Coronavirus in the US

Keep in mind that at this time of the year, typically 150-250 people die in the United States every day from pneumonia/flu and an additional 100 or so from lung ailments like emphysema and COPD. (Of course lung cancer also kills many every day.)

If anything, I would imagine that more deaths from other ailments are being attributed to COVID-19 rather than the other way around. Until very recently, tests were in short supply, and many hospitals would only test if a positive COVID result would make a difference for treatment.

The 4/10 due date is CA state law. The legislature is out on ‘spring break’ until after that date, so at best they could always retroactively change the date. But I have seen/read nothing that indicates that they would do so. So pay on time to be safe.

I’m trying to see what you’re seeing. If you hover over today 3/27, it shows for MA that 404 ICU beds are needed and 277 ICU beds exist. But I also see that a range is given for the 404 - is that what you mean? (128 - 823).

What I would love to see is the ranges removed and the real numbers put in for dates that are already past.

I’m hopeful that MA is making some progress because on the actnow site and also the worldmeters sites, it does seem that some flattening has occurred.

There is zero chance that teh Prez will relax the orders for NYS. Indeed, he even specified that NY, CA and WA were likely not to be included in any relaxation.

Let’s not derail the thread. Homlessness is much much more than just financial. (Mental health, chronic drug use, etc.)

@fretfulmother, I apologize- you’re right. I hit another state by mistake!

The doctors I’ve spoken to in MA are also highly concerned about the lack of protective gear. I was speaking with someone yesterday who has been pulled off her research to deal with COVID patients. She says they’re only getting one mask a day (as opposed to the usual, one mask per patient) and that the mask can only be swapped for a new one if it is judged by an outside person to be visibly wet or soiled.

What I suspect is that, although everyone thought that Westchester was the epicenter a couple of weeks ago (which seem like months ago now), it was actually just as bad or worse in NYC, only nobody knew it due to lack of testing. I was just surprised that there haven’t been more deaths in Westchester to date. It’s my fear and dread that this is going to change dramatically. I think OneMoreToGo2021 is correct in saying:

“we have little understanding yet of this virus, its prevalence, its fatality rate, and its spread.”

I’m sewing as fast as I can! :frowning:

Has anyone seen a number on how many masks per day are needed nationally? I’m wondering how far the 35 million that were identified as being at a distributor yesterday will last.

If you want to hear a real inspirational speech while not hiding the ugly truth, go to Cuomo’s twitter and listen to today’s briefing and Cuomo’s thanks to the Army Corps for building hospital at the Javits Center.

starts around 28 minutes in

Words of a real leader. NYS is lucky to have Cuomo.

I honestly do not know why this has to be so hard. A lot of hard work (and mental) has been done. Schools have sent everyone home already which in itself was incredible. Everyone should stay home for a month and this will go away by the end of April. The longer we prolong it, the longer the overall pain. As long as people are out, this virus will linger. If States such as Idaho or Arkansas are showing very little signs of the virus, it will be a matter of time. We need to get this under control everywhere, for anyone can feel safe. The leaders need to be upfront about this. They are too concerned about elections and the economy. We are already in a recession and again, do we do it at the expense of a few months (probably a little longer) or a year.

Vermont will close schools for the remainder of the year

Vermont Gov. Phil Scott said in a news conference today that he has closed in-person instruction for the remainder of the school year, but is asking schools to continue virtual learning.

He said he fully understand this is hard and the impact it will have on families, but he believes it is important to keep people safe.

Apple releases website and app for coronavirus screening
From CNN’s Brian Fung

Apple on Friday released a website and an iOS app that allows users to screen themselves for coronavirus symptoms, marking another response to the pandemic by a major tech platform.

Both tools were developed in partnership with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as well as the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force and the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Apple said in a statement to CNN. The app and website include a questionnaire and information about the novel coronavirus.

The website is https://www.apple.com/covid19.

The app can be downloaded here: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1504132184

Apple said it will not collect or store users’ answers to the questionnaire, though it will collect anonymous information about usage of the tools.

World Health Organization will ship equipment to 60 more countries

From CNN Health’s Jacqueline Howard

As the world faces a global shortage of medical equipment, the World Health Organization is planning to ship personal protective equipment to doctors in 60 more countries, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said during a media briefing in Geneva today.

“The chronic global shortage of personal protective equipment is now one of the most urgent threats to our collective ability to save lives,” Tedros said Friday.
“WHO has shipped almost 2 million individual items of protective gear to 74 countries that need it most and we’re preparing to send a similar amount to a further 60 countries, but much more is needed,” Tedros said. “The problem can only be solved with international cooperation and solidarity.”

