Coronavirus in the US

“A buyer” bought some $3-400 million worth of good from an unauthorized company? It was the Chinese government who sold it and later admitted that the goods are from an uncertified company.

Ive never been to NY and don’t know too many NYers but the amount of anti - NY vitriol on this thread is beyond disturbing.

People are dying and to blame NYers for spreading the virus, especially if you’re from a state where the gov is basically refusing to do nothing, is callous and unhelpful imo.

^Let the people of New York judge how Gov. Cuomo is doing with respect to this pandemic. How the federal government does affect all Americans.

I don’t know if this has been posted, but I found it helpful in processing feelings that are bubbling up.

That discomfort you are feeling is grief.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hbr.org/amp/2020/03/that-discomfort-youre-feeling-is-grief

The loss of normalcy; the fear of economic toll; the loss of connection. This is hitting us and we’re grieving. Collectively. We are not used to this kind of collective grief in the air.

Anticipatory grief is that feeling we get about what the future holds when we’re uncertain.

Anticipatory grief is also more broadly imagined futures. There is a storm coming. There’s something bad out there. With a virus, this kind of grief is so confusing for people. Our primitive mind knows something bad is happening, but you can’t see it. This breaks our sense of safety. We’re feeling that loss of safety.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-launches-investigation-into-bioeasy-maker-of-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-sold-to-spain

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-old-lesson-in-chinas-sale-of-junk-coronavirus-kits-to-spain

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/coronavirus-test-kits-withdrawn-spain-poor-accuracy-rate

https://www.politico.eu/article/spanish-government-under-fire-after-defective-testing-kits-fiasco/

https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-03-27/unreliability-of-new-tests-delays-effort-to-slow-coronavirus-spread-in-spain.html

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3077239/chinese-firm-sent-unreliable-covid-19-rapid-test-kits-spain

You can’t get off that easy. What NY is doing or undoing is affecting all Americans at the moment unfortunately. In two ways; one needing all the resources drying up test kits that could have been distributed far and wide. They are all going to NY and Cuomo is still screaming, not enough, we are all gonna die. Why couldn’t he have been as urgent a few weeks ago and take preventive measures? As WA and CA were doing? It looks to me he is quick and urgent when making others do the work and not when he is the one who has to do the work. The other is with Cuomo being in the news all the time how bad it is is panicking all Americans. If Inslee is in the news as much as Cuomo is, we may not be panicking so much. WA is getting better. They look to have it under control. That could show a path to where we go. Instead, we are getting absolute nightmare future from NY every single day. Drama Queen

Governor Cuomo suggest some ways we can open the economy back up.

Letting the young go back to work.

Letting those that have recovered go back to work.

Once antibody testing is readily available, letting those that have been exposed go back to work.

Still quarantining our most vulnerable.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/cuomo-admits-that-quarantine-may-have-backfired-in-some-cases/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons

Situations in NY and WA are totally different. WA is much less densely populated and much easier to control the spread. NY has to sound the alarm because its density, its widely used public transportation systems, as well as its younger population who tend to pay less attention to public health issues.

Lame excuse. Seattle is not as dense but it is hardly rural. They are probably just as young. Besides, they were dealing with it first learning as they go. Cuomo was watching or so I hope. Wouldn’t you think he should have been afraid it is coming to NY with its international constituents and when it comes it will be bad with its dense population? What boggles my mind is they weren’t closing down while their cases were skyrocketing. Let me repeat. My state closed down much earlier than NY. We had much less reason to worry than NY.

This is really helpful. Thank you for posting this.

I think this is a particularly difficult part of the pandemic. I was in NYC during 9/11. It was horrible and devastating, but it all happened very quickly. There was a clear beginning and clear end.

So you want NY to seal its borders, even before the federal government does? In any event, Seattle, as well as Northern CA were first affected because of their high-tech industries with higher mobility of their workers. Those affected were also younger (until some nursing homes were infected). They were easier to control because infected young people tend to recover more easily and quickly, and the infected older people in nursing homes tend to have higher mortality rate, unfortunately. Virus transmission stops in either case, whether the infected beat the virus (i.e. recovers) or succumbs to the illness (i.e. dies). There is no doubt transmissions were much more rampant in NYC and surrounding areas than anywhere else in the country before testing became more widely available.

Testing STILL isn’t widely available. This has been a major failing of the leadership.

South Korea says three Korean coronavirus test kit makers obtain U.S. FDA pre-approval
From CNN’s Sophie Jeong in Seoul

Three South Korean coronavirus kit manufacturers have obtained pre-approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), South Korea’s foreign ministry said in a press release on Saturday.

“By obtaining this FDA pre-approval, these domestic products can be sold in the US market,” the release said. The ministry did not name the manufacturers in its release.

Earlier this week, South Korean President Moon Jae-in spoke to US President Donald Trump. During the call, Trump asked Moon if South Korea would be able to provide support with medical equipment for the United States, South Korea’s Presidential Office, the Blue House, said in a statement Tuesday.

These Italian care workers decided to self quarantine with their elderly patients
From Valentina Di Donato in Rome, CNN

Thirteen workers in an Italian retirement home have taken an unusual decision and decided to self-quarantine with the 60 elderly people they assist.

