Coronavirus in the US

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As is Miami.

And given how many tourists from NY and all over the world Florida has in February and March you would understand that it’s also a reasonable guess that Florida has a lot of cases, too. But since Florida has been able to test only 1/6 the rate of its population as NY has, we don’t have enough data to know if the NY outbreak spread here or not.

Test, test, test, test, test. Outside NY. Maybe starting with areas NYers travel to in large numbers if we believe NY is so widely infected.

10802

Ugh. The second person in our county to die presented as a heart attack as well, before being diagnosed. He died almost immediately upon arriving at the hospital.

Although the article is scary (to me) posting this sort of information is what makes this thread so incredibly valuable.

In real life I have a definite political leaning; however I implore all of you (ALL of you, on either side) to please consider and then reconsider before you post anything that is merely a political opinion. Facts, science and kindness and compassion are what we need most of now.

*** I was responding to post #10820, Menloparkmom’s about the cardiac symptoms, not to the posts between it and mine (I don’t want anyone to think I was responding to some of those, some of which were quite political :slight_smile: )

10803

@MarylandJOE, I aplogize for my attitude. I’m not normally so cranky. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings.

10804

The virus can cause cardiomyopathy which can cause arrhythmia, there is some debate if coronaviruses cause viral myocarditis ( acute infection of the heart muscle). I guess it is possible, but these are zebras, not horses. In a pandemic you can see unusual manifestations of a viral infection.
The problem in the US is that it is difficult to get autopsies done ( they are expensive, there are legal limitations, etc ). And, unfortunately , the autopsy is the ultimate data.

10805

I don’t know who first posted that the Chinese were to blame for allowing travel for the Chinese New Year… but a quick google search will show that in fact between 1/24 and 1/31 China actually CANCELLED all large scale Chinese (Lunar) New Year celebrations. At that time, there were only 26 deaths and 830 infections (per the CNN article). In fact, they acted very quickly on less information than the US has had… we have had 2 months of watching China, Iran, Italy, etc…

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/24/china/virus-lunar-new-year-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

It is human nature to play the blame game, but the time for that is way in the future, not now.

NOW is the time to put out the blazing fires which are popping up… starting with the conflagration in NYC/NYS, lest it spreads.

10806

Apology accepted. No feelings were hurt. The Q instead of C was an honest mistake. For some reason in my mind it just seemed to make sense.

10807

Vaping Could Compound Health Risks Tied to Virus, FDA Says

Vaping may leave users with underlying health conditions at higher risk of serious complications if they contract the respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus, the Food and Drug Administration said.

“People with underlying health issues, such as heart or lung problems, may have increased risk for serious complications from Covid-19,” Michael Felberbaum, an FDA spokesman, said in an email Friday in response to questions from Bloomberg. “This includes people who smoke and/or vape tobacco or nicotine-containing products.”

“E-cigarettes can damage lung cells,” Felberbaum said.

Some health experts have speculated that vaping is causing younger patients in the U.S. to be hospitalized with Covid-19 at a higher rate than anticipated. Felberbaum declined to comment on whether the FDA was investigating a possible connection.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-27/vaping-could-increase-health-risks-tied-to-covid-19-fda-says?srnd=premium

this is pure common sense- inhaling anything foreign into your lungs increases the likelihood of doing damage.

10808

Disclaimer: We own a business in Miami as does my son who lives in Miami. Both in the tourist industry. I left Miami in early March.

@milee30 - The majority of partiers on Miami Beach were not coming from NYC. They were coming from all over the country as well as other parts of Florida. And the Governor let them come.

Snowbirds are not the problem. They’re in Miami by early January and don’t leave until the spring. They’re not flocking to Miami in March.

Miami and NYC are in no way analogous. The population of Miami is less than half a million. All of Miami-Dade County has less than a third the population of NYC alone. It takes less time to drive from Ft. Lauderdale to Miami than from Brooklyn to the Bronx. Miami has nowhere near the density of NYC.

Thank God the Mayor of Miami had the sense to put a hard stop to activity in Miami. This will seriously damage our and our son’s businesses. It will also save lives.

Of course we need more testing all over the country. We also need more masks, more protective gear and more ventilators. My daughter works in health care (in neither Miami nor NYC) and she doesn’t have the option to stay home.

If I sound frustrated it’s because I am.

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Florida needs to stop messing around and the governor needs to issue a stay-at-home order. Florida citizens are being failed by their cowardly leadership. Indeed, Florida is a travel hub and a fully globalized economy. If the governor of Florida is a serious person, he will do what the governors in other populous states have done. It’s not the fault of Andrew Cuomo that Ron DeSantis won’t make the tough call.

And I don’t even like Cuomo!

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Spring Breakers… here’s the cell phones that were on one beach in Ft. Lauderdale for Spring Break and where they returned.