Illinois health officials say they are in “desperate need” of protective medical equipment

Illinois has a “desperate need” for personal protective equipment, the state’s Department of Public Health tweeted Friday.

IDPH is asking for anyone who can donate gloves, masks, and gowns to protect health care workers to reach out to the state to arrange for a donation.

IDPH
@IDPH
There is a desperate need for PPE (personal protective equipment). This includes:
Gloves?
Masks?
Gowns?
?We need these to protect our health care workers.?If your organization has these supplies to donate, please email PPE.donations@illinois.gov

More on this: Gov. J.B. Pritzker said during a news conference Thursday that Illinois is competing with other states, the federal government and other countries in the marketplace to obtain more PPE.

Pritzker called on President Trump to enforce the Defense Protection Act executive order to make it easier for states to produce and purchase more PPE.

CNN

Looks like Didier Raoult, the lead author on the hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin study that people have been hyping, is a Wakefield-esque charlatan. In previous articles, he and his group have falsified data, sinking so low as to use photoshop to fake results.

The study in question is very suspicious. Six people in the treatment group were thrown out of the results, three of them for getting worse. One of the people in the treatment group was thrown out of the results for (inconveniently) dying. The study was not blinded. The control group was in another location, not treated by the same care providers. He didn’t report the results he said he’d report when he registered the study.

Other groups have attempted to reproduce his results and have failed to do so.

https://forbetterscience.com/2020/03/26/chloroquine-genius-didier-raoult-to-save-the-world-from-covid-19/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Regarding the Rhode Island Governor’s order to stop NYers at the border:

https://www.newsday.com/news/nation/rhode-island-police-stopping-new-york-cars-aclu-1.43476658

Even allowing for the grave emergency we are in, I think the order goes way beyond what the Constitution permits.

NYS hospitalization rates

Mar 17-19 doubling every 2.5 days
Mar 20-23 doubling every 3 days
Mar 24-26 doubling every 4 days

Keep in mind that ICU doubling rates will be a few days behind the hospitalization rates.

There is some hope

If only it were so simple, but it’s not. The virus will just not go away; it will just continue to circle the globe until someone in the world develops a vaccine. Even if we were able to somehow lockdown the borders, and eliminate all international travel, all it would take is one infected person to sneak thru somehow and become a super spreader.

Even (the now lauded) Governor Cuomo said yesterday that we have to focus on both: public health and the economy.

(Of course, politicians are concerned about the next election, almost by definition.)

House will say GOP congressman doesn’t have the second to request a roll call vote
From CNN’s Manu Raju

The House will say GOP Rep. Thomas Massie does not have a sufficient second to request a roll call vote, according to three sources familiar with the matter.

Members still had to return to the Capitol because they need to establish a quorum to do this. Members are sitting in the upstairs gallery to ensure they have enough for a quorum and to maintain social distancing

Massie needs one-fifth of the members to rise and be counted to get a sufficient second for a roll call. That won’t happen, sources said.

This is highly unusual, sources said, to say a member doesn’t have enough for a second.

What this is about: Massie tweeted that he will seek a recorded vote, meaning that members would be required to show up in person and vote on the historic stimulus bill.

Leadership has hoped to pass the measure by a voice-vote.

[Kentuckians better vote his ass out of office. ]

A temporary mortuary will be built at Birmingham Airport in UK
From CNN’s Sarah Dean in London

Work has started on creating a temporary morgue at Birmingham Airport in central England “in preparation for a predicted rise in the number of fatalities from coronavirus,” the area’s West Midlands police said in a statement on Friday.

The site will initially be able to accommodate 1,500 deaths, but will expand to hold more, and could ultimately hold all deaths across the West Midlands region including those not related to coronavirus, the statement said.

“Birmingham Airport can confirm that it is working with the authorities to provide land and a hangar for a temporary mortuary site at the Elmdon side of Birmingham Airport, to support with the Covid-19 pandemic," a Birmingham Airport spokesperson said.

Authorities say they will do everything they can to accommodate different religious requirements, and are working with faith leaders and religious groups.

“We understand that it is a very difficult time for everyone and we will do all that we can to make sure bereaved families understand what is happening to their loved ones and to release them for funeral as soon as we can," senior Birmingham coroner Louise Hunt said.