The number of coronavirus cases in Italy has reached 86,498, according to a tally by researchers at Johns Hopkins University. That puts the European country ahead of China, where 81,946 infections have been confirmed.

“We decided to self isolate ourselves because the Covid-19 situation here in Italy was getting worse," Ermanno Struzzeri, Vice President of the Onlus foundation San Riccardo Pampuri which runs the senior citizen care service on the outskirts of Milan told CNN.

"None of our guests are positive, thankfully.”

“Our guests are very calm, they realize the situation, they appreciate what we have decided to do,” Struzzeri said.

We all eat our meals together, we are more than just colleagues,” Struzzeri said.
The workers started their quarantine on March 19, but told CNN they don’t know how long it will last.

“Families haven’t been able to come to the home for a while so little has changed for them,” Struzzeri explained.

“We have a great relationship with our guests but in this situation there is more work, our work has become constant, but for them little has changed,” Struzzeri said.

Germany coronavirus cases rise by nearly 15% in 24 hours
From CNN’s Fred Pleitgen and Nadine Schmidt in Berlin

The number of coronavirus cases in Germany rose by nearly 15% in the last 24 hours after 6,294 new cases were reported, according to official numbers released Saturday by the Robert Koch Institute, the country’s infectious disease and control center.

Germany now has a total of 48,582 confirmed coronavirus cases and 325 deaths.

Merkel calls for patience: From her home quarantine, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the current social distancing measures will remain in place for a while longer and appealed to Germans to be patient.

“I want to assure you that I know how difficult the restrictions on personal contacts are, which are currently in place for everyone,” Merkel said in an audio message released on Saturday morning. “Each and everyone is a key piece in the battle against the virus,” Merkel added, acknowledging that a scaling back of the measures is not in sight.

Merkel said the number of infections is doubling about every 5.5 days at the moment, which is an improvement compared to a doubling every two days at the beginning. But that period must be closer to every 10 days if the health care system is not to be overwhelmed.

The Chancellor said she understands anxiety about Germany’s economic situation. “No one can say with certainty how long this difficult time will last. I have to ask you to be patient,” she said.

There is an article in USA Today on how the CDC and the FDA bungled the testing in the early days. When the CDC tests were found not to work properly and when they wanted to be the sole source of testing, private labs and doctors begged to be permitted to do them. It took weeks before FDA allowed hospitals and private labs to get around the 28 pages of regulations and develop their own tests. South Korea allowed private labs to do the tests from the start.

I looked up positive cases in my area (by ZIP code). 1 in 10,000 have tested positive.

Yes, testing is only screening those who have symptoms.

15 states have had disaster declarations approved by Trump
From CNN’s Jason Hoffman

There are now 15 states and two territories with confirmed disaster declarations after Michigan and Massachusetts had theirs approved by President Trump.

The states include: Massachusetts, Michigan, South Carolina, Missouri, Maryland, Illinois, New Jersey, North Carolina, Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Iowa, California, Washington and New York. The two territories are Guam and Puerto Rico.

UK coronavirus response “a national scandal”

Richard Horton, the editor-in-chief of The Lancet medical journal on Saturday slammed the UK government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, saying it had “failed.”

“The UK Government’s Contain–Delay–Mitigate–Research strategy failed. It failed, in part, because ministers didn’t follow WHO’s advice to “test, test, test” every suspected case. They didn’t isolate and quarantine. They didn’t contact trace. These basic principles of public health and infectious disease control were ignored, for reasons that remain opaque,” Horton wrote in an article published to the medical journal on Saturday.

“The UK now has a new plan—Suppress–Shield–Treat–Palliate. But this plan, agreed far too late in the course of the outbreak, has left the NHS wholly unprepared for the surge of severely and critically ill patients that will soon come,” he added.

An increase in cases: British health authorities announced another 181 fatalities on Friday, bringing the death toll to 759. More than 14,500 infections have been recorded, but as the UK is not testing widely, true infection numbers are likely to be much higher.

How is the UK handling the outbreak? The British government, criticized for its less aggressive start in responding to the pandemic, has been attempting new measures to flatten the curve of new Covid-19 infections after a high-profile study found that coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care beds and lead to 250,000 deaths in the UK.

Officials infected: The UK’s response to the coronavirus pandemic was upended on Friday when the Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his top health minister tested positive for the infection, and his chief medical adviser self-isolated after displaying symptoms.

On a lighter note :slight_smile:

https://www.newschain.uk/features/commentator-andrew-cotter-turns-his-skills-hilariously-describe-meal-time-his-pet-dogs-5257

Sports commentator makes up for coronavirus-canceled games by doing a play-by-play of his dogs’ dinner time

On lockdown like much of the UK, Scottish commentator Andrew Cotter is feeling the boredom – especially given there is no sport on at the moment due to the coronavirus pandemic.

However Cotter – whose voice is instantly familiar to British viewers of Wimbledon, the Olympics or international rugby – hasn’t let his skills go to waste. Without a sport to commentate on, he turned to his two dogs, Olive and Mabel.

