Coronavirus in the US

@romanigypsyeyes there are clips of it on twitter, but I can’t link there. It’s awful and said in a way that’s meant to make older people feel guilty for not wanting to die.

San Antonio and Bexar County announced a new, stay at home rule effective tomorrow.

So we look to mayors and governors.

I find it exquisitely ironic that the same people jumping up and down about “death panels” with regard to universal healthcare, now think it’s a great idea to have the elderly sacrifice themselves for the stock market.

I’m not a grandparent…but I am grand parent age…and I find that comment disgusting, callous, and insensitive.

The rest of the states need to step up and shutter non-essential things.

I found the quote and I just cannot process it:

(The Guardian)

My personal commentary: I can’t believe I have to say this, but I’m not willing to sacrifice my parents and grandparents to preserve a country that would willingly sacrifice my parents and grandparents in the name of “the economy.”

"Well, the Lt. Gov of Texas was just on tv saying that he thinks American grandparents would be willing to sacrifice themselves to save the economy, so I guess that’s solved! "
Another all seeing- all knowing moron acting like he is God.

"I find it exquisitely ironic that the same people jumping up and down about “death panels” with regard to universal healthcare, now think it’s a great idea to have the elderly sacrifice themselves for the stock market. "

I second the motion.

This article was shared on one of the other COVID-19 related threads. I’m sharing it here, too. Thank you to @anomander. The article is about an epidemic of cases in one town in Connecticut that all arose from one social gathering.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/us/coronavirus-westport-connecticut-party-zero.html

Wow, the cheap, sweeping political generalizations just don’t stop, here. ?

No surprises here: that the UN has such a position, that it’s filled by a UCLA law professor, or that his/her gripe was a “calculated use” of the terms “racism and xenophopia” to get in front of the press.

Suspect the people who don’t particularly enjoy being told they can only use the words that have been approved are going to settle on something like ‘the Wuhan virus’ or ‘Wuhan flu’.

Foresee a time when we won’t even be able to talk to each other… too much language drift.

I am speechless too, but give him a week or two and see what he says then. There will be many, many more people by then who will think that staying at home is a very good idea.

Story in Uruguay about a socialite at a wedding contaminating at least 44 people.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/03/society-wedding-uruguay-covid-19-outbreak

Perhaps it struck a chord as the president actually started singing a different tune today. We’ll see if it lasts.

As far as settling on Wuhan virus or Chinese virus, some people have settled on that already. Hence, the WHO’s statement, right? It’s in reaction to those labels, not a cause for using those labels. I find the logic here backwards.

I predict the opposite, but we’ll see who is correct in a fortnight. (Hint: Folks in NYC will never “stay home”.)

fwiw: FIL, age 87, and his SO, age 85, refuse to stay home now, despite the kids begging them to do so. (But not in a total lockdown state.) Perhaps the Gov maybe expressing what some elderly believe/feel.

Didn’t see it but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t posted today.

Worldometer shows that Italy has had two consecutive days of a drop in both new cases and deaths.

Drop in new cases may indicate the distancing measures they finally arrived at are beginning to work. The drop in new deaths might mean several things, including that more common use of either Remdisivir or the anti-malarials, are beginning to show up.

Might not mean any of those things, on the other hand.

Requires a little nuanced thinking but:

More people’s livelihoods and and well-being are tied to the stock market (which is dependent on the health of the US economy), than dependent on transfer payments from the US government.

Well in Texas most of the major cities are Staying Home by Order. Governor Abbott refused to close the whole state and left it up to the Cities. So far, I believe Dallas and San Antonio are under Stay Home orders. Austin will be tomorrow. So far Houston is not, yet.

Texas Lt Governor Dan Patrick said today:
““No one reached out to me and said, as a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance for your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren? And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in,” Patrick said on Fox News host Tucker Carlson’s show.”

We are special here in Texas.

@bluebayou my 90-ish year old grandma is also being a PITA about social distancing but that’s because she figures she’s going to die soon anyway so what’s the difference?

The Lt Gov wants these people to sacrifice themselves to maybe keep the economy running. That’s, imo, a big difference.

There are other ways of saving the economy that don’t involve sacrificing grandparents.

Growing increasingly tired of all the “NYC won’t stay home”. Their 10 day outlook is highs in the 50’s; lows in the 40’s. They aren’t going to swelter. They aren’t any more special than the rest of us.

What’s with people on the coasts thinking they are immune /sarcasm/ from stay at home orders? Ok, maybe generalization, but the majority of the national news/cc posts are about California, NY, and FL not staying home. I’m seeing most people in my area (Podunk fly-over) taking this seriously.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/inslee-to-hold-televised-address-monday-evening-to-announce-enhanced-strategies-on-covid-19/ has a link to the list of essential workers (which is on a disallowed website that causes posts to get blackholed instead of merely getting the links *ed out). The categories of essential workers include those doing research and development for COVID-19 response and manufacturers of various medical supplies.

The WHO’s statement is a reaction to the label, that we agree on. Doubt we agree as to where logic leads us.

People, left to their own devices, tend to do what they’ve always done: name a plague for where it was first identified. (The the Spanish flu was misnamed according to this protocol might be interesting but irrelevant.)

It’s understandable, considering what they let out, that the CCP would rather it named anything other than something that ties it back to China, but…

… I don’t really care. They don’t get to pick and choose what it ends up being known by, and neither does the WHO.