France extends coronavirus confinement measures until mid-April
From CNN’s Barbara Wojazer in Paris

The French government has extended measures to confine citizens to their homes during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said Friday.

Speaking during a news conference in Paris, Philippe confirmed that government-enforced restrictions on movement will continue to be in place until April 15.

“After 10 days of confinement, it is clear that we are only at the beginning of the epidemic wave,” the French prime minister told reporters.
“This period may be extended, depending on the health situation,” he added.

Cuomo says his plea for 30,000 more ventilators is based on data and science
CNN

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo appeared to respond to comments from the President that the state may not need as many ventilators as the governor has been asking for this week.

Cuomo didn’t directly call out President Trump, but he said, “everyone is entitled to an opinion” when asked about pushback on his projection that New York needs 30,000 more ventilators.

He added, “I don’t operate on opinion.”

On the 30,000 additional ventilators he believes New York needs, Cuomo said, “that’s what the data and the science said.” He noted that scientists have told him the state may need 140,000 hospital beds and as many as 40,000 ventilators at the apex of the outbreak.

Cuomo said he will “make the decisions based on the data and the science” and “the numbers say you may need 30,000” additional ventilators.

More context: During an interview with Sean Hannity on Thursday, Trump appeared to downplay Cuomo’s request for tens of thousands of more ventilators for his state. “I don’t believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators,” Trump told Hannity, an apparent reference to New York.

GOP Rep. Massie says he will seek a recorded vote in person on the House floor for stimulus bill
From CNN’s Ted Barrett and Manu Raju

Kentucky GOP Rep. Thomas Massie tweeted that he will seek a recorded vote, meaning that members would be required to show up in person and vote on the historic stimulus bill.

Earlier on the House floor, there appeared to be an intense discussion, with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi seated, Massie standing and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy seated behind.

When asked if there will be a roll call vote after Massie’s tweet, McCarthy said, “No, we’ll get the bill done with out that.”

Thomas Massie
:heavy_check_mark:
@RepThomasMassie
(1/11)I swore an oath to uphold the constitution, and I take that oath seriously.

In a few moments I will request a vote on the CARES Act which means members of Congress will vote on it by pushing “yes” or “no” or “present.”

Cuomo: “When someone needs something, there’s no place I’d rather be than New York”
CNN

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo lauded New Yorkers for showing strength, resiliency and love during the coronavirus outbreak.

“New Yorkers never cease to amaze me, how big their heart is. You know, they talk about New Yorkers are tough. Yeah, you know, we’re tough. To live in a place like this, you have to be tough. But as tough as we are is as loving as we are, and is as big as our heart is,” Cuomo said.

“And when someone needs something, there’s no place I’d rather be than New York.” He also called the outpouring of more than 62,000 retired health care volunteers and 10,000 mental health volunteers in the state “beautiful," he added.

Completely agree. What are people reading/hearing that suggests this virus will ever go away? No matter how long we all stay inside, it will be still in circulation.

New York governor: “This is a moment that’s going to change this nation”
CNN

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the coronavirus pandemic will “change this nation.” He told New Yorkers that, one day, they’ll tell stories about the outbreak to their children and grandchildren.

“You are living a moment in history,” he said at a news conference. “This is going to be one of those moments they’re gonna write about, they’re going to talk about for generations. This is a moment that’s going to change this nation.”

He continued:

“This is a moment that forges character, forges people, changes people. Make them stronger, make them weaker but this is a moment that will change character, and ten years from now you’ll be talking about today, to your children or your grandchildren, and you will shed a tear because you will remember the lives lost, and you’ll remember the faces and you’ll remember the names and you’ll remember how hard we worked, and that we still lost loved ones.”
“But you will also be proud,” he added. “You’ll be proud of what you did. You’ll be proud that you showed up. You showed up when other people played it safe, you had the courage to show up.”

New York governor says it’s “good news” the rate of hospitalizations is slowing
CNN

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said hospitalizations from the coronavirus are now doubling every four days. However, he noted that this is a decrease in the rate of hospitalization from earlier this week, when it was doubling every two or three days.

Cuomo said this was “good news” that the rate of hospitalizations is slowing. But he reiterated that rate of new cases of coronavirus is still going up in the state.

“We want to see the rate slowing, and then we want to see the number of actual cases coming down or flattening,” Cuomo said.

At least 519 people have died from coronavirus across New York state, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said.

That’s up from 385 reported deaths.

“That is going to continue to go up, and that is the worst news that I could possibly tell the people of the state of New York,” Cuomo said.