In South Korea, the number of recovered patients has overtaken those receiving treatment for the first time
From CNN’s Sophie Jeong in Seoul

As of Saturday, more than 4,800 coronavirus patients have been discharged from isolation in South Korea, according to the country’s Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. About 4,500 remain in isolation undergoing treatment.

It marked the first time the number of recovered people has exceeded the number of people being treated since January 20, when coronavirus cases were first confirmed in the country.

“There is still a long way to go, but the 50% recovery rate is a small achievement that all in our society should celebrate together,” said Yoon Tae-ho, director-general for public health policy at the Ministry of Health and Welfare.

Russia to close its borders starting on March 30

Russia will close its borders starting on March 30 in a bid to curb the spread of the coronavirus, a government order published on Saturday said. The measure will come into force at all vehicle, rail and pedestrian checkpoints, and apply to Russia’s maritime borders, the government said. It will not apply to Russian diplomats and the drivers of freight trucks, among others. The country, which has already grounded all international flights, has reported 1,264 coronavirus cases. —Reuters

‘Officers are scared out there’ — Coronavirus slams US police

An increasing number of police departments around the country are watching their ranks get sick as the number of coronavirus cases explodes across the U.S. The growing tally raises questions about how laws can and should be enforced during the pandemic, and about how departments will hold up as the virus spreads among those whose work puts them at increased risk of infection.

“I don’t think it’s too far to say that officers are scared out there,” said Sgt. Manny Ramirez, president of Fort Worth Police Officers Association.

Nearly 690 officers and civilian employees at police departments and sheriff’s offices around the country have tested positive for COVID-19, according to an Associated Press survey this week of over 40 law enforcement agencies, mostly in major cities. The number of those in isolation as they await test results is far higher in many places. —Associated Press

@CTTC wrote:

I’m fine with this, as long as all Arkansas people stay in Arkansas, because…

https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/mar/23/34-tied-arkansas-church-test-positive-coronavirus-/

Living in a state bordering Arkansas, we can’t take a chance with residents of a no lockdown state wandering across the border.

I’m being sarcastic but seriously, all states need some kind of lockdown order. Human congregation is spreading this virus and “screening” certain people at the border does absolutely nothing when the virus is alive and well in your community and spreading around every time someone goes to church, or the gym, or anywhere else.

Folly beach is well named.

When all this is over, it won’t surprise me if the states that are vainly trying to screen outsiders (TX, FL, AR), and the states that are actively prohibiting even local lockdowns (MS, AL, SC) won’t end up being the worst hit due to their misguided policies.

Notice that the CDC is not demanding sole control over developing an antibody test.

The Center for Disease Catastrophe. When this is over, heads should roll and never again should the CDC have this kind of power.

Outbreak hits already struggling US farmers: ‘We’ve stopped saying it can’t get worse’
The coronavirus pandemic has sent U.S. farmers into a panic after it further drove down crop and livestock prices and raised concerns about labor shortages on farms.

Farm trade groups are lobbying the Trump administration to give financial aid for farmers enduring price drops, as well as timely visas for seasonal workers from Mexico who will pick crops on U.S. farms this year.

“We were hoping for something good this year, but this virus has stopped all our markets,” said Iowa farmer Robb Ewoldt. (CNBC)

[ we definitely don’t need issues with food supply right now. ]

India plans to turn some idled trains into isolation wards

India said it was planning to turn some railway coaches into isolation wards for patients with coronavirus, as authorities scramble to prepare the country’s health infrastructure for an expected surge in cases.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi asked the country’s 1.3 billion people this week to stay indoors for three weeks in the world’s biggest lockdown, seeking to curb the spread of the illness.

India’s network of trains, the country’s lifeblood, has been idled. One train coach has been turned into a prototype quarantine facility, state-owned Indian Railways said in a statement on Saturday. Once they get clearance, the plan is for each of India’s railway zones to convert 10 coaches into such wards every week, the company added. Indian Railways has 16 zones, according to its website. —Reuters

NYC nurses plead for protective gear to fight virus outbreak
Nurses battling New York’s coronavirus outbreak made anguished pleas for more protective equipment, saying officials’ claims of adequate supplies are falling short of reality. At a news conference outside city-run Jacobi Hospital, nurses called for more masks and other gear to safeguard themselves against the virus that has so far sickened more than 44,000 people and killed over 500 in New York state, mostly in the city.

At least one health care worker, Mount Sinai West assistant nursing manager Kious Kelly, 36, has died of the virus. Others also have fallen ill around the metropolitan region. Jacobi nurses said managers at the Bronx hospital have been rationing protective equipment, making them unable to change out the high-end particle-filtering masks known as N95s as often as they should.

City officials have insisted there’s enough protective equipment for roughly the next week, though they’re worried for the weeks after. Mayor Bill de Blasio said the city delivered 200,000 N95 masks to hospitals Friday, with 800,000 more to come Saturday, along with loads of less-protective surgical masks and other gear. —Associated Press

@milee30 Show Low, AZ does have a proper 101 bed hospital with an ICU. Lots of summer cabins up there, and one ski resort. The
region’s population is under 100k.