deaths totaling 4.
ICELAND - 90 new cases totaling 330.
INDONESIA - 81 new cases totaling 308 and 6 new deaths totaling 25.
SAUDI ARABIA - 36 new cases totaling 274.
THAILAND - 60 new cases totaling 272.
*ECUADOR - 92 new cases totaling 260.
EGYPT - 46 new cases totaling 256 and 1 new death totaling 7.
*PERU - 89 new cases totaling 234. 1st death.
RUSSIA - 52 new cases totaling 199. 1st death.
*MEXICO - 71 new cases totaling 164 and 1st death.
SOUTH AFRICA - 34 new cases totaling 116.
UAE - 27 new cases totaling 140.
ANDORRA - 21 new cases totaling 74.
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA - 25 new cases totaling 64, Isle of Man, Nicaragua, Niger,
1st cases confirmed - Chad, El Salvador, Fiji
Jacob Glanville? The “universal flu vaccine” guy? Color me skeptical.
Heard a rumor that the mayor of New Orleans will be dropping the hammer tomorrow on “safe at home” rules. That is already encouraged, bars are closed, restaurants are take-out only, but I think it will be policed more and likely almost all the shops will be closed completely.
P.S. Drive through testing started a few days ago at 2 different hospitals, if you met certain criteria and had a doctor’s order. I like that there’s new program that will start for health care providers and first responders. D1 will likely need that, sigh.
@Knowsstuff Thanks. I hope so. This is all new to many of us. I’m just adding info occasionally for those of of us who don’t know these things. And it was just reported tonight.
Essentially how we’ve been living anyway. A smart proactive move by the governor, but it will be rough for sure.
I’m hearing Dianne Feinstein also sold after the Jan 24 briefing. Good gravy.
The senators all filed federal reporting. These are from those reports. This isn’t some secret undercover bust.
They are either incredibly stupid or perhaps something else.
Ron Johnson has a history of buying and selling large positions. When he ran he sold most all of holdings years ago.
Loeffler looks fishy to me. Citrix purchase more than the sales. Like she knew about all the teleconferencing coming down the pike. Dumb for someone on the job for six months
Sen Feinstein idk.
However this whole sidetrack imho should be another thread.
Friends in Mass National Guard senior cadre tell me they have called up some units.
Also mass is closing all liquor stores tomorrow according to the rumor mill.
Agree.
But is it surprising that politicians who do not see low income people as their voters would design it to reduce the benefit for low income people?
No.
“We have tested now 22,000,” Cuomo said in a press briefing on Thursday. “We tested 7,500 people last night. Why are you seeing the numbers go up? Because you are taking more tests. People see those numbers go up, they get nervous, they panic. ‘Look at how many more people have the virus.’ That’s not how many more people have the virus, you’re just taking more tests so you’re finding more positives. There are thousands and thousands of people who have the virus who we are not testing.”
Woman who flew from US to China for coronavirus test faces criminal charges
Massachusetts resident, surnamed Li, is said to have taken fever-reducing medication before boarding plane and lying to flight attendants
Woman, who is now in hospital, could face jail time or detention with possible forced labour for ‘impeding prevention of infectious diseases’
A woman who flew last week from Massachusetts to Los Angeles – then to Beijing, where she tested positive for coronavirus – is under investigation on allegations of concealing her symptoms and putting fellow travellers at risk of infection.
The woman took fever-reducing medication before boarding a plane and lied to flight attendants, according to Beijing’s disease control centre and an Air China representative, who held a news conference on Monday.
The woman, who was hospitalised and is receiving treatment, is under investigation for the crime of “impeding prevention of infectious diseases”. According to Chinese law, she could face up to three years of imprisonment or detention with possible forced labour, or up to seven years of prison if there are “serious consequences”.
As the pandemic worsens around the world but slows in China, authorities in Beijing are tightening controls. All passengers arriving in Beijing from abroad, including Chinese nationals, are required to quarantine in government centres for 14 days.
Three passengers test positive on cruise ship in Sydney
Three passengers on board the Ruby Princess cruise ship in Sydney have tested positive for Covid-19, the health minister of New South Wales says.
The tests, done on board, were originally for the flu, but were tested for Covid-19. Of the 13 tested, three tested positive. NSW authorities are now worried the nearly 2700 people who were also on that cruise, may not know Covid-19 was present on the ship.
They want all passengers on the Ruby Princess to go into self-isolation. (Guardian)
Three COVID-19 patients aboard Ruby Princess
Three passengers aboard a cruise ship that docked in Sydney yesterday have tested positive for COVID-19.
The Ruby Princess, which has some 1100 crew members and 2700 passengers, stopped in Sydney after a “relatively short cruise” to New Zealand.
Thirteen patients exhibiting flu-like symptoms were swabbed, and three - two passengers and a crew member - tested positive for COVID-19. A fourth person has been identified as a possible case.
“I can’t stress enough that what all of these passengers that were asked to self-isolate, but this additional findings of COVID-19 on the ship, amongst these testings of swabs, means that there is a heightened need for awareness among people on the ship about their illness,” said NSW chief medical officer, Kerry Chant.
The crew member with COVID-19 is still aboard the ship, which NSW health minister Bard Hazzard said was “somewhere between Sydney and Wollongong.”
Dr Chant said the absence of passengers onboard meant that it was easier to isolate the person from the rest of the crew, and that the ship had ICU facilities onboard. (AFR)