Tectonix GEO @TectonixGEO

Want to see the true potential impact of ignoring social distancing? Through a partnership with @xmodesocial, we analyzed secondary locations of anonymized mobile devices that were active at a single Ft. Lauderdale beach during spring break. This is where they went across the US:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/alarming-cell-phone-map-shows-how-spring-breakers-could-have-spread-coronavirus/

Video is embedded(if I can post this link)

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NYS Coronavirus update:

[Notice points #3 and #5. Those could help to people who are facing financial and health insurance hardship]

Here’s what you need to know tonight:

  1. The first 1,000-bed temporary hospital is now complete at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in Manhattan. The facility will fully open on Monday. I congratulate FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers, the National Guard and the staff at Javits for their speedy work. They built an entire hospital in a week — an incredible achievement.
  2. Schools statewide will remain closed until at least April 15th. We will reassess whether to continue closures at that time. School districts will be required to continue child care, meal and distance learning programs.
  3. New Yorkers without health insurance can apply for a health plan through NY State of Health. If you recently lost employer coverage, you must apply within 60 days of losing that coverage. Because of loss of income, New Yorkers may also be eligible for Medicaid, the Essential Plan or Child Health Plus.
  4. The State and Army Corps of Engineers have toured and identified four new sites for temporary hospitals for construction. The sites — the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal, the Aqueduct Racetrack facility in Queens, CUNY Staten Island and the New York Expo Center in the Bronx — would add an additional 4,000 beds to the state's hospital capacity. I'm asking President Trump to approve these sites immediately so construction can begin.
  5. For a 90-day period, New Yorkers experiencing financial hardship due to COVID-19 may defer paying life insurance premiums. Late payments will be payable over a one-year period. Additionally, consumers and small businesses experiencing Coronavirus-related financial hardship may defer paying premiums for property and casualty insurance for a 60-day period. This includes auto, homeowners, renters and other kinds of insurance. (No late fees will be assessed and there will be no negative impact to your credit.)
  6. The USNS Comfort, a U.S. Navy hospital ship, is expected to arrive in New York Harbor on Monday. It is a massive facility with 1,000 beds, 12 operating rooms, a pharmacy and a laboratory. The Comfort's beds will be used for non-Coronavirus patients to free up hospital capacity.

Tonight’s “Deep Breath Moment”: New York catering company Great Performances is helping prepare and deliver 40,000 meals weekly to 8,000 homes of New Yorkers who are no longer able to get meals at their local senior centers. Their kitchen in the South Bronx is working around the clock to prepare meals and we’re so grateful.

Ever Upward,

Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-27/coronavirus-cases-hit-2-largest-us-cities-differently

Compares cases in LA County (10 million) with NYC (8.5 million).

It would be ironic if our love of traveling by ourselves in cars spares us from what NYC is experiencing.

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Interesting article. Thanks for sharing.

I can certainly see where a mass transit system on the scale of New Yorks could certainly exacerbate this crisis. I wonder if perhaps the international nature of New York City also could have added to it’s being more affected. I say that not knowing how it compares to LA in that respect. Population density is certainly a big issue.

It would be interesting to compare New York and it’s current experience to other similar international cities.

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^ Population density & public transit.

I fear for Mexico City.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/

Article that graphs the deaths by county. Really puts a visual on the main problem areas. Talks about the current top problem areas in our country.

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Because CC members are less ignorant and better educated then the average person polled :smile:

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Want to get a look at cases in your county anywhere in the country? Here’s a current, updated list embedded in this article.

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Where did our countries current cases come from? This is just for the cases that they can currently confirm their origin.

New York Times.

CASES CONNECTED TO

Travel overseas 169
Travel within the U.S. 160
Nursing facility in Kirkland, Wash. 129
Cluster connected to a community in New Rochelle, N.Y. 119
Business conference in Boston 109
Travel in Egypt 52
Diamond Princess cruise ship 43
Lambeth House senior living facility in New Orleans 42
Long-term care facility in DuPage County, Ill. 42
Travel in Italy 39
Connected to a church in Greers Ferry, Ark. 37
Connected to the county jail in Chicago 34
Skilled nursing facility in Bellingham, Wash. 32
Family of Caring nursing home; Montclair, N.J. 30
A nursing home in Woodbridge, N.J. 29
Rehab and long-term care facility in Morgantown, W.Va. 27
Assisted living facility in Everett, Wash. 22
Grand Princess cruise in March 21
Grand Princess cruise in February 21
Nursing facility in Uniondale, N.Y. 18
Nursing facility in Stanwood, Wash. 18
Travel in China 15
Veterans Home in Lebanon, Ore. 14
Nursing facility in Troy, Ohio 12
Assisted living facility in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. 7
Tied to Joint Base Elmendorf–Richardson in Alaska 7
Senior living facility in Colorado Springs 6
Psychiatric hospital in Westland, Mich. 5
Luling Living senior care center in Luling, La. 4
Connected to Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. 4
Vista Shores assisted living community in New Orleans 4
Aboard the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt in Guam 4
Long-term care facility in Grafton, Wis. 3
Federal prison in Atlanta, Ga. 3
Hospital in Vacaville, Calif. 3
Nursing home in Donaldsonville, La. 2
Chateau De Notre Dame nursing home in New Orleans 2
Retirement community in Baton Rouge, La. 2
Travel in Iran 2
Good Samaritan nursing home in New Orleans 2
Chateau St. James nursing home in Lutcher, La. 2
Connected to Episcopal church in Washington, D.C. 2
Travel in South Korea 2

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Thanks, @MarylandJOE . Is the New York Times article from today?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/covid-end-of-life.html I just read the book by this physician and writer. I highly recommend the article and the book.

“Americans are not good at talking about death. But we need to be prepared for when, not if, illness will strike. The coronavirus is accelerating this